Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.
You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.
You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.
In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.
The data clearly show the arrests are disproportionate to the population. The data show the disparate arrests are not due to differences in behavior. I get it, you don't care, you are White. Well guess what, that is why our school system sucks, because when you show such callous disregard for one portion of the population, then everyone suffers. We can't have a fair and just society when we openly choose to oppress one group of people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.
You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.
In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.
You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
I wish people understood SRO is part of a jobs program for the otherwise unemployable.
Great, since its a desirable job, why don't you step up and do it. Its easy to criticize others about the job they do when its a job you aren't willing to do.
Geez. Elitist much?? You are truly something else to call someone who is a role model for kids (hopefully yours too since your showing your true colors here) unemployable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
I wish people understood SRO is part of a jobs program for the otherwise unemployable.
Great, since its a desirable job, why don't you step up and do it. Its easy to criticize others about the job they do when its a job you aren't willing to do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
No one disagrees that there aren't more meaningless arrests, but when they're really needed they usually run away.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
I wish people understood SRO is part of a jobs program for the otherwise unemployable.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.
You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?
People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.
- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf
Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.
Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?
Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.
Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need
And that is what we have now and it’s not working.
So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.
Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.