Anonymous wrote:It really feels like there is some asshole man on here who probably lives in Virginia who is on here swatting down anyone who wants virtual school or masks or any kind of mitigation to happen at all. Dude you are ridiculous.

That is what you got from the 40 something long page thread?

No.

Not one person here has suggested there shouldn't be a mask mandate. And there is one. And, many many posters have said they are happy with the improved HVAC systems, vaccine mandates, etc.

And, while virtual school might mean some sacrifice for those who want it (i.e., not enrolling in their current charter or OOB), everyone has said those who want to go that route should.

The push back is asking DCPS to require schools to each create their own virtual program that students can opt in and out of as each parent assesses risk. Because it's not possible.

Anonymous wrote:The choice you want takes resources away from other people. Most individual schools have looked at all of the various issues about running a school in a pandemic and decided that what you want is not feasible or warranted.

Parents are not taking this away from you. It's ridiculous to get mad at other parents.

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These arguments are baffling. No one is preventing OP or anyone from keeping their kids home. There’s a virtual option for high risk kids, and homeschooling has always been an option and is less difficult than many people think.

I think this is being driven by a small subset of parents who don’t want to lose spots at charters or OOB schools so are trying to demand a virtual option that accommodates that specific situation. And as a parent of a child who is enrolled OOB, my response is: It’s a pandemic! You can’t expect it to be convenient for you.

But definitely calling people "fools" and "assholes" will help you win people to your perspective.

The choice you want takes resources away from other people. Most individual schools have looked at all of the various issues about running a school in a pandemic and decided that what you want is not feasible or warranted.

Parents are not taking this away from you. It's ridiculous to get mad at other parents.

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Anonymous wrote:It really feels like there is some asshole man on here who probably lives in Virginia who is on here swatting down anyone who wants virtual school or masks or any kind of mitigation to happen at all. Dude you are ridiculous.

Woman, DC resident, two kids in DCPS who are too young for vaccines plus an infant at home. Sorry to burst your bubble, “dude.”

DP, also a mom of a 7 and 9 yo in DCPS who’s so done with the crazy fearmongering. Lady, just because your Twitter feed is a bubble of similarly innumerate people with clinical anxiety disorders does not mean that the majority or even a significant number of DCPS parents actually agree with you.

Honestly you are both assholes.

We are in a pandemic! The newspapers are full of stories of children getting extremely sick with lengthy PICU stays and some are dying. The data is unclear snd public health authorities are giving conflicting advice. I don’t want to take away your child’s in person option. Why are you SO determined to make decisions on behalf of my child? All I want is a choice. I have an adult family member who is immunocompromised, and two kids too young be be vaccinated, and I have kids too young to be vaccinated. I appreciate the AAP is both saying schools should be open safely AND that the risk to kids is so great that they should get vaccinated before all safety trials are in. Which is it? It’s not anxiety or unreasonable to be fearful. We are in a pandemic you utter fool. I have no desire to curtail your choices. Stop curtailing mine.

because a separate virtual option at each school would be incredibly costly, and you can homeschool.

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Anonymous wrote:It really feels like there is some asshole man on here who probably lives in Virginia who is on here swatting down anyone who wants virtual school or masks or any kind of mitigation to happen at all. Dude you are ridiculous.

Woman, DC resident, two kids in DCPS who are too young for vaccines plus an infant at home. Sorry to burst your bubble, “dude.”

DP, also a mom of a 7 and 9 yo in DCPS who’s so done with the crazy fearmongering. Lady, just because your Twitter feed is a bubble of similarly innumerate people with clinical anxiety disorders does not mean that the majority or even a significant number of DCPS parents actually agree with you.

Honestly you are both assholes.

We are in a pandemic! The newspapers are full of stories of children getting extremely sick with lengthy PICU stays and some are dying. The data is unclear snd public health authorities are giving conflicting advice. I don’t want to take away your child’s in person option. Why are you SO determined to make decisions on behalf of my child? All I want is a choice. I have an adult family member who is immunocompromised, and two kids too young be be vaccinated, and I have kids too young to be vaccinated. I appreciate the AAP is both saying schools should be open safely AND that the risk to kids is so great that they should get vaccinated before all safety trials are in. Which is it? It’s not anxiety or unreasonable to be fearful. We are in a pandemic you utter fool. I have no desire to curtail your choices. Stop curtailing mine.

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Anonymous wrote:It really feels like there is some asshole man on here who probably lives in Virginia who is on here swatting down anyone who wants virtual school or masks or any kind of mitigation to happen at all. Dude you are ridiculous.

Woman, DC resident, two kids in DCPS who are too young for vaccines plus an infant at home. Sorry to burst your bubble, “dude.”

DP, also a mom of a 7 and 9 yo in DCPS who’s so done with the crazy fearmongering. Lady, just because your Twitter feed is a bubble of similarly innumerate people with clinical anxiety disorders does not mean that the majority or even a significant number of DCPS parents actually agree with you.

Anonymous wrote:It really feels like there is some asshole man on here who probably lives in Virginia who is on here swatting down anyone who wants virtual school or masks or any kind of mitigation to happen at all. Dude you are ridiculous.

Woman, DC resident, two kids in DCPS who are too young for vaccines plus an infant at home. Sorry to burst your bubble, “dude.”

It really feels like there is some asshole man on here who probably lives in Virginia who is on here swatting down anyone who wants virtual school or masks or any kind of mitigation to happen at all. Dude you are ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:Your conclusion that being more risk averse is "rational" in this situation is where the logic breaks down. Because if demanding a virtual option for your "rational" risk aversion (and your non-medically fragile kid) works, then there should be no requirement for kids to be in a congregate school setting, ever.

Oh yay!! So glad you think the AAP should be a voice to listen to. Here you go!!

“ As the next school year begins, there needs to be a continued focus on keeping students safe, since not all students will have the opportunity or be eligible to be vaccinated before the start of the next school year. Since the beginning of this pandemic, new information has emerged to guide safe in-person learning. Remote learning highlighted inequities in education, was detrimental to the educational attainment of students of all ages, and exacerbated the mental health crisis among children and adolescents. 1,2 Opening schools generally does not significantly increase community transmission, particularly when guidance outlined by the World Health Organization (WHO),3 United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is followed. 4,5 There are still possibilities for transmission of SARS-CoV-2, especially for individuals and families who have chosen not to be vaccinated or are not eligible to be vaccinated. In addition, SARS-CoV-2 variants have emerged that may increase the risk of transmission and result in worsening illness. However, the AAP believes that, at this point in the pandemic, given what we know about low rates of in-school transmission when proper prevention measures are used, together with the availability of effective vaccines for those age 12 years and up, that the benefits of in-person school outweigh the risks in almost all circumstances....

It is critical to reflect on the differential impact the COVID-19 pandemic and the associated school closures have had on different racial and ethnic groups and populations facing inequities. Disparities in school funding, quality of school facilities, educational staffing, and resources for enriching curricula among schools have been exacerbated by the pandemic. Families rely on schools to provide a safe, stimulating, and enriching space for children to learn; appropriate supervision of children; opportunities for socialization; and access to school-based mental, physical, and nutritional health services.

Everything possible must be done to keep students in schools in-person. Many families did not have adequate support to the aforementioned educational services, and disparities, especially in education, did worsen, especially for children who are English language learners, children with disabilities, children living in poverty, and children who are Black, Hispanic/Latino, and American Indian/Alaska Native...

The AAP strongly advocates that all policy considerations for school COVID-19 plans should start with a goal of keeping students safe and physically present in school. The importance of in-person learning is well-documented, and there is already evidence of the negative impacts on children because of school closures in 2020.”

Anonymous wrote:Your conclusion that being more risk averse is "rational" in this situation is where the logic breaks down. Because if demanding a virtual option for your "rational" risk aversion (and your non-medically fragile kid) works, then there should be no requirement for kids to be in a congregate school setting, ever.

Which experts are you listening to? The AAP who worries so much about kids’ risks they want to accelerate over safety trials because the risk is that high? That’s rational right? But my wanting to keep my kids home until they can be vaccinated is not?

You are the one with no logic at all. Feel free to send your children.

Whether you share my approach or not, it’s not irrational.

Anonymous wrote:Your conclusion that being more risk averse is "rational" in this situation is where the logic breaks down. Because if demanding a virtual option for your "rational" risk aversion (and your non-medically fragile kid) works, then there should be no requirement for kids to be in a congregate school setting, ever.

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Anonymous wrote:How much more data does DCPS need? Parents who prefer to keep their kids home - both because the risk of hospitalization for kids is around 1% - and also for families with a medically vulnerable family member at home. Dcps decision to force families into school is deeply concerning. If you feel good sending your kids by all means send them, but provide a solution for children whose parents read these very real risks and reach rational conclusions to be more risk averse.

I don’t want to force your kids to stay home, I know that was excruciating for some families. But I don’t want my kids forced into school with this much community spread.

https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP%20and%20CHA%20-%20Children%20and%20COVID-19%20State%20Data%20Report%208.19%20FINAL.pdf

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/08/23/1029737143/breakthrough-covid-infections-add-even-more-chaos-to-schools-start-n-2021

Will I also be paying for the costs of the lawsuits from the families of the inevitable lawsuits stemming from families forced into in person who sue the city of their children are hospitalized or suffer worse and more tragic outcomes?

Get with it dcps. Virtual option now. Dcps won’t admit they were wrong. Just like they dchealth did with the bungled vaccine rollout.

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Your conclusion that being more risk averse is "rational" in this situation is where the logic breaks down. Because if demanding a virtual option for your "rational" risk aversion (and your non-medically fragile kid) works, then there should be no requirement for kids to be in a congregate school setting, ever.

It's like there are virtual options but you are refusing to see that.