Anonymous wrote:Why hasnt’t there been an update on this story? Where has all the money from the GoFundMe campaigns gone?

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be a lot of (or one person posting a lot) to make excuses for gun ownership. Do you lock up your guns? Will you feel the same way if your child killed people or themselves or you?

Its quite shocking - there is no law so shut up. Really? What the fuck is wrong with you?

We know you would never say this in polite company.

Yes, I lock up my guns. If my kid gained access and killed someone, that would be his fault not mine. No, the parents should not be charged with anything, and have a right to own guns regardless of what their kid is up to. Yes, I would say all this to anyone's face. Also, fuck off.

Actually, no, you are wrong about that, if your "kid" is a minor under your care.

Cite the law.

It sounds like PP is trying to bait people, super annoying. I also don't think that PP who throws out "cite the law" actually knows how the law works. Virginia isn't a civil code state, it's common law with statutes. The statute can be written for laws, and if the DA feels there is competing evidence to support the qualifications of a statute, then charges can be filed. With a minor, there are several codes that deal with vicarious liability of a parent for the intentional acts of their minor and unemanicpated child, dealing with things from damage to property, physical damage to a person, driving a car, etc. Some statues actually DO have laws regarding access to guns by a minor, I don't believe Virginia does, but that doesn't get the Giampas off the hook. What the public doesn't know regarding this case (the shooter's prior criminal history or record, prior physical or property damage by shooter, prior diagnosed mental conditions, prior threats, etc.) makes all the difference in the world. Just because people think the Giampa's had a lifestyle of poor taste (political beliefs, shooting ranges, anti-semitism, etc), isn't enough. At the very least, the parents could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor for their recklessness in not keep the firearm unloaded, unlocked and ammunition stored separately as an example. Civially I definitely think they could be found liable.

Notice the shooter's family has been completely silent. No statement expressing their condolences to the Fricker Kuhn family, no statement asking for privacy, NOTHING. There is suggestion the shooter's sister was supportive of the brother's views, and her cell phone was found at the crime scene and the search warranted listed the sister as often loaning her phone to her brother. Did the sister provide any additional help, like securing the weapon for him? Did she give him her phone to use? Is she considered an accessory???? The sister's role is what puzzles me more.

His parents may have taken his cellphone away or maybe he was using his sister's cellphone so that if his girlfriend's parents were monitoring her phone, they would not know that it was him texting to her.

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Anonymous wrote:There seem to be a lot of (or one person posting a lot) to make excuses for gun ownership. Do you lock up your guns? Will you feel the same way if your child killed people or themselves or you?

Its quite shocking - there is no law so shut up. Really? What the fuck is wrong with you?

We know you would never say this in polite company.

Yes, I lock up my guns. If my kid gained access and killed someone, that would be his fault not mine. No, the parents should not be charged with anything, and have a right to own guns regardless of what their kid is up to. Yes, I would say all this to anyone's face. Also, fuck off.

Actually, no, you are wrong about that, if your "kid" is a minor under your care.

Cite the law.

It sounds like PP is trying to bait people, super annoying. I also don't think that PP who throws out "cite the law" actually knows how the law works. Virginia isn't a civil code state, it's common law with statutes. The statute can be written for laws, and if the DA feels there is competing evidence to support the qualifications of a statute, then charges can be filed. With a minor, there are several codes that deal with vicarious liability of a parent for the intentional acts of their minor and unemanicpated child, dealing with things from damage to property, physical damage to a person, driving a car, etc. Some statues actually DO have laws regarding access to guns by a minor, I don't believe Virginia does, but that doesn't get the Giampas off the hook. What the public doesn't know regarding this case (the shooter's prior criminal history or record, prior physical or property damage by shooter, prior diagnosed mental conditions, prior threats, etc.) makes all the difference in the world. Just because people think the Giampa's had a lifestyle of poor taste (political beliefs, shooting ranges, anti-semitism, etc), isn't enough. At the very least, the parents could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor for their recklessness in not keep the firearm unloaded, unlocked and ammunition stored separately as an example. Civially I definitely think they could be found liable.

Notice the shooter's family has been completely silent. No statement expressing their condolences to the Fricker Kuhn family, no statement asking for privacy, NOTHING. There is suggestion the shooter's sister was supportive of the brother's views, and her cell phone was found at the crime scene and the search warranted listed the sister as often loaning her phone to her brother. Did the sister provide any additional help, like securing the weapon for him? Did she give him her phone to use? Is she considered an accessory???? The sister's role is what puzzles me more.

Anonymous wrote:What's worse is that one of the shooter's family members is quoted as saying that we need one more gun law: no guns in the homes where there is someone mentally ill!

I'm no gun-lover, but sherlock.... we don't need a law to fix that situation. We needed YOU, the family, to simply not have guns in your home when YOU knew that this kid was not mentally sound and fed himself violence day in and day out. YOU could have simply not had guns in your home. Grrrrrr. Stupidity.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone remember the 2006 fatal shooting of two police officers outside the Sully District station in Fairfax Co.? The shooter was a mentally ill teen who stole some guns from his parent's home and then drove to the police station where he ambushed and fatally shot the two police officers. The US Attorney tried to get the father on "aiding and abetting" charges and he did eventually serve some time for illegal possession of guns, but not for the aiding and abetting. So it looks like it could be possible for the parents of the Reston shooter to be charged if their son got the gun(s) from their home. To the PP who said she always locks up her guns, read on to see how the shooter got to his parents' "locked" guns.

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like PP is trying to bait people, super annoying. I also don't think that PP who throws out "cite the law" actually knows how the law works. Virginia isn't a civil code state, it's common law with statutes. The statute can be written for laws, and if the DA feels there is competing evidence to support the qualifications of a statute, then charges can be filed. With a minor, there are several codes that deal with vicarious liability of a parent for the intentional acts of their minor and unemanicpated child, dealing with things from damage to property, physical damage to a person, driving a car, etc. Some statues actually DO have laws regarding access to guns by a minor, I don't believe Virginia does, but that doesn't get the Giampas off the hook. What the public doesn't know regarding this case (the shooter's prior criminal history or record, prior physical or property damage by shooter, prior diagnosed mental conditions, prior threats, etc.) makes all the difference in the world. Just because people think the Giampa's had a lifestyle of poor taste (political beliefs, shooting ranges, anti-semitism, etc), isn't enough. At the very least, the parents could be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor for their recklessness in not keep the firearm unloaded, unlocked and ammunition stored separately as an example. Civially I definitely think they could be found liable.

They're not going to be charged. Get over it.

Anonymous wrote:Notice the shooter's family has been completely silent. No statement expressing their condolences to the Fricker Kuhn family, no statement asking for privacy, NOTHING.

Well duh the very first thing any lawyer would advise them is DO NOT SAY ANYTHING.