Anonymous wrote:Not a good luck when 3 Bullis seniors have to do a PG year to get into college.

Great job Boarman!

I get most of the critiques of Bullis but this one seems a stretch -- PG years are increasingly about either trying to "trade up" to get Division I or a stronger Division I school, or a college coach wants the player to essentially redshirt either to manage the size of his recruiting class or to have the kid get one year bigger and stronger. On the latter point, by comparison it is now very common to have 20 and 21-year-old freshmen in Division I ice hockey. (Not a good thing, in my view, but that is the landscape.)

Anonymous wrote:Trigg is not as scummy as you think. The Bullis headmaster is a complete scumbag.

It is the only school I know in the history of the IAC, that has ever brought in a 2nd semester senior transfer.

And yes he is doing a PG year, his 5th school in 5 years.

Not too shocking to see the Bullis kids move on to Taft. From the ultimate idiot lax bro DC area prep straight to the ultimate lax bro idiot NE boarding school. Five years of dogshit academics, but the lax is chill, right?

It's up to the parents now. When you see something that diminishes the dignity of a sport when a kid is treated that way, just vote with your feet. Kids don't have forever to be kids or a chance to do it again later in life. Don't waste any of that time on assholes like Cabell Maddox, Trig, Ryan McClernan or Giblin. Every time a family shrugs and stays on board because those programs get their kid recruited, etc the youth sport loses and the kids lose.

I don't know either the Bullis football coach or Trig.

Oddly enough, Bullis and SJC are pretty much on par when it comes to academics.

Anonymous wrote:I have been traveling and just now saw some of the recent discussions.

Trig - Those who call his approach abusive will be wiping your kids' noses when they are in their 20's and 30's. He expects his players to be tough and resilient. He really does not care about the parents. That has been his consistent philosophy over many years. By being tough on his guys in practice and during games, they will be able to withstand pressure and deliver when times are tough. Not for everyone, but I think he is consistent. Those calling him a scumbag are just off base. My kid played for him and got considerably better and tougher as a player. He would run through walls for Trig.

Bullis - Absolutely a renegade program in most sports. The IAC continues to tolerate this aberrant approach to prep school sports. Not sure why. The football coach at Bullis is beneath contempt. In lacrosse, I think they are actually closer to playing by the rules, but there are certainly some questionable behaviors out in Potomac.

I think Pat is a great guy and a great coach. I have heard nothing bad about him either. Care to elaborate why he is "beneath contempt"? Not attacking, just curious. I do agree w the rest of your comments regarding Bullis. Its academic and admissions standards continue to decline.

Re: Trig, completely untrue about the "wiping your kids' noses" remark. I had a collegiate coach spent every practice screaming at and berating us. It made us no better as athletes/a team and many of my teammates attributed his traits and treatment of us as part of the reason we never hoisted a trophy on Memorial Day weekend in spite of getting there twice. And my success post-college is in no way attributable to the treatment I received at practices. Trig is a worse version of that and at a lower age level. He isn't tough on kids, he is verbally abusive and has a terrible habit of finding things his kids are most insecure about and exploiting it. As an opposing coach I saw it many times and it sickens me. He is a more calculating, less obvious version of Giblin. He is on par w Cabbell except Maddux (in spite of being a better businessman) isn't as intelligent as Trig. Glad your kid had a positive experience w him, but he was an outlier.

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Anonymous wrote:If you go on SJC's website, it lists no boys varsity lacrosse coach. There is no mention of a new coach being hired at least not on the external website. So, maybe they have not made a final decision yet. It is apparent from the website that Horsey is no longer coach because the link to varsity lacrosse is virtually blank compared to the other sports teams which list the coaching staff.

Ummmm. Maybe wishful thinking. But Trig has been running summer practices and coached them at a summer tourney. I've heard his screaming at the practices, and I live on the MD side of Western Avenue! SJC has gone to the Dark Side. But they'll be a winning team by 2017. it's all about priorities.

They were a winning team in 2016 - 12-7. And they had a winning record in the WCAC for the first time in, forever? Not an SJC fan in the least, and I am a Horsey fan (but I won't argue the X's and O's comments - he'll be the first to admit there is room for improvement and there has been) but SJC will grow no more w Trig than they would have w Horsey. Any improvement SJC Lax makes will be due to their ever shrinking admissions standards for all athletes and Under Armour $$ (not that much of that will go to lax).

Anonymous wrote:Horsey was a lousy coach at SJC and was pretty average at Landon when he was the offensive coordinator.

While at SJC, I didn't see any type of improvement year over year.

Then you weren't watching SJC. Granted Danny set the bar pretty darn low but there was massive improvement both from a W-L perspective and actual growth.

Anonymous wrote:Trigg is not as scummy as you think. The Bullis headmaster is a complete scumbag.

It is the only school I know in the history of the IAC, that has ever brought in a 2nd semester senior transfer.

And yes he is doing a PG year, his 5th school in 5 years.

A kid came in mid year as a senior AND is doing a PG year?!? That's really trying to make college lacrosse happen.

Senior and 2nd semester transfers as a senior is a joke.

No schools in the IAC operated like this until Boarman showed up.

Anonymous wrote:Since Boarman arrived at Bullis, the athletic department has been operating under a different set of rules. The school has put a very heavy emphasis on football, basketball and lacrosse.

The number of junior or seniors transfers or better yet "rent a players" that happen to arrive at the school at the start of football or basketball season and then depart back to public school once their athletic season is complete is rather embarrassing.

Bullis lead the charge several years ago to kick Prep out of out the IAC for rampant recruiting for football, don't be surprised in the next year or two if the IAC schools vote to give the Bulldogs the boot.

Half-right on Bullis leading the charge of getting Prep football kicked out of the IAC.

Bullis did lead the charge, but all the other schools, except for Landon, joined in.

But the charge was not "rampant recruiting". It was just that Prep teams were sooo much better than the weaker teams in the IAC and that included Bullis. It was one GP player, Marcus Mason, who was making the difference. Without him, GP teams would have still been better than Bullis, but not that much better. After Mason, GP teams pretty much came down to earth and have been at that level for many years.

IAC rules and especially IAC rules concerning "recruiting" are not well understood by many (Probably including the author of this post I am responding to.)

What makes the IAC different from the WCAC is the lack of rules about all sorts of things. When it comes to recruiting, the only thing the IAC prohibits is "first contact". After "first contact" is made, there are no rules.

Prep's football expulsion had to do with their results on the field, not how they got there. The school was accused by Bullis and the others who voted them out of having "objectives that were inconsistent with those of the other schools". They were thrown out for being too good.

It was laughable, of course, for Bullis, a school that had brought Mike Hibbs in from DeMatha to run a WCAC basketball program inside the IAC, to complain about athletic emphasis and success.

The only IAC rule on who can play I'm aware of is the one that says a player cannot play a particular sport in high school for more than 5 years. So no PG's allowed.

I have been traveling and just now saw some of the recent discussions.

Trig - Those who call his approach abusive will be wiping your kids' noses when they are in their 20's and 30's. He expects his players to be tough and resilient. He really does not care about the parents. That has been his consistent philosophy over many years. By being tough on his guys in practice and during games, they will be able to withstand pressure and deliver when times are tough. Not for everyone, but I think he is consistent. Those calling him a scumbag are just off base. My kid played for him and got considerably better and tougher as a player. He would run through walls for Trig.

Bullis - Absolutely a renegade program in most sports. The IAC continues to tolerate this aberrant approach to prep school sports. Not sure why. The football coach at Bullis is beneath contempt. In lacrosse, I think they are actually closer to playing by the rules, but there are certainly some questionable behaviors out in Potomac.

Since Boarman arrived at Bullis, the athletic department has been operating under a different set of rules. The school has put a very heavy emphasis on football, basketball and lacrosse.

The number of junior or seniors transfers or better yet "rent a players" that happen to arrive at the school at the start of football or basketball season and then depart back to public school once their athletic season is complete is rather embarrassing.

Bullis lead the charge several years ago to kick Prep out of out the IAC for rampant recruiting for football, don't be surprised in the next year or two if the IAC schools vote to give the Bulldogs the boot.

Trigg is not as scummy as you think. The Bullis headmaster is a complete scumbag.

It is the only school I know in the history of the IAC, that has ever brought in a 2nd semester senior transfer.

And yes he is doing a PG year, his 5th school in 5 years.

Anonymous wrote:If you go on SJC's website, it lists no boys varsity lacrosse coach. There is no mention of a new coach being hired at least not on the external website. So, maybe they have not made a final decision yet. It is apparent from the website that Horsey is no longer coach because the link to varsity lacrosse is virtually blank compared to the other sports teams which list the coaching staff.

Ummmm. Maybe wishful thinking. But Trig has been running summer practices and coached them at a summer tourney. I've heard his screaming at the practices, and I live on the MD side of Western Avenue! SJC has gone to the Dark Side. But they'll be a winning team by 2017. it's all about priorities.

If you go on SJC's website, it lists no boys varsity lacrosse coach. There is no mention of a new coach being hired at least not on the external website. So, maybe they have not made a final decision yet. It is apparent from the website that Horsey is no longer coach because the link to varsity lacrosse is virtually blank compared to the other sports teams which list the coaching staff.