Let’s start reporting posters who haven’t read the book and are just stirring trouble. This thread is to discuss the book, not what you think you know about Prince Harry.

Anonymous wrote:We've to give it to them some respect for standing up against people who wronged them. Its not for faint of heart.

Standing up = setting boundaries and possibly walking away like a grown up

This whole picture looks more to me like revenge and monetizing it

Anonymous wrote:If Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity, why marry a TV celebrity, do an Oprah tell all, Netflix tell all, book tell all, and move to Cali? This makes absolutely zero sense to me.

As you didn’t read the book please leave this congregation to those of us that did.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, he is privileged financially, etc. But being coldly told your mother is dead, left alone in the dark you fear to process it, and being forced to parade behind her coffin on display like a prize poodle walking a show circuit?

There are millions of financially underprivileged families where no child would ever suffer like that.

Many, many children “suffer like that”, unfortunately.

Could you name one other child that had been forced to parade behind his dead mother’s coffin on live tv? Of the millions you claim exist?

The children I’m thinking about aren’t ‘important’ enough to have been on TV at all, silly! But mu DH was an orphan by 11 so I do think that often people can move on.

DP. I think you are underestimating the impact of going through that under intense public/media scrutiny that follows for years afterward.

Oh please.

How about the impact of going through that and getting no support at all, like everyone else???

Congratulations, your husband wins the suffering Olympics.

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Do you not realize how badly out of touch it is for him to complain?

Not the PP. As someone who is mostly anti-Royal and read the book expecting a hate read (which I did not get), I didn’t think he was complaining at all. He was factual. The fact is that his life as a child was horrific after his mother died. That is just the truth. I didn’t come away from that book thinking he was whiny. I came away from the book — which I expected to gleefully hate — really saddened.

It’s not out of touch for Harry to write about a series of horrifying events he experienced as a child. I have no idea where the crazy haters are making all this stuff up from. I think they are either crazy or they didn’t read the book.

He actually mostly complained about the press, which was very legit. He did not complain about royal duties, which I found surprising. I would think going to endless nursing home openings and ribbon cuttings would be tedious. He seems to be sorry that he can't do that stuff now.

Harry might have memories of doing visits with Diana — and how well they were received. I think he did —and probably does — appreciate that aspect of the job as being something more than perfunctory. I think, too, that with Sentebale and Invictus, he found ways to move beyond the performative aspects of the job to provide meaningful resources and targeted services to people who clearly benefit from them. If Harry sees his purpose as “service” he might include quite a lot — from his military service to ribbon cuttings under that umbrella.

Harry discussed multiple times in the book about how much work/service gave him purpose. My sense is that a big part of why he was so opposed to a complete break from the royal family (in addition to the fact that it is his family), was because he felt he could do a lot of valuable work to support important causes with that platform.

Which was delusional on his part, but he doesn't see that.

Why? I found the story of how Harry started working with disabled vets and the founding of Invictus to be an inspiring read. My opinion of him went up after that.

It’s not delusional at all. He was very successful in highlighting causes. So successful that it threatened other more senior members of the royal family.

Anonymous wrote:We've to give it to them some respect for standing up against people who wronged them. Its not for faint of heart.

+1 Such bravery.

We've to give it to them some respect for standing up against people who wronged them. Its not for faint of heart.

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Anonymous wrote:If Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity, why marry a TV celebrity, do an Oprah tell all, Netflix tell all, book tell all, and move to Cali? This makes absolutely zero sense to me.

Since your conclusions seem off, perhaps you should question your premise. What evidence do you have — from Harry himself — that “Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity “?

Note: Unnamed sources “close to” people who haven’t commented themselves don’t count as actual evidence, even when they’re quoted in the tabloids. Neither do the opinionated public ravings of people who haven’t actually spoken with Harry.

Neat idea!: Since Harry just published a book, and this thread purports to be about the book — does Harry mention anywhere in the book that he wanted “private obscurity “?

Isn't his chief complaint the press and being followed??

DP. You didn't read the book, did you?

+1 Clearly not, or the PP would understand the terrible mistreatment this couple has endured and its lasting effect on their lives.

Tabloid culture sure is toxic but creates free publicity leading to generate $$$$$$$$$$ for celebrities. Its a symbiotic relationship.

They want all the advantages of being celebrities without any of the disadvantages even though human interest is the only thing which raises their values. Its not like they've some exceptional skills, talents or abilities, other than his royal connection. If tabloids weren't creating all the interest, I doubt his book would've sold as many copies or Netflix would've offered as much money as it did.

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Anonymous wrote:If Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity, why marry a TV celebrity, do an Oprah tell all, Netflix tell all, book tell all, and move to Cali? This makes absolutely zero sense to me.

Since your conclusions seem off, perhaps you should question your premise. What evidence do you have — from Harry himself — that “Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity “?

Note: Unnamed sources “close to” people who haven’t commented themselves don’t count as actual evidence, even when they’re quoted in the tabloids. Neither do the opinionated public ravings of people who haven’t actually spoken with Harry.

Neat idea!: Since Harry just published a book, and this thread purports to be about the book — does Harry mention anywhere in the book that he wanted “private obscurity “?

Isn't his chief complaint the press and being followed??

DP. You didn't read the book, did you?

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Anonymous wrote:If Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity, why marry a TV celebrity, do an Oprah tell all, Netflix tell all, book tell all, and move to Cali? This makes absolutely zero sense to me.

Since your conclusions seem off, perhaps you should question your premise. What evidence do you have — from Harry himself — that “Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity “?

Note: Unnamed sources “close to” people who haven’t commented themselves don’t count as actual evidence, even when they’re quoted in the tabloids. Neither do the opinionated public ravings of people who haven’t actually spoken with Harry.

Neat idea!: Since Harry just published a book, and this thread purports to be about the book — does Harry mention anywhere in the book that he wanted “private obscurity “?

Isn't his chief complaint the press and being followed??

Anonymous wrote:If Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity, why marry a TV celebrity, do an Oprah tell all, Netflix tell all, book tell all, and move to Cali? This makes absolutely zero sense to me.

Since your conclusions seem off, perhaps you should question your premise. What evidence do you have — from Harry himself — that “Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity “?

Note: Unnamed sources “close to” people who haven’t commented themselves don’t count as actual evidence, even when they’re quoted in the tabloids. Neither do the opinionated public ravings of people who haven’t actually spoken with Harry.

Neat idea!: Since Harry just published a book, and this thread purports to be about the book — does Harry mention anywhere in the book that he wanted “private obscurity “?

If Harry wanted to fade out into private obscurity, why marry a TV celebrity, do an Oprah tell all, Netflix tell all, book tell all, and move to Cali? This makes absolutely zero sense to me.

Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan now have a golden life. Better than 99.999 of the world. Better than their own talents and gifts would have brought them. They live in a mansion in a highly desirable community. They have rich celebrity friends. They have enough privacy and security that no one is even sure what their daughter looks like, yet they can draw a crowd for whatever cause they deem worthy of their attention.

All because of the lucky accident of Harry's birth into the royal family. Now that he has sold out his family to pay for this golden life, he needs to leave them alone. Quit revealing private nicknames and moments. Quit nursing grievances. Quit doing things that will just rile up the press and social media that you claim to hate. You won.

Did you read the book? I would agree that’s where they are now but what it took to get there wasn’t an easy road. There are people that have that and didn’t lose their mother as a teen due to the press chasing them and taking pictures as they were dying, they didn’t have a whole industry of hate built up against their spouse where it was used to deflect from other stories and drive up online clicks, they didn’t get credible death threats against your spouse and worry if they would have the money to afford security, have close friends or anyone they might be dating followed by the press. And for Harry this was all while he wasn’t allowed to work, was dependent on an allowance and was being told never to comment about press stories. In my opinion while he had perks because of his birth, he didn’t have the power and the kind of money that could protect him and his spouse and kids.

Anyway, I’ve been listening to the audiobook and love it.

I wonder if some powers arranged Meg and Harry union with hopes to one day use either one as a political candidate. With her biracial and his royal background and combined philanthropic goodwill , they would've made ideal candidates. However, it exploded earlier than that. Sudden rise of Meg, Megxit and then powerful celebrities tripping over themselves to help the duo was kind of odd.