Anonymous wrote:So Are they really working while they are at home?

Yes, they are.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

Other people have to work until 70 before retiring. It’s not “fair” that your husband gets to retire at 45. We should force him to keep fighting fires until he’s 70 or he should get no pension. It’s “fair,” since we’re also forcing people whose jobs can be done WAH to go back to the office to appease people.

NP. That is a crappy analogy. I guess you did not do too well in persuasion or compare-and-contrast.

No, it’s a good analogy. If it weren’t, you’d explain why it’s bad instead of just declaring that it is.

Also, are “persuasion” and “compare-and-contrast” classes or grades in your country? It’s pretty clear you’re not from the United States.

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Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

You sound so weirdly bitter. It is very difficult to get a job as a firefighter, every person cannot do that and there are way more qualified people than there are spots.

JFC. That was your takeaway?

The gaslighting about SCIFs not being a thing is super weird. Every other person in DC knows what a SCIF is.

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Anonymous wrote:Ive been here 3 decades working in policy analysis and i have never heard of of SCIF. I think some posters are bonkers.

Yes most people with sedentary jobs are quite unhealthy, including being overweight.

There is no way you never heard of it.

And maybe they didn't but that also shows they probably have zero friends or community. So sad for them....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

Other people have to work until 70 before retiring. It’s not “fair” that your husband gets to retire at 45. We should force him to keep fighting fires until he’s 70 or he should get no pension. It’s “fair,” since we’re also forcing people whose jobs can be done WAH to go back to the office to appease people.

NP. That is a crappy analogy. I guess you did not do too well in persuasion or compare-and-contrast.

DP but it’s a great analogy for all the people upset that some jobs can be performed remotely while other people have to work in-person.

If we’re going by the logic that there should not be this sort of division in haves and have nots of telework then I don’t think it’s fair to have some people getting pensions at 45 and none at all! Let’s all just be forced to go to an physical building for 40 + hours per week until we’re 70 so that no one has to be upset that someone who made different life choices than them has different work circumstances.

My spouse works 50-60 hours a week from home. In the office, they will limit it as best they can to 8-9 hours and what doesn't get done, doesn't and too bad.

Anonymous wrote:Ive been here 3 decades working in policy analysis and i have never heard of of SCIF. I think some posters are bonkers.

Yes most people with sedentary jobs are quite unhealthy, including being overweight.

There is no way you never heard of it.

So Are they really working while they are at home?

Anonymous wrote:Ive been here 3 decades working in policy analysis and i have never heard of of SCIF. I think some posters are bonkers.

Yes most people with sedentary jobs are quite unhealthy, including being overweight.

Interesting because places like Arlington and Falls Church are continually showing up on lists of healthiest zip codes. I have tons of friends/neighbors who WAH around here and many are very fit and into actives like running and tennis and boutique gym classes.

Doge is definitely needed!

But isn't it horribly boring? What do you actually do all day? Tapetty- tap on a keyboard?

Ive been here 3 decades working in policy analysis and i have never heard of of SCIF. I think some posters are bonkers.

Yes most people with sedentary jobs are quite unhealthy, including being overweight.

Anonymous wrote:scif -- Definitely made up, Sounds so boring anyone who actually did it would slit their wrists out of boredom by the end of the day.

You’re literally talking about members of our military and government employees dealing with sensitive data related to national security. I hope you are a troll, otherwise you’re a complete moron. Possibly both.

Anonymous wrote:I have never heard of SCIF of either. Did you just make that up??

Anyhoo, sounds incredibly boring. Do you have to sit all day? Stare at a computer screen?

I recommend teaching or firefighting. Or are you too out of shape?

LOL, if you don’t even know what a SCIF is then you really don’t even belong in this thread. It’s not even some obscure acronym. It’s a fairly well known type of federal work building. There are different types of federal buildings (some must be secure and you can’t even have personal phone service) and some agencies can be leased in privately owned buildings. Just like there are different levels of security clearances and different types of data (non-sensitive vs sensitive like PII) being handled.

And I’m a size 2 after 3 kids so sorry to burst your assumption that people who work at computers are out of shape. The zip code I live in is fit (thanks to lots of trails and walkability) and well educated enough for knowledge jobs that allow flexible hours and telework.

I don’t even know what you’re getting out of posting here (I can tell you I don’t really have any incentive for teachers or firefighters to lose any work benefits or flexibility because I’m not jealous of you). You’re either very unhappy or a troll.

Anonymous wrote:I have never heard of SCIF of either. Did you just make that up??

Anyhoo, sounds incredibly boring. Do you have to sit all day? Stare at a computer screen?

I recommend teaching or firefighting. Or are you too out of shape?

How have you never heard of it? Not made up. And, some of those folks partly work at home too.