Nobody is fighting anybody being forced to play down, other than MLSN1 nobody allowed to play down. Everything else is age, 8/1. About 20 percent of kids will be off grade because of school holdbacks and kids playing up regardless of grade. Only way to avoid misaligned players with grade and age is to go grad year. That didn't happen. Showcases will go grade year though. Tracking grade makes this impossible for clubs, there are no approved/certified grade documents.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Because numbuts like you will whine about RAE. Do it this way and by the time people like you figure out whats going on everyone else has already moved on.
Yes, those parents on the Facebook threads you shared who were looking forward to their kids becoming the oldest on their team. Not everyone sees things your way. It's why flexibility is required/welcomed.
Clubs wont allow to teams to have Aug misaligned players playing down on them. Its that simple, fight it all you want. Not having misaligned players playing down makes things much easier for clubs to manage. You might see clubs guesting Aug /Sept players on grade down teams for wins at tournamants but this would by one off situations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So nobody forced to play on grade, it could be an option for some clubs letting players play up with friends on lower level teams. This has already been covered in club postings. Nothing new.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!
At top clubs August birthday options will be.
1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else
Trust me, bro.
ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.
Bolded for your pleasure. But I'll c+p Because age guy it trying to ignore what is being said
"have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up"
What does friends have to do with club travel soccer?
Which coach of a high performing team wants lesser players forced upon them because of play-dates
That is what the correct grade in school B team is for.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So nobody forced to play on grade, it could be an option for some clubs letting players play up with friends on lower level teams. This has already been covered in club postings. Nothing new.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!
At top clubs August birthday options will be.
1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else
Trust me, bro.
ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.
Bolded for your pleasure. But I'll c+p Because age guy it trying to ignore what is being said
"have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up"
What does friends have to do with club travel soccer?
Which coach of a high performing team wants lesser players forced upon them because of play-dates
That is what the correct grade in school B team is for.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Because numbuts like you will whine about RAE. Do it this way and by the time people like you figure out whats going on everyone else has already moved on.
Yes, those parents on the Facebook threads you shared who were looking forward to their kids becoming the oldest on their team. Not everyone sees things your way. It's why flexibility is required/welcomed.
Clubs wont allow to teams to have Aug misaligned players playing down on them. Its that simple, fight it all you want. Not having misaligned players playing down makes things much easier for clubs to manage. You might see clubs guesting Aug /Sept players on grade down teams for wins at tournamants but this would by one off situations
OR you might see clubs do the opposite -- as long be speculated/debated on here -- roster by age and showcase by grade.
That wont happen because ECNL posts players graduating year in their player profiles. It would show a grade older player playing on a grade younger team.
What you could do is dual roster on both teams.
But I wouldn't expect a player playing league on a grade down team to suddenly tear things up at a grade up showcase. Also I wouldn't expect grade down players or parents to be happy about a player on a grade older team playing down at showcases and stealing their minutes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So nobody forced to play on grade, it could be an option for some clubs letting players play up with friends on lower level teams. This has already been covered in club postings. Nothing new.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!
At top clubs August birthday options will be.
1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else
Trust me, bro.
ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.
Bolded for your pleasure. But I'll c+p Because age guy it trying to ignore what is being said
"have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up"
What does friends have to do with club travel soccer?
Which coach of a high performing team wants lesser players forced upon them because of play-dates
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Because numbuts like you will whine about RAE. Do it this way and by the time people like you figure out whats going on everyone else has already moved on.
Yes, those parents on the Facebook threads you shared who were looking forward to their kids becoming the oldest on their team. Not everyone sees things your way. It's why flexibility is required/welcomed.
Clubs wont allow to teams to have Aug misaligned players playing down on them. Its that simple, fight it all you want. Not having misaligned players playing down makes things much easier for clubs to manage. You might see clubs guesting Aug /Sept players on grade down teams for wins at tournamants but this would by one off situations
OR you might see clubs do the opposite -- as long be speculated/debated on here -- roster by age and showcase by grade.
Anonymous wrote:So nobody forced to play on grade, it could be an option for some clubs letting players play up with friends on lower level teams. This has already been covered in club postings. Nothing new.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!
At top clubs August birthday options will be.
1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else
Trust me, bro.
ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.
Bolded for your pleasure. But I'll c+p Because age guy it trying to ignore what is being said
"have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up"
What post said clubs are forcing grade year? You are misreading again.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Nobody seized on a comment. Another person (add to the list) has told you that clubs will group Aug Sept birthdays by grade which will mean that some players will play up.
I just like rubbing your nose in being wrong. Which will happen more and more as we get closer to fall/SY.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Nobody seized on a comment. Another person (add to the list) has told you that clubs will group Aug Sept birthdays by grade which will mean that some players will play up.
I just like rubbing your nose in being wrong. Which will happen more and more as we get closer to fall/SY.
Does the ECNL league go by grade or by calendar?
College Coaches recruit by graduating year
ECNL groups by age but allows younger players to play up
End result is ECNL SY is like GY because younger players can play up but without the holdbacks playing down. (like you'd see in high school sports)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Nobody seized on a comment. Another person (add to the list) has told you that clubs will group Aug Sept birthdays by grade which will mean that some players will play up.
I just like rubbing your nose in being wrong. Which will happen more and more as we get closer to fall/SY.
Does the ECNL league go by grade or by calendar?
College Coaches recruit by graduating year
ECNL groups by age but allows younger players to play up
End result is ECNL SY is like GY because younger players can play up but without the holdbacks playing down. (like you'd see in high school sports)
So nobody forced to play on grade, it could be an option for some clubs letting players play up with friends on lower level teams. This has already been covered in club postings. Nothing new.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!
At top clubs August birthday options will be.
1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else
Trust me, bro.
ECNL wants kids in their age groups [/b]but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.[/b] They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.
Bolded for your pleasure. But I'll c+p Because age guy it trying to ignore what is being said
"have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up.They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Nobody seized on a comment. Another person (add to the list) has told you that clubs will group Aug Sept birthdays by grade which will mean that some players will play up.
I just like rubbing your nose in being wrong. Which will happen more and more as we get closer to fall/SY.
Does the ECNL league go by grade or by calendar?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Because numbuts like you will whine about RAE. Do it this way and by the time people like you figure out whats going on everyone else has already moved on.
Yes, those parents on the Facebook threads you shared who were looking forward to their kids becoming the oldest on their team. Not everyone sees things your way. It's why flexibility is required/welcomed.
Clubs wont allow to teams to have Aug misaligned players playing down on them. Its that simple, fight it all you want. Not having misaligned players playing down makes things much easier for clubs to manage. You might see clubs guesting Aug /Sept players on grade down teams for wins at tournamants but this would by one off situations
Personal attack.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No reason to trust anyone here, just check your clubs announcement. ECNL and ECRL teams in DC area mentioned on web that age is everything and don't care about grades but a few will let players play up with friends on lower level teams.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which top clubs? In DMV Bethesda, Arlington and other ECNL clubs said play on age, best get to play up. You seem the opposite of on the know when you go against what clubs posted.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aug guy complains relentlessly about this, but guess what? Any Aug kid will be able to find a club to play on grade if need be. Will it be the level OR playing time they want? It depends how good their soccer is and being the youngest it'll have to be. If they aren't happy with the answer, they MAY find playing on age the better option for them. Either way, they are privileged to have options where 90-95% are going to the new age group with other summer birthdays misaligned having no options!
At top clubs August birthday options will be.
1. Play on your grade in school A team
2. Play on your grade in school B team
3. Play somewhere else
Trust me, bro.
ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up. They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team.
This is exactly what age guy doesn't want to hear. Hahahaha so much time wasted trying to @utisticly fight against what everyone is telling him will happen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's wild that age guy just ignores what he doesn't want to believe then trys to highlight the things that don't apply.
ECNL is saying that they want grade alignment. ie Aug Sept birthdays playing up on the team thats their grade in school.
"ECNL wants kids in their age groups but have advised its clubs to allow grade alignment if that means players have to play up."
What ECNL doesnt want is grade down players playing up on a grade older team.
"They don’t want kids the grade behind playing up if they are not a top 5 player on the older team."
This is all because ECNL doesnt not want misaligned players (either way, up or down)
And Aug guy seizes on a comment that's supported by second-hand info. This is not the first time. And it's a comment that's confusing and contradicts itself -- which is why what the actual advice (if it exists) would be determinative. Ya know, like all the ECNL FAQs that detail how'll they'll be case-by-case.
IF ECNL is embracing what you are saying, why not just say it, like a few USYS clubs actually have? They have a podcast. They are big on communication. Why be secret?
Because numbuts like you will whine about RAE. Do it this way and by the time people like you figure out whats going on everyone else has already moved on.
Yes, those parents on the Facebook threads you shared who were looking forward to their kids becoming the oldest on their team. Not everyone sees things your way. It's why flexibility is required/welcomed.