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Post 09/15/2025 13:09     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


No, they haven't.


Omg. Yes they have. Move on.


No, they haven't.

Don't tell us what to do or think, so no, no one is "moving on".
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:09     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.


Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:08     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


No, they haven't.


Omg. Yes they have. Move on.


DP. All I’m seeing is that the governor has alluded to this. Where/when did the FBI confirm?
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:07     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"


Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.


The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.


like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.


This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.


Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.


That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!



When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.


Here’s one. This person’s comments are gross - and they are within their right to free speech to say them. But they need to accept the social and professional consequences of their statements. No decent company is going to condone this sort of speech. It’s violent and full of hate.

https://mol.im/a/15100227


When you say "social consequences" are you referring to the hundreds of death threats she's received? It's wild you are calling for people to accept that as normal. It's not normal. It's hateful and violent. Her comments were crude but not incorrect. As a wise man said recently, the Bible does not call on us to honor evil.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:06     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin


Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.


Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?


Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.


Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:05     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:If Lance and Tyler were this flaming, furry bizarre counterculture couple, they would have left Utah.

+1 This is what I said as soon as Robinson was identified. If he were actually a lefty he would have take his great ACT score and 4.0 GPA and gone anywhere else. For free. Now people are trying to convince us that his one semester at Utah State of all places radicalized him. Come the f*** on.


The shooter went to USU for one semester 3 years ago. He wasn't there long enough to get "indoctrinated" (ie educated and exposed to people of different backgrounds and cultures)


I read that his single semester was online. He spent a few months logging into blackboard, that’s it.


That seems likely given COVID. Lots of kids dropped out then, even ones who would have been successful otherwise. The strong ones got back on track. Many others didn't.


We are seeing the results of the seeds that were planted during Covid. Whatever content people took in when we are all locked in the house has now fruited into a lot of the intense beliefs and online behaviors we see now. We were all chronically online that year, and everyone didn’t come out the same on the other side.

That’s when Tyler and Lance started hacking into domestic and foreign govt agencies probably.


When were they hired by the foreign governments? Because there's literally zero connection between hacking into an agency's computer and being hired by them, usually.

They could have been hired after freshman year.

No they worked for the CIA or were independent. They weren’t assisting foreign governments. God…


Why would the CIA have hired them? That is also crazy talk. They don't seem very stable. Or discreet.

He is a brilliant hacker, he can hack into anything he wants.


But cyber operations is not big at CIA. It’s another agency.

Ok NSA whatever. He could have been an independent contractor.

This is just silly talk. I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, seek help.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:04     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"


Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.


The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.


Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.


People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.


Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.



Please stop doxxing everyone who doesn't act like Charlie Kirk was the second coming. You are explicitly promoting political violence. People are getting death threats. People who had literally nothing to do with Charlie Kirk's death and are not and never have celebrated it.


Democrats create a monster. Now it's escaped the cave.

Now what? I'm not seeing "diversity is our strength" fixing it, so now what?


He was raised by a gun loving, MAGA family. Which major leftists did he admire? Which influenced him? You can't answer because you just concocted fiction.


Np.

His family are all those mormons.

Didn’t anyone see The Book of Mormon at The Kennedy Center ?!?
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:02     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


No, they haven't.


Omg. Yes they have. Move on.


That PP already has it in their mind that this was a right winger murder. Jesus or Obama or Rachel Maddow herself couldn’t convince them otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:02     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Have some compassion.

Compassion is empathy in action.

So the Jesuit’s say.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:01     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"


Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.


The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.


Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.


People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.


Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.



Correct, freedom of speech.

Correct, no one should be killing someone because they don’t like what they said or posted.

Also correct, no one should be cheering an assassination murder.

Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:00     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


No, they haven't.


Omg. Yes they have. Move on.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:00     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"


Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.


The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.


Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.


People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.


Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.



Please stop doxxing everyone who doesn't act like Charlie Kirk was the second coming. You are explicitly promoting political violence. People are getting death threats. People who had literally nothing to do with Charlie Kirk's death and are not and never have celebrated it.


Democrats create a monster. Now it's escaped the cave.

Now what? I'm not seeing "diversity is our strength" fixing it, so now what?


Stop trying to change the subject and stop doxxing people. You are responsible for your behavior. You can't just scream "Democrats" when you get called out for promoting violence.


Who is doxxing people? Me? Where have I doxxed anyone?


Kirk fans/GOP politicians and mouthpieces/MAGA are doxxing people who simply quoted Kirk directly. Stop with your "who me" BS.

If you believe in social and professional consequences for comments about someone's death or political violence, you have a lot of work to do to go catch up with all the MAGA posters out there from the past nine years and demand those consequences. Get to work crusader!
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 13:00     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

He is the only suspect based on what evidence?
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 12:59     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.


It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.


All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.


The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.


No, they haven't.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2025 12:58     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"


Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.


The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.


like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.


This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.


Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.


That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!



When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.


Here’s one. This person’s comments are gross - and they are within their right to free speech to say them. But they need to accept the social and professional consequences of their statements. No decent company is going to condone this sort of speech. It’s violent and full of hate.

https://mol.im/a/15100227


Were you equally upset when POTUS or Kirk made fun of the attack on Paul Pelosi. Did you call for "consequences"?


Yes, that’s disgusting. Anyone celebrating murder or violence of an innocent persons should be ostracized.