Anonymous
02/07/2023 11:31
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clancy has my sympathy. She is a Labor & Delivery RN now midwife in 5 days a week outpatient treatment for postpartum depression—she was trying mightily to help herself as was her husband. Sounds like crossover to postpartum psychosis—she will be heartbroken at what she did under SEVERE mental illness. My sympathies to her children deceased, her infant, her husband and yes to her. A nightmare.
I have sympathy and she tried to off herself as well. I think Yates killed her kids and didn’t do anything to herself. But..I believe this post partum psychosis is real. She is going to have to live with this forever. The sad thing is I think a lot of this is tied to lack of sleep and so many people judge if a new mom wants help. I remember I got a lot of judgement for having a night nanny. Luckily I have a great husband who basically told me to put myself first and I did. Without sleep and without an opportunity to exercise or meet with a friend then a severe depression and can develop. It seems like her husband tried and maybe things went sideways with all the meds. Seraqual is a really powerful drug and cannot believe she was on that with others. Maybe the best thing in retrospect would have been inpatient treatment. Anyway new parents should really prioritize sleep and well being. The best thing you can do for a new mom is offer to watch the baby’s so they can nap or offer to take their other kids (if they have them) out so less chaos in the house.
And maybe don’t have three kids in less than five years. Even though posters will jump on here to claim that their mom had 8 kids and didn’t kill any of them! Still, 3 kids under five in this day and age is bananas. And she wasn’t even old or facing a biological clock. What is the rush? The third clearly out her over the edge because she was seemingly ok with the first two.
So, forced abortions like in China?
You are intentionally being obtuse to PP's point, which I admit wasn't artfully made. But no, PP likely wasn't advocating for forced abortions. For a woman like Clancy--who is among the luckiest of us by having access to more knowledge, money, family/friends, and institutional support than the majority of new mothers--I think it isn't unfair to wonder why she would have so many children so closely given the difficulties she had adjusting to motherhood.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 11:27
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had 3 kids in 3 years and severe PPD. Sometimes people conceive on birth control.
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Exactly, are you aware of fertile cervical mucous? Do you have any idea at all when you are fertile? Can’t you narrow it down to a few days? Even if I was on birth control and noticed egg white cervical mucous I may think, huh.. maybe we should use a condom.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 11:22
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:I had 3 kids in 3 years and severe PPD. Sometimes people conceive on birth control.
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Anonymous
02/07/2023 11:21
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:I had 3 kids in 3 years and severe PPD. Sometimes people conceive on birth control.
If people aren’t smart enough to figure out that birth control isn’t 100%, and they have a history of PPD and don’t want another pregnancy, then maybe stop having intercourse. It’s simple really.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 11:10
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:I had 3 kids in 3 years and severe PPD. Sometimes people conceive on birth control.
Use condoms, and just because all of your friends are having three kids within 4 years doesn’t make it right for everyone.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 11:02
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
I had 3 kids in 3 years and severe PPD. Sometimes people conceive on birth control.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 10:54
Subject: Re:Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Babies don’t make difficult lives easier and they certainly don’t make relationships better. Think hard before procreating. Are you depressed and anxious without kids? Well, your mental health will certainly deteriorate even further after one baby, let alone two or more.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 10:01
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clancy has my sympathy. She is a Labor & Delivery RN now midwife in 5 days a week outpatient treatment for postpartum depression—she was trying mightily to help herself as was her husband. Sounds like crossover to postpartum psychosis—she will be heartbroken at what she did under SEVERE mental illness. My sympathies to her children deceased, her infant, her husband and yes to her. A nightmare.
I have sympathy and she tried to off herself as well. I think Yates killed her kids and didn’t do anything to herself. But..I believe this post partum psychosis is real. She is going to have to live with this forever. The sad thing is I think a lot of this is tied to lack of sleep and so many people judge if a new mom wants help. I remember I got a lot of judgement for having a night nanny. Luckily I have a great husband who basically told me to put myself first and I did. Without sleep and without an opportunity to exercise or meet with a friend then a severe depression and can develop. It seems like her husband tried and maybe things went sideways with all the meds. Seraqual is a really powerful drug and cannot believe she was on that with others. Maybe the best thing in retrospect would have been inpatient treatment. Anyway new parents should really prioritize sleep and well being. The best thing you can do for a new mom is offer to watch the baby’s so they can nap or offer to take their other kids (if they have them) out so less chaos in the house.
And maybe don’t have three kids in less than five years. Even though posters will jump on here to claim that their mom had 8 kids and didn’t kill any of them! Still, 3 kids under five in this day and age is bananas. And she wasn’t even old or facing a biological clock. What is the rush? The third clearly out her over the edge because she was seemingly ok with the first two.
So, forced abortions like in China?
Again, social media competition, having babies has become a competition. I have a sister in law, Lindsay’s age, who admitted she was struggling with PPD, no surprise there because she was mentally unstable prior to having kids. She’s been on multiple antidepressants since her teenaged years. Her two kids are 15 months apart, and shortly after the second one was born she wanted to try for another! Why? Her mother, my MIL, kept pushing it, saying how nice another baby would be? Keep in mind my MIL was a horrible, neglectful single mother, who never had a stable life, lived on welfare, drank and abused drugs. The third baby hasn’t happened yet as I think her husband would have no parts of that, and rightfully so. She currently has no job, as she couldn’t ever handle the pressures of a full time career, ever, especially after kids, so she contributes nada financially. She has a strong social media presence, as do all her ‘friends’ and most of the friends also have three kids about 1-2 years apart. It’s insane, it’s extremely attention seeking behavior. The poor kids are being used as props. Every time we visit her the kids aren’t dressed, wearing full diapers only, the house is a shi!hole, they have no food except crap snacks, but they have beautiful family portraits taken and hung up on the wall and her social media is full of statements of how lucky she is and how wonderful her kids are and attractive photos of herself. She lays on the sofa all day watching youtube kids with her babies. They barely function every day, she’s lazy, always has been, and now she’s responsible for two other people and wants a third. I just cannot wrap my head around it. She had to give her dog away before she even had kids, because the dog was too much of a burden.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:23
Subject: Re:Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How do you know that? She could just be a narcissist who had kids for attention and to use as social media props without realizing how much work having 3 kids back to back is. When things got too overwhelming, she decided to kill them and blame her meds. What else can explain her murdering her children one by one in the most painful way possible and her halfhearted suicide attempt? She clearly knew she wasn’t going to die and she wouldn’t have suffered even a tenth of the pain her kids did.
How do you know that, either? Ultimately we can guess at what she was feeling and thinking but none of us will know more until the trial.
No one thinks they will die jumping two stories.
This. It’s performative. She’s a coward, just like the many other people who claim they “meant” to commit murder/suicide, but somehow conveniently manage to succeed on the baby killing part and oopsie, didn’t actually manage to kill themselves.
This is deplorable posting and needs to stop.
Noone here knows anything either except the facts her lawyer has fed to the media. And yet here we are, ready to let her walk out and home to her gfm funded “rehab.” Yet when an overworked exhausted parent tragically leaves a kid in a hot car, we bring out the knives.
I don't agree with the PP you're responding to but the comment is far from "deplorable." I think that term more accurately reflects the Lindsay supporters who jumped on the "Army of Love" bandwagon even before any actual facts started trickling out.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:22
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clancy has my sympathy. She is a Labor & Delivery RN now midwife in 5 days a week outpatient treatment for postpartum depression—she was trying mightily to help herself as was her husband. Sounds like crossover to postpartum psychosis—she will be heartbroken at what she did under SEVERE mental illness. My sympathies to her children deceased, her infant, her husband and yes to her. A nightmare.
I have sympathy and she tried to off herself as well. I think Yates killed her kids and didn’t do anything to herself. But..I believe this post partum psychosis is real. She is going to have to live with this forever. The sad thing is I think a lot of this is tied to lack of sleep and so many people judge if a new mom wants help. I remember I got a lot of judgement for having a night nanny. Luckily I have a great husband who basically told me to put myself first and I did. Without sleep and without an opportunity to exercise or meet with a friend then a severe depression and can develop. It seems like her husband tried and maybe things went sideways with all the meds. Seraqual is a really powerful drug and cannot believe she was on that with others. Maybe the best thing in retrospect would have been inpatient treatment. Anyway new parents should really prioritize sleep and well being. The best thing you can do for a new mom is offer to watch the baby’s so they can nap or offer to take their other kids (if they have them) out so less chaos in the house.
And maybe don’t have three kids in less than five years. Even though posters will jump on here to claim that their mom had 8 kids and didn’t kill any of them! Still, 3 kids under five in this day and age is bananas. And she wasn’t even old or facing a biological clock. What is the rush? The third clearly out her over the edge because she was seemingly ok with the first two.
So, forced abortions like in China?
No, just self restraint and personal responsibility. We know how babies are made, and how to prevent it from happening.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:16
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clancy has my sympathy. She is a Labor & Delivery RN now midwife in 5 days a week outpatient treatment for postpartum depression—she was trying mightily to help herself as was her husband. Sounds like crossover to postpartum psychosis—she will be heartbroken at what she did under SEVERE mental illness. My sympathies to her children deceased, her infant, her husband and yes to her. A nightmare.
I have sympathy and she tried to off herself as well. I think Yates killed her kids and didn’t do anything to herself. But..I believe this post partum psychosis is real. She is going to have to live with this forever. The sad thing is I think a lot of this is tied to lack of sleep and so many people judge if a new mom wants help. I remember I got a lot of judgement for having a night nanny. Luckily I have a great husband who basically told me to put myself first and I did. Without sleep and without an opportunity to exercise or meet with a friend then a severe depression and can develop. It seems like her husband tried and maybe things went sideways with all the meds. Seraqual is a really powerful drug and cannot believe she was on that with others. Maybe the best thing in retrospect would have been inpatient treatment. Anyway new parents should really prioritize sleep and well being. The best thing you can do for a new mom is offer to watch the baby’s so they can nap or offer to take their other kids (if they have them) out so less chaos in the house.
And maybe don’t have three kids in less than five years. Even though posters will jump on here to claim that their mom had 8 kids and didn’t kill any of them! Still, 3 kids under five in this day and age is bananas. And she wasn’t even old or facing a biological clock. What is the rush? The third clearly out her over the edge because she was seemingly ok with the first two.
So, forced abortions like in China?
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:13
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clancy has my sympathy. She is a Labor & Delivery RN now midwife in 5 days a week outpatient treatment for postpartum depression—she was trying mightily to help herself as was her husband. Sounds like crossover to postpartum psychosis—she will be heartbroken at what she did under SEVERE mental illness. My sympathies to her children deceased, her infant, her husband and yes to her. A nightmare.
I have sympathy and she tried to off herself as well. I think Yates killed her kids and didn’t do anything to herself. But..I believe this post partum psychosis is real. She is going to have to live with this forever. The sad thing is I think a lot of this is tied to lack of sleep and so many people judge if a new mom wants help. I remember I got a lot of judgement for having a night nanny. Luckily I have a great husband who basically told me to put myself first and I did. Without sleep and without an opportunity to exercise or meet with a friend then a severe depression and can develop. It seems like her husband tried and maybe things went sideways with all the meds. Seraqual is a really powerful drug and cannot believe she was on that with others. Maybe the best thing in retrospect would have been inpatient treatment. Anyway new parents should really prioritize sleep and well being. The best thing you can do for a new mom is offer to watch the baby’s so they can nap or offer to take their other kids (if they have them) out so less chaos in the house.
And maybe don’t have three kids in less than five years. Even though posters will jump on here to claim that their mom had 8 kids and didn’t kill any of them! Still, 3 kids under five in this day and age is bananas. And she wasn’t even old or facing a biological clock. What is the rush? The third clearly out her over the edge because she was seemingly ok with the first two.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:07
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t on a dozen medications. She had been prescribed that amount since October. Not the same thing.
I'm not really sure that this matters. Its a stupid defense anyway and I don't think it will work.
I agree with you there. The fact they aren’t using PPP is striking.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:04
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
One can feel sympathetic to Clancy and believe she is a murderer who deserves the death penalty at the same time.
Anonymous
02/07/2023 09:01
Subject: Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)
Anonymous wrote:She wasn’t on a dozen medications. She had been prescribed that amount since October. Not the same thing.
I'm not really sure that this matters. Its a stupid defense anyway and I don't think it will work.