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Anonymous wrote:I just feel it's only right that I put this out there: there is a lot of talk about how Bethenny can't keep friends.

My cousin grew up in Florida and became friends with Bethenny in the olden days. They had children within a year of each other. My cousin moved to NY in her mid 20's and was on her show a few times. My cousin just moved back to South Florida a couple of years ago. They are still friends. That's 25+ years of friendship.

Yes...and? Bethenny, by her own admission, has a very few long-term, uncomplicated friendships. This sounds like one of them.

Meanwhile, fraught/complex/broken friendships with:
LuAnn
Ramona
Alex
Jill
Kelly
Heather
Kristen
Jules
Carole
Dorinda
Sonja
Tinsley
Her mother
Her father
Her stepfather
At least two of her assistants
Jason
Her first husband
The two other guys she was engaged to
Dennis

That’s great that you got to brag about your cousin’s connection to a famous person, but I think we all see the pattern. And I say this as a Bethenny fan.

This is the dumbest post ever. Judging what a good friend someone is by discussing their relationship with someone they were put on reality show with. She couldn't make it work with Heather, oh no!

Really? So you attend dinner parties with friends and casual acquaintances and...routinely break down and go after people?

How very odd.

I'm not saying Bethenny should (or even can) be good friends with every single cast member. But the fact that she is at the core of every catastrophic meltdown, every season that she's on...yeah, maybe the [problem IS] ratings are because of her. She doesn't have to be besties with all of them, but the fact that she can't even maintain a surface-level, social acquaintance with so many people is just odd. It really is.

Fixed that for you.

And as for the list above. Most of the people B and they just didn't like each other. You can't say they were broken or fraught or complex friendships because they were never friends to begin with. I bet I could list just as many people that you've met/worked with/been at the same party with that you don't like or don't like you. The difference is that she's paid to be entertaining on a "reality" show. She's paid (just like the others are, by the way) to create DRAMA. So, where you and I would just not even engage in people we don't like (or who don't like us) and walk away, these people are paid to confront and fight. Might as well choose the people you don't like.

Obviously the Carole and Jill situation is different, but your list is just wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Just so glad Carole is off the show. She was such a bore and became a mean girl, just desperate to try and fit in wit the younger people. Meanwhile she looked like a granny and looked so foolish.

Sonja I love but seriously her PDA is just too much, she makes such a fool of herself. How can any decent man ever take her seriously?

Carole was a mean girl? WTH. NP here and I have walked into a Bethenny Frankle PR machine.

I agree with you. This Carole-hate mystifies me. So often, Carole is the only adult in the room - calm, rational, and mature. She is incredibly observant and a gifted writer. Her friendship with Heather was the type of friend relationship I strive for.

Shaking my head...

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Anonymous wrote:Just so glad Carole is off the show. She was such a bore and became a mean girl, just desperate to try and fit in wit the younger people. Meanwhile she looked like a granny and looked so foolish.

Sonja I love but seriously her PDA is just too much, she makes such a fool of herself. How can any decent man ever take her seriously?

Carole was a mean girl? WTH. NP here and I have walked into a Bethenny Frankle PR machine.

I hate Carole. She's ALWAYS had this slight condescending nuance. She has no dignity. She's ugly.

I'm glad she's gone. Carole has no redeeming qualities, AND, after watching her/listening to her, I believe her book had heavy editorial guidance.

I admire Bethenny a lot. She's so clever and driven; I can understand how easy it would be for someone like her to feel irritated with loser Carole.

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Bethenny is surely no picnic, but your list is mostly a long cast of people she has been on reality TV with. I'm sorry, what long-time HW/reality personality doesn't have the same long laundry list of people they have complex relationships with???

The fact remains that you don't know this person in real life. Clearly you think you know everything about her, but I would least entertain the possibility that you don't have the full picture from what you're watching on a tv screen.

NP. Bethenny is the one who says she has a few close friends that she has had for years. I'm seeing serious shade in this tweet of hers:

"Bravo has reasons for not asking hwives to return. It’s based on research & focus groups & YOU. Aside from 3 years I left, no RHONY cast member has ever quit. One saying they chose to depart & attributing it to me is fiction. It’s healthier to be truthful about a hard situation."

Well, she's definitely burned that bridge way down. Note to the rest of the cast: bow down before the queen or she'll sic her paid social media people on you to get you fired.

So you're alleging that Bethenny pays people to post anti-Carole items on social media? And these paid people are the reason Carole has been fired? Because Bravo is too stupid to figure out that all the hate for Carole is in fact paid for by Bethenny and not real fan reaction?

That's some theory you have going there.

NP from above. Yes, Bethenny pays people to do exactly that. She has social media handlers and that's what they do. Don't lie PP. B is nasty and a liar. What kind of person goes nuclear on another person like she has done to Carole. Carole has only spoen to the press after being attacked by that bitch. Bethenny shreds to pieces everyone who is close to her. Her only friends are sychophants who are hoping to get something out of the relationship. She is vile.

Posts like these freak me out. Who has this much hatred for someone they watch on TV? It’s just super weird. I mean seriously, do you have major anger issues and this is your outlet?

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Bethenny is surely no picnic, but your list is mostly a long cast of people she has been on reality TV with. I'm sorry, what long-time HW/reality personality doesn't have the same long laundry list of people they have complex relationships with???

The fact remains that you don't know this person in real life. Clearly you think you know everything about her, but I would least entertain the possibility that you don't have the full picture from what you're watching on a tv screen.

NP. Bethenny is the one who says she has a few close friends that she has had for years. I'm seeing serious shade in this tweet of hers:

"Bravo has reasons for not asking hwives to return. It’s based on research & focus groups & YOU. Aside from 3 years I left, no RHONY cast member has ever quit. One saying they chose to depart & attributing it to me is fiction. It’s healthier to be truthful about a hard situation."

Well, she's definitely burned that bridge way down. Note to the rest of the cast: bow down before the queen or she'll sic her paid social media people on you to get you fired.

So you're alleging that Bethenny pays people to post anti-Carole items on social media? And these paid people are the reason Carole has been fired? Because Bravo is too stupid to figure out that all the hate for Carole is in fact paid for by Bethenny and not real fan reaction?

That's some theory you have going there.

NP from above. Yes, Bethenny pays people to do exactly that. She has social media handlers and that's what they do. Don't lie PP. B is nasty and a liar. What kind of person goes nuclear on another person like she has done to Carole. Carole has only spoen to the press after being attacked by that bitch. Bethenny shreds to pieces everyone who is close to her. Her only friends are sychophants who are hoping to get something out of the relationship. She is vile.

Anonymous wrote:Just so glad Carole is off the show. She was such a bore and became a mean girl, just desperate to try and fit in wit the younger people. Meanwhile she looked like a granny and looked so foolish.

Sonja I love but seriously her PDA is just too much, she makes such a fool of herself. How can any decent man ever take her seriously?

Carole was a mean girl? WTH. NP here and I have walked into a Bethenny Frankle PR machine.

Just so glad Carole is off the show. She was such a bore and became a mean girl, just desperate to try and fit in wit the younger people. Meanwhile she looked like a granny and looked so foolish.

Sonja I love but seriously her PDA is just too much, she makes such a fool of herself. How can any decent man ever take her seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they could find a new cast member with young children who is actually still married. I would love to see more of the private school/Momzilla NYC scene.

Jules Wainstein?

I wish it were someone completely new.

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Anonymous wrote:I just feel it's only right that I put this out there: there is a lot of talk about how Bethenny can't keep friends.

My cousin grew up in Florida and became friends with Bethenny in the olden days. They had children within a year of each other. My cousin moved to NY in her mid 20's and was on her show a few times. My cousin just moved back to South Florida a couple of years ago. They are still friends. That's 25+ years of friendship.

Yes...and? Bethenny, by her own admission, has a very few long-term, uncomplicated friendships. This sounds like one of them.

Meanwhile, fraught/complex/broken friendships with:
LuAnn
Ramona
Alex
Jill
Kelly
Heather
Kristen
Jules
Carole
Dorinda
Sonja
Tinsley
Her mother
Her father
Her stepfather
At least two of her assistants
Jason
Her first husband
The two other guys she was engaged to
Dennis

That’s great that you got to brag about your cousin’s connection to a famous person, but I think we all see the pattern. And I say this as a Bethenny fan.

This is the dumbest post ever. Judging what a good friend someone is by discussing their relationship with someone they were put on reality show with. She couldn't make it work with Heather, oh no!

Really? So you attend dinner parties with friends and casual acquaintances and...routinely break down and go after people?

How very odd.

I'm not saying Bethenny should (or even can) be good friends with every single cast member. But the fact that she is at the core of every catastrophic meltdown, every season that she's on...yeah, maybe the problem IS her. She doesn't have to be besties with all of them, but the fact that she can't even maintain a surface-level, social acquaintance with so many people is just odd. It really is.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they could find a new cast member with young children who is actually still married. I would love to see more of the private school/Momzilla NYC scene.

Jules Wainstein?

Didn’t she go through a nasty divorce after she left the show?

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Anonymous wrote:I just feel it's only right that I put this out there: there is a lot of talk about how Bethenny can't keep friends.

My cousin grew up in Florida and became friends with Bethenny in the olden days. They had children within a year of each other. My cousin moved to NY in her mid 20's and was on her show a few times. My cousin just moved back to South Florida a couple of years ago. They are still friends. That's 25+ years of friendship.

Yes...and? Bethenny, by her own admission, has a very few long-term, uncomplicated friendships. This sounds like one of them.

Meanwhile, fraught/complex/broken friendships with:
LuAnn
Ramona
Alex
Jill
Kelly
Heather
Kristen
Jules
Carole
Dorinda
Sonja
Tinsley
Her mother
Her father
Her stepfather
At least two of her assistants
Jason
Her first husband
The two other guys she was engaged to
Dennis

That’s great that you got to brag about your cousin’s connection to a famous person, but I think we all see the pattern. And I say this as a Bethenny fan.

This is the dumbest post ever. Judging what a good friend someone is by discussing their relationship with someone they were put on reality show with. She couldn't make it work with Heather, oh no!

Anonymous wrote:I wish they could find a new cast member with young children who is actually still married. I would love to see more of the private school/Momzilla NYC scene.

Jules Wainstein?

I wish they could find a new cast member with young children who is actually still married. I would love to see more of the private school/Momzilla NYC scene.

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Bethenny is surely no picnic, but your list is mostly a long cast of people she has been on reality TV with. I'm sorry, what long-time HW/reality personality doesn't have the same long laundry list of people they have complex relationships with???

The fact remains that you don't know this person in real life. Clearly you think you know everything about her, but I would least entertain the possibility that you don't have the full picture from what you're watching on a tv screen.

NP. Bethenny is the one who says she has a few close friends that she has had for years. I'm seeing serious shade in this tweet of hers:

"Bravo has reasons for not asking hwives to return. It’s based on research & focus groups & YOU. Aside from 3 years I left, no RHONY cast member has ever quit. One saying they chose to depart & attributing it to me is fiction. It’s healthier to be truthful about a hard situation."

Well, she's definitely burned that bridge way down. Note to the rest of the cast: bow down before the queen or she'll sic her paid social media people on you to get you fired.

So you're alleging that Bethenny pays people to post anti-Carole items on social media? And these paid people are the reason Carole has been fired? Because Bravo is too stupid to figure out that all the hate for Carole is in fact paid for by Bethenny and not real fan reaction?

That's some theory you have going there.

"Bethenny," is a brand, not an individual. Welcome to Social Media 101.

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Anonymous wrote:I just feel it's only right that I put this out there: there is a lot of talk about how Bethenny can't keep friends.

My cousin grew up in Florida and became friends with Bethenny in the olden days. They had children within a year of each other. My cousin moved to NY in her mid 20's and was on her show a few times. My cousin just moved back to South Florida a couple of years ago. They are still friends. That's 25+ years of friendship.

Yes...and? Bethenny, by her own admission, has a very few long-term, uncomplicated friendships. This sounds like one of them.

Meanwhile, fraught/complex/broken friendships with:
LuAnn
Ramona
Alex
Jill
Kelly
Heather
Kristen
Jules
Carole
Dorinda
Sonja
Tinsley
Her mother
Her father
Her stepfather
At least two of her assistants
Jason
Her first husband
The two other guys she was engaged to
Dennis

That’s great that you got to brag about your cousin’s connection to a famous person, but I think we all see the pattern. And I say this as a Bethenny fan.

This list is not of people she was friends with who she had a falling out with. Jules left the show because her marriage was exploding. Not because of Bethenny. Her assistant Julie moved to Philly to get married and start a family (she's pregnant with her second now I think). They had no falling out. She and Dennis are still friends. She was NEVER close or friends with Kelly Bensimon.