Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump just admitted it was a coup. Trump said if Pence had not certified the election and sent it back to the states my people would not have stormed the Capitol.
So sorry Tucker
He’s right. If you think there wasn’t voter fraud in the form of mail ins, you must also believe in the bat theory for coronavirus.
Still waiting on that evidence…. It’s been more than 2 years. What is the pillow guy waiting for?
A prosecutor who has successfully prosecuted voter fraud told me that it is almost impossible to prove unless someone 'turns." And, it almost always involves mail in ballots. I'm guessing drop boxes also fall in that category.
Voter fraud does happen. Proving it is the problem.
Sure it does. There have been a handful of registered Republicans caught in the act - somewhere on DCUM there’s a thread on it.
Did any of these cases happen in a contest where a single or handful of fraudulent votes would have made a difference? No. The number of elections that end with only 1-100 votes between winner and loser is extremely rare.
To overturn a presidential election we’re talking on a fraud scale so mammoth you’d need a large gang of people involved and then it becomes easier to uncover than the rogue single fraudulent voters whose fraud should be prosecuted but did not influence election results.
Map found on wall of election official in Maricopa County marking deep red Republican districts:
“ The dark red areas of Republican voters just happened to include the voting centers where the tabulators and printers were not working on Election Day.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/richard-baris-maricopa-county-kept-gop-heat-map-expected-voters-hanging-wall-voting-centers-heavy-gop-areas-just-happened-election-day/
Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP. Want to know what shows the Trumpers true colors each time? We are here, talking about an attempted coup. We are talking about his followers using violence to try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. What are people posting?! Stupid, f-n conspiracies that they seem to believe gives Trump and his cronies the right to break the law. Guess what? It doesn’t, no matter how many times you post it. You’re welcome to believe it if it helps you sleep at night after supporting Trump, but the rest of us aren’t so gullible.
Conspiracy theories lead to violence. Own your part in all of this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump just admitted it was a coup. Trump said if Pence had not certified the election and sent it back to the states my people would not have stormed the Capitol.
So sorry Tucker
He’s right. If you think there wasn’t voter fraud in the form of mail ins, you must also believe in the bat theory for coronavirus.
Still waiting on that evidence…. It’s been more than 2 years. What is the pillow guy waiting for?
A prosecutor who has successfully prosecuted voter fraud told me that it is almost impossible to prove unless someone 'turns." And, it almost always involves mail in ballots. I'm guessing drop boxes also fall in that category.
Voter fraud does happen. Proving it is the problem.
Sure it does. There have been a handful of registered Republicans caught in the act - somewhere on DCUM there’s a thread on it.
Did any of these cases happen in a contest where a single or handful of fraudulent votes would have made a difference? No. The number of elections that end with only 1-100 votes between winner and loser is extremely rare.
To overturn a presidential election we’re talking on a fraud scale so mammoth you’d need a large gang of people involved and then it becomes easier to uncover than the rogue single fraudulent voters whose fraud should be prosecuted but did not influence election results.
Map found on wall of election official in Maricopa County marking deep red Republican districts:
“ The dark red areas of Republican voters just happened to include the voting centers where the tabulators and printers were not working on Election Day.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/richard-baris-maricopa-county-kept-gop-heat-map-expected-voters-hanging-wall-voting-centers-heavy-gop-areas-just-happened-election-day/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the “J6 committe” say he did? When?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not only did Tucker refuse to show it, he actively lied about it. Tucker said, and I quote, "To this day, there is dispute over how Chansley got into the Capitol building." But in fact, there's no dispute because it's on video. Video that Tucker has but refused to show. Why is that? Why is Tucker lying? What is he hiding?
He left the question more open that the J6 committe does when they say that Sicknick was killed that day.
You're going to have to write in English. Using Google translate from the original Russian isn't working.
Did Sicknick die that day or not?
“ Second, and more significantly, the death of Officer Sicknick became a building block for the House’s impeachment of former President Trump and of the allegations posited by the Democratic House impeachment managers that were publicly filed in their pretrial brief on February 2. By then, there was already substantial reason to question the fire-extinguisher allegation.
”
https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html
That was a low moment for the Republican party. Not Grand at all.
Having a Republican president impeached for inciting an insurrection? Low.
Go peacefully isn’t inciting an insurrection. And he was impeached on a lie.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Chansley got a plea deal. That’s why he only got 4 years. If I were his lawyer and saw these vids prior to the plea agreement, I wouldn’t have encouraged him to go to trial. It’s easy for the lawyer to go on TV now and say whatever he wants, but going to trial when he’s on video committing felonies is risky.
Four years for wandering around the capitol building and taking selfies seems a bit much. Is there any evidence that he used force against any of the officers?
Tell us whether he and anyone else in the mob went through the security screenings to enter the Capitol building. Like every visitor is required to do.
Yes or no - it’s a simple answer!
Four years in prison for going around the security screener![]()
I don't have a dog in the fight. It just seems like the punishment seems a bit excessive.
Read what he pled to and look at the statutes and the recommended sentencing for them.
Those guidelines are insane! Up to 20 years in prison for obstruction? You can kill someone and do less time.
That’s not the guideline. It’s the statutory maximum. The statutory maximum for murder is death.
Ok nerd, so you can do 19 years in prison for obstruction. That's crazy! Since you know so much, maybe you could educate us on the actual guideline.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Chansley got a plea deal. That’s why he only got 4 years. If I were his lawyer and saw these vids prior to the plea agreement, I wouldn’t have encouraged him to go to trial. It’s easy for the lawyer to go on TV now and say whatever he wants, but going to trial when he’s on video committing felonies is risky.
Four years for wandering around the capitol building and taking selfies seems a bit much. Is there any evidence that he used force against any of the officers?
Tell us whether he and anyone else in the mob went through the security screenings to enter the Capitol building. Like every visitor is required to do.
Yes or no - it’s a simple answer!
Four years in prison for going around the security screener![]()
I don't have a dog in the fight. It just seems like the punishment seems a bit excessive.
Read what he pled to and look at the statutes and the recommended sentencing for them.
Those guidelines are insane! Up to 20 years in prison for obstruction? You can kill someone and do less time.
That’s not the guideline. It’s the statutory maximum. The statutory maximum for murder is death.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the “J6 committe” say he did? When?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not only did Tucker refuse to show it, he actively lied about it. Tucker said, and I quote, "To this day, there is dispute over how Chansley got into the Capitol building." But in fact, there's no dispute because it's on video. Video that Tucker has but refused to show. Why is that? Why is Tucker lying? What is he hiding?
He left the question more open that the J6 committe does when they say that Sicknick was killed that day.
You're going to have to write in English. Using Google translate from the original Russian isn't working.
Did Sicknick die that day or not?
“ Second, and more significantly, the death of Officer Sicknick became a building block for the House’s impeachment of former President Trump and of the allegations posited by the Democratic House impeachment managers that were publicly filed in their pretrial brief on February 2. By then, there was already substantial reason to question the fire-extinguisher allegation.
”
https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html
That was a low moment for the Republican party. Not Grand at all.
Having a Republican president impeached for inciting an insurrection? Low.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the “J6 committe” say he did? When?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not only did Tucker refuse to show it, he actively lied about it. Tucker said, and I quote, "To this day, there is dispute over how Chansley got into the Capitol building." But in fact, there's no dispute because it's on video. Video that Tucker has but refused to show. Why is that? Why is Tucker lying? What is he hiding?
He left the question more open that the J6 committe does when they say that Sicknick was killed that day.
You're going to have to write in English. Using Google translate from the original Russian isn't working.
Did Sicknick die that day or not?
“ Second, and more significantly, the death of Officer Sicknick became a building block for the House’s impeachment of former President Trump and of the allegations posited by the Democratic House impeachment managers that were publicly filed in their pretrial brief on February 2. By then, there was already substantial reason to question the fire-extinguisher allegation.
”
https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html
That has nothing to do with the “J6 committe”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Chansley got a plea deal. That’s why he only got 4 years. If I were his lawyer and saw these vids prior to the plea agreement, I wouldn’t have encouraged him to go to trial. It’s easy for the lawyer to go on TV now and say whatever he wants, but going to trial when he’s on video committing felonies is risky.
Four years for wandering around the capitol building and taking selfies seems a bit much. Is there any evidence that he used force against any of the officers?
Tell us whether he and anyone else in the mob went through the security screenings to enter the Capitol building. Like every visitor is required to do.
Yes or no - it’s a simple answer!
Four years in prison for going around the security screener![]()
I don't have a dog in the fight. It just seems like the punishment seems a bit excessive.
Read what he pled to and look at the statutes and the recommended sentencing for them.
Those guidelines are insane! Up to 20 years in prison for obstruction? You can kill someone and do less time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Chansley got a plea deal. That’s why he only got 4 years. If I were his lawyer and saw these vids prior to the plea agreement, I wouldn’t have encouraged him to go to trial. It’s easy for the lawyer to go on TV now and say whatever he wants, but going to trial when he’s on video committing felonies is risky.
Four years for wandering around the capitol building and taking selfies seems a bit much. Is there any evidence that he used force against any of the officers?
Tell us whether he and anyone else in the mob went through the security screenings to enter the Capitol building. Like every visitor is required to do.
Yes or no - it’s a simple answer!
Four years in prison for going around the security screener![]()
I don't have a dog in the fight. It just seems like the punishment seems a bit excessive.
Read what he pled to and look at the statutes and the recommended sentencing for them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the “J6 committe” say he did? When?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not only did Tucker refuse to show it, he actively lied about it. Tucker said, and I quote, "To this day, there is dispute over how Chansley got into the Capitol building." But in fact, there's no dispute because it's on video. Video that Tucker has but refused to show. Why is that? Why is Tucker lying? What is he hiding?
He left the question more open that the J6 committe does when they say that Sicknick was killed that day.
You're going to have to write in English. Using Google translate from the original Russian isn't working.
Did Sicknick die that day or not?
“ Second, and more significantly, the death of Officer Sicknick became a building block for the House’s impeachment of former President Trump and of the allegations posited by the Democratic House impeachment managers that were publicly filed in their pretrial brief on February 2. By then, there was already substantial reason to question the fire-extinguisher allegation.
”
https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html
That has nothing to do with the “J6 committe”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the “J6 committe” say he did? When?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not only did Tucker refuse to show it, he actively lied about it. Tucker said, and I quote, "To this day, there is dispute over how Chansley got into the Capitol building." But in fact, there's no dispute because it's on video. Video that Tucker has but refused to show. Why is that? Why is Tucker lying? What is he hiding?
He left the question more open that the J6 committe does when they say that Sicknick was killed that day.
You're going to have to write in English. Using Google translate from the original Russian isn't working.
Did Sicknick die that day or not?
“ Second, and more significantly, the death of Officer Sicknick became a building block for the House’s impeachment of former President Trump and of the allegations posited by the Democratic House impeachment managers that were publicly filed in their pretrial brief on February 2. By then, there was already substantial reason to question the fire-extinguisher allegation.
”
https://news.yahoo.com/times-corrects-record-officer-sicknick-204024018.html