It doesn’t seem like this was the strongest case to convict him on which is why they brought in all the prior bad acts which is pretty much never allowed in criminal cases because it’s so prejudicial. (Because of course jurors will think — once a rapist, always a rapist. Because there’s a lot of truth in that.). I think the NY prosecutors were maybe showboating a little and wanted the case of the century even if the better facts were out in California.

They need to let him out so he can go back to effin Hollywood back to making decent movies.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, are people saying that there is an ugly movie producer who uses his position to get sex? This cannot be true!

More to the point, there are attractive women willing to have sex with producers to secure parts in movies. Parts that they might never have got if getting movie roles was based purely on talent. Then if they don't get the parts, they cry foul.

Then obviously it’s the women who are at fault.

Who says that the women are at fault? If someone wants to prostitute themselves to get ahead then good for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, are people saying that there is an ugly movie producer who uses his position to get sex? This cannot be true!

More to the point, there are attractive women willing to have sex with producers to secure parts in movies. Parts that they might never have got if getting movie roles was based purely on talent. Then if they don't get the parts, they cry foul.

Then obviously it’s the women who are at fault.

Anonymous wrote:Wait, are people saying that there is an ugly movie producer who uses his position to get sex? This cannot be true!

More to the point, there are attractive women willing to have sex with producers to secure parts in movies. Parts that they might never have got if getting movie roles was based purely on talent. Then if they don't get the parts, they cry foul.

Wait, are people saying that there is an ugly movie producer who uses his position to get sex? This cannot be true!

Anonymous wrote:Weinstein is scum and almost certainly a rapist and I'm glad he went to jail but that was a bad case. From the testimony I recall, the only one who described actual forcible rape was Annabella Sciorra but I believe he wasn't convicted of that one. Her testimony https://www.npr.org/2020/01/23/799059027/actress-annabella-sciorra-testifies-that-harvey-weinstein-raped-her
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The others essentially testified to quid pro quo sexual harassment which also is terrible thing but probably should have been a civil sexual harassment case.

From a legal perspective, you are correct and I agree with you (as much as I detest Weinstein, your analysis is sound).

Begin the merits of this case however, it has long been common-knowledge Hollywood operates largely on quid- pro-quo sexual harassment, particularly targeting younger actors.

“Me too” has not eliminated this illicit practice.

Question is:

- why are we, as a society, continuing to support Hollywood ?

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Anonymous wrote:It's no different than Hugh Hefner and Playboy, yet we don't really drag him through the mud. (Gross) tale as old as time, I guess.

He really died at the opportune moment, didn't he?

OMG, you need to do your research. A&E has made a great multi episode series depicting how horrible he was, they rerun it frequently, well worth watching. It's also been shown on Vice, who do a great job of airing horrible behavior by many who escape it while living.

I mean, I guess? But I do feel like there needs to be some reckoning given how many celebrities were active participants in the Playboy machine and E basically glorified him and those women (that, let's be honest, were pretty close to sex slaves).

Weinstein is scum and almost certainly a rapist and I'm glad he went to jail but that was a bad case. From the testimony I recall, the only one who described actual forcible rape was Annabella Sciorra but I believe he wasn't convicted of that one. Her testimony https://www.npr.org/2020/01/23/799059027/actress-annabella-sciorra-testifies-that-harvey-weinstein-raped-her
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The others essentially testified to quid pro quo sexual harassment which also is terrible thing but probably should have been a civil sexual harassment case.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. You shouldn’t get convicted for sleazy consensual sex for work favors. Those women knew exactly what they were doing and are upset it didn’t go their way. I feel sorry for the women whose careers have been ruined when they didn’t put out, not the ones who did and then complained about it later. They are just as guilty as Weinstein.

no, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

It’s not illegal to sleep with your boss. Stop being ridiculous.

It is if it’s contingent on getting job or not getting fired.

I'm fairly open minded, but I'd never sleep with someone for a job. I wouldn't sleep with someone to save my job either.

Well my H is in law enforcement, and he gets calls where a teen and immigrants are required to give sexual favors to keep their job.

If someone is calling the cops on the boss it doesn't seem required.

It does when they did it to keep their job until somebody found out then told them it's illegal to do that.

P.S. You really live in a teeny tiny bubble don't you.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. You shouldn’t get convicted for sleazy consensual sex for work favors. Those women knew exactly what they were doing and are upset it didn’t go their way. I feel sorry for the women whose careers have been ruined when they didn’t put out, not the ones who did and then complained about it later. They are just as guilty as Weinstein.

no, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

It’s not illegal to sleep with your boss. Stop being ridiculous.

It is if it’s contingent on getting job or not getting fired.

I'm fairly open minded, but I'd never sleep with someone for a job. I wouldn't sleep with someone to save my job either.

Well my H is in law enforcement, and he gets calls where a teen and immigrants are required to give sexual favors to keep their job.

If someone is calling the cops on the boss it doesn't seem required.

It does when they did it to keep their job until somebody found out then told them it's illegal to do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. You shouldn’t get convicted for sleazy consensual sex for work favors. Those women knew exactly what they were doing and are upset it didn’t go their way. I feel sorry for the women whose careers have been ruined when they didn’t put out, not the ones who did and then complained about it later. They are just as guilty as Weinstein.

no, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

It’s not illegal to sleep with your boss. Stop being ridiculous.

It is if it’s contingent on getting job or not getting fired.

this.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. You shouldn’t get convicted for sleazy consensual sex for work favors. Those women knew exactly what they were doing and are upset it didn’t go their way. I feel sorry for the women whose careers have been ruined when they didn’t put out, not the ones who did and then complained about it later. They are just as guilty as Weinstein.

no, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

It’s not illegal to sleep with your boss. Stop being ridiculous.

It is if it’s contingent on getting job or not getting fired.

I'm fairly open minded, but I'd never sleep with someone for a job. I wouldn't sleep with someone to save my job either.

Well my H is in law enforcement, and he gets calls where a teen and immigrants are required to give sexual favors to keep their job.

If someone is calling the cops on the boss it doesn't seem required.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. You shouldn’t get convicted for sleazy consensual sex for work favors. Those women knew exactly what they were doing and are upset it didn’t go their way. I feel sorry for the women whose careers have been ruined when they didn’t put out, not the ones who did and then complained about it later. They are just as guilty as Weinstein.

no, he was in a position of power and exploited it. He SHOULD be convicted.

It’s not illegal to sleep with your boss. Stop being ridiculous.

It is if it’s contingent on getting job or not getting fired.

I'm fairly open minded, but I'd never sleep with someone for a job. I wouldn't sleep with someone to save my job either.

Well my H is in law enforcement, and he gets calls where a teen and immigrants are required to give sexual favors to keep their job.

Anonymous wrote:Good. You shouldn’t get convicted for sleazy consensual sex for work favors. Those women knew exactly what they were doing and are upset it didn’t go their way. I feel sorry for the women whose careers have been ruined when they didn’t put out, not the ones who did and then complained about it later. They are just as guilty as Weinstein.

Agreed. He's gross and I have no problem with him getting crucified in the court of public opinion. But to suggest that these women were victims of a crime and not just women with godawful judgment reflects poorly on women everywhere.