Anonymous
Post 08/15/2021 23:26     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:


Of course. Russia has realized it can turn the USA into a total mess without firing a single bullet and without spending much money.

It will keep happening.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2021 23:08     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 11:29     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:If I was a hospital administrator, I’d ration care by turning away the unvaccinated. They would be the last in line.

Someone comes in from a car accident? They get prioritized over someone with COVID who is unvaccinated.

It’s the ethical decision.


Agree to an extent, but you make it sound really simple. It's not.

Plus, the car accident could be caused by that person's horribly irresponsible driving. Is that just as irresponsible as not getting the vaccine?

Not simple.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 11:24     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
If I was a hospital administrator, I’d ration care by turning away the unvaccinated. They would be the last in line.

Someone comes in from a car accident? They get prioritized over someone with COVID who is unvaccinated.

It’s the ethical decision.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 11:05     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The CDC has had to roll back stats twice this month. How can you be sure what you are reading is correct?


NP. I’m not reading CDC stats. I’m watching interviews with doctors and hospital administrators from these states. They are stretched to their limits and forced to turn patients away.


which was what I was saying in my post just above yours. they say they are overrun and have no more beds. I believe them.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 10:51     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:The CDC has had to roll back stats twice this month. How can you be sure what you are reading is correct?


NP. I’m not reading CDC stats. I’m watching interviews with doctors and hospital administrators from these states. They are stretched to their limits and forced to turn patients away.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 10:47     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
are you saying that the hospitals are lying?

or that abbott was just joking when he asked for out of state health professionals?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 10:45     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
The CDC has had to roll back stats twice this month. How can you be sure what you are reading is correct?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 10:41     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.


This is so sad and preventable.


They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.


and none of those states chose to expand medicaid.



And hundreds of hospitals - mostly serving rural communities - closed in those states which rejected Medicaid expansion. And now they have no hospital capacity left.

The GOP doesn't care about helping people. They only care about getting them angry and feeding their grievances.

and they are the ones who need to be transported to other states that did have the medicaid expansion.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 10:10     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.


This is so sad and preventable.


They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.


and none of those states chose to expand medicaid.



And hundreds of hospitals - mostly serving rural communities - closed in those states which rejected Medicaid expansion. And now they have no hospital capacity left.

The GOP doesn't care about helping people. They only care about getting them angry and feeding their grievances.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 09:59     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.


I guarantee one thing. The healthcare systems will not collapse if demand exceeds capacity for care.

It will ration care, which is something that does happen.

ie, death panels
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 09:58     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.


This is so sad and preventable.


They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.


and none of those states chose to expand medicaid.

Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 00:41     Subject: Re:This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Everything is fine.

Overburdened health care systems from Texas to Florida are pleading with Western Pennsylvania hospitals to take on transfer patients at record-high rates as beds and ventilators reach capacity in covid-19 hot spots across the country.

“They’re running out of space, and they’re looking for help in trying to deal with some of those patients,” Highmark Health CEO David Holmberg told the Tribune-Review by phone Thursday afternoon.

Thieman described a recent influx in “desperate attempts to get patients moved to a facility that can meet even basic medical needs.” In one example, a health system near the Oklahoma and Kansas border already had contacted about 115 facilities in its region to transfer a patient in critical need before requesting help from Highmark’s Allegheny Health Network. All the other providers were either filled to capacity or closed to transfers across state lines.



https://triblive.com/news/health-now/out-of-state-covid-hot-spots-desperate-to-transfer-patients-to-western-pa-hospitals/
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 00:13     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.


I guarantee one thing. The healthcare systems will not collapse if demand exceeds capacity for care.

It will ration care, which is something that does happen.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 00:09     Subject: This is a blue state bug (for now at least)
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.


This is so sad and preventable.


They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.