Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 16:41     Subject: Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:I am thinking of developing a computer program that can check Doctoral Dissertations for any plagiarism, false data and/or other unethical or dishonesty issues strictly for the purpose of reporting them to the applicable Universities the objective 'findings' so that the degree granting institutions can use such information/reports to rescind the doctoral degrees.



They have this already.


Not for the 'sole' purpose of doing the research so that a comprehensive and objective findings will be sent to the applicable institutions. Totally non-partisan project.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 16:36     Subject: Harvard President resigns

Anonymous wrote:I am thinking of developing a computer program that can check Doctoral Dissertations for any plagiarism, false data and/or other unethical or dishonesty issues strictly for the purpose of reporting them to the applicable Universities the objective 'findings' so that the degree granting institutions can use such information/reports to rescind the doctoral degrees.



They have this already.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 16:33     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.


PP here. Totally agree with removing /taking away degree.



Depends. Improper citation not so sure. Outright plagiarism yes.

I love how worked up non-PhD get over this. As if they had the perseverance to ever do a PhD… lulz


I guess original research is a lot easier when it isn't original


+1 Yep. Forgetting quotation marks and footnotes is just an oversight...like forgetting to pay for something you stole.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 16:28     Subject: Harvard President resigns

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am thinking of developing a computer program that can check Doctoral Dissertations for any plagiarism, false data and/or other unethical or dishonesty issues strictly for the purpose of reporting them to the applicable Universities the objective 'findings' so that the degree granting institutions can use such information/reports to rescind the doctoral degrees.

Thus admitting that they did a poor job guiding the doctoral candidates and evaluating their work? Sure.


Any information/news of 'serious' disregard for academic integrity issues will be WIDELY publicized and they will be called out for covering up their systematic and chronic cheating system run by now revealed corrupt administrators. I am sure they will pay attention to any potential damage to their reputations.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:44     Subject: Harvard President resigns

Anonymous wrote:I am thinking of developing a computer program that can check Doctoral Dissertations for any plagiarism, false data and/or other unethical or dishonesty issues strictly for the purpose of reporting them to the applicable Universities the objective 'findings' so that the degree granting institutions can use such information/reports to rescind the doctoral degrees.

Thus admitting that they did a poor job guiding the doctoral candidates and evaluating their work? Sure.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:41     Subject: Harvard President resigns

I am thinking of developing a computer program that can check Doctoral Dissertations for any plagiarism, false data and/or other unethical or dishonesty issues strictly for the purpose of reporting them to the applicable Universities the objective 'findings' so that the degree granting institutions can use such information/reports to rescind the doctoral degrees.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:39     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

Anonymous wrote:
Billionaires Zuckerberg And Ackman Take On Harvard’s Board—Endorsing Their Own Candidates Amid Election Interference Claims. Billionaire Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg and hedge fund manager Bill Ackman launched a campaign this week to replace members of Harvard’s board with their own picks, as the Ivy League’s leadership continues to face criticism following the resignation of one-year president Claudine Gay and a torrent of complaints over reports of antisemitism on campus.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/01/30/billionaires-zuckerberg-and-ackman-take-on-harvards-board-endorsing-their-own-candidates-amid-election-interference-claims/?sh=3d8170ac3557

I guess this is to stop plagiarism? lol this is about Israel and increasing the number of Jewish student at Harvard. Ackman has said he would like to see Jewish students at UPenn to return to history level of 33%. Harvard needs to increase from 10% to 25%.


Quotas for white folks? So, affirmative whiteness campaign but not affirmative action.

Ackerman will not stop even when proven wrong.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:32     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.


PP here. Totally agree with removing /taking away degree.



Depends. Improper citation not so sure. Outright plagiarism yes.

I love how worked up non-PhD get over this. As if they had the perseverance to ever do a PhD… lulz


I guess original research is a lot easier when it isn't original


Took the words right out of my mouth.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 12:34     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.


PP here. Totally agree with removing /taking away degree.



Depends. Improper citation not so sure. Outright plagiarism yes.

I love how worked up non-PhD get over this. As if they had the perseverance to ever do a PhD… lulz


I guess original research is a lot easier when it isn't original
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 12:31     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.


PP here. Totally agree with removing /taking away degree.



Depends. Improper citation not so sure. Outright plagiarism yes.

I love how worked up non-PhD get over this. As if they had the perseverance to ever do a PhD… lulz


Agreed. They are really enjoying this anti-elite, anti-intellectual moment in history.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 12:26     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.


PP here. Totally agree with removing /taking away degree.



Depends. Improper citation not so sure. Outright plagiarism yes.

I love how worked up non-PhD get over this. As if they had the perseverance to ever do a PhD… lulz
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 12:22     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.


PP here. Totally agree with removing /taking away degree.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 11:32     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics


My guess is that if you took ALL Ph.Ds from the top 50 universities, the fake/plagiarist/cheater/academic dishonesty etc. would be at least 50-60% of the entire Ph.Ds granted from those schools.

Any cheaters/plagiarists' doctoral degree should be taken away.
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Post 02/02/2024 10:34     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

Billionaires Zuckerberg And Ackman Take On Harvard’s Board—Endorsing Their Own Candidates Amid Election Interference Claims. Billionaire Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg and hedge fund manager Bill Ackman launched a campaign this week to replace members of Harvard’s board with their own picks, as the Ivy League’s leadership continues to face criticism following the resignation of one-year president Claudine Gay and a torrent of complaints over reports of antisemitism on campus.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/01/30/billionaires-zuckerberg-and-ackman-take-on-harvards-board-endorsing-their-own-candidates-amid-election-interference-claims/?sh=3d8170ac3557

I guess this is to stop plagiarism? lol this is about Israel and increasing the number of Jewish student at Harvard. Ackman has said he would like to see Jewish students at UPenn to return to history level of 33%. Harvard needs to increase from 10% to 25%.
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Post 02/02/2024 09:10     Subject: Re:Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:Our guy Bill Ackman is still at it.

He announced yesterday via Twitter/X plans to investigate every professor at MIT for plagiarism.

And Sally thought she dodged the bullet.


If they did not plagiarize public documents they published, they have nothing whatsoever to fear,

Right?


+1


No it was about not being pro Israel enough. You can never be pro Israel enough. Plagiarism is okay for Ackman’s wife but not for a non Jew in a position of power at an Ivy League. We can look at the example of Yale.


So you think plagiarism is alright? No big deal?


Well, Ackman seems to thinks plagiarism is alright and no big deal - in certain circumstances, of course. Since he's holding the pitchfork and torch, can we just apply his own shaky methods and deem it OK for those we like, but not OK for those we don't care for?


PP here. That's not what I asked. I asked if you think plagiarism is alright. Do you work at Harvard? Harvard should care if anyone attending/instructing there or leading their institution plagiarizes.


Obviously you want to find a convenient, tidy justification for the unhinged witch hunt that buffoon went on for absurdly transparent reasons that had nothing to do with academic integrity.


Obviously, you think plagiarizing other people's work is acceptable.


Just following Ackman’s lead.


If you think plagiarism is wrong and dishonest, then you wouldn't follow anyone's lead -- whether it be Ackman, Trump, or anyone else.


Characterizing what Gay did as plagiarism is laughably absurd.

Now what Oxman did, and who she associated with?


Really? When I was in college, we had an honor code. Copying paragraphs was viewed as cheating/plagiarism and worthy of expulsion.


Except Gay didn't copy paragraphs, or copy anything. She neglected to insert quotation marks, making no effort to represent the words as her own. But carry on with the propaganda campaign because she did, after all, fail to bow down and cower before the sacred cow. And for that, maybe she should have been made to pay an even greater price, right? Right?


Sure. Just a few quotation marks, footnotes, and citations are missing -- that's all!



Code of the Road


She was the President of Harvard.


I'm less moved by that fact than I am by the fact that the wife of the clown who led the Gay witch hunt has been found to be an even more egregious plagiarizer.

Sometimes, the universe DOES provide.


There was a time when this forum would have exploded over someone blaming the wife of the man who did something. Wonder what is different in this case.


Because she plagiarized, that woman is a b!+ch ! - which renders all of her husband’s viewpoints invalid, of course.

See how that works? (or doesn’t).


I think there's a simpler explanation. When you are a public figure or become prominent/controversial enough, you (and, by proxy, your immediate family) open yourself to increased scrutiny. I don't think it's much deeper than that. It is interesting though, how many of these academics have plagiarized and only got caught because someone finally took the time to actually review their work. It makes me question how many prominent academics are guilty of the same but just haven't experienced this yet.


+1 a lot of fakes out there posing as smart academics