Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:52     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread. So someone may have already said this. Attorney here. I think he is acting on the advice of counsel and speaking from a script intended to minimize the consequences of his actions. They are likely looking for a deal of some kind where he agrees to anger management. I don’t know if jail time is a possibility for what he did. If it is, They are trying to avoid that. Trying to persuade the prosecutors to reduce the charge is also a possibility.


Grabbing papers out of someone’s hands in a threatening manner should not result in jail time absent some priors or political point being made.


Didn't he pin down one person with his bike? Assault with a deadly weapon.


+1

Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:49     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so indicative of how there was a time in this country where we tried and executed witches.

The mob mentality runs high here. And we consider ourselves enlightened liberals.


Ask yourself why this hits home for you.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:49     Subject: Re:[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

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The only thing this guy cares about is fooling everyone else. Period. Full stop. Now, his cover is blown - he is nothing more than a frustrated, angry, raging arsehole, and now it is finally publicized, as it should be.


The guy probably is a douche, but when you say things like this with such authority, you kinda look like a douche yourself.


+1, these are the things said about the innocent people tagged on Twitter, etc. It would be good if we all tried to be conscious of how baseless statements about people we've never met can be harmful. And considering recent events, imagine if the wrongly ID'ed persons were someone of color like Ahmaud Arbery.


But it’s a lot more fun to simply join the mob attacking him.


How many "mob attacks"/baseless claims in the neighborhood do you think this guy has induced/incited? Puleese. Finally, someone outed him.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:44     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread. So someone may have already said this. Attorney here. I think he is acting on the advice of counsel and speaking from a script intended to minimize the consequences of his actions. They are likely looking for a deal of some kind where he agrees to anger management. I don’t know if jail time is a possibility for what he did. If it is, They are trying to avoid that. Trying to persuade the prosecutors to reduce the charge is also a possibility.


Grabbing papers out of someone’s hands in a threatening manner should not result in jail time absent some priors or political point being made.


Didn't he pin down one person with his bike? Assault with a deadly weapon.


A bike could be a deadly weapon if he drove at full speed into someone. Otherwise, that’s quite a stretch. Knocking someone over and briefly staying on top of him also wouldn’t generally itself lead to jail time.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:41     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

This thread is so indicative of how there was a time in this country where we tried and executed witches.

The mob mentality runs high here. And we consider ourselves enlightened liberals.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:41     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread. So someone may have already said this. Attorney here. I think he is acting on the advice of counsel and speaking from a script intended to minimize the consequences of his actions. They are likely looking for a deal of some kind where he agrees to anger management. I don’t know if jail time is a possibility for what he did. If it is, They are trying to avoid that. Trying to persuade the prosecutors to reduce the charge is also a possibility.


Grabbing papers out of someone’s hands in a threatening manner should not result in jail time absent some priors or political point being made.


Didn't he pin down one person with his bike? Assault with a deadly weapon.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:36     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:He will get a deal. Anger management plus lots of community hours and probation.

What he has to deal with on the civil side is another matter altogether.


There won’t be much, if anything, on the civil side because there would be very limited damages without injury.

It is conceivable the teens could claim to have suffered psychological harm, but it will be hard to make much of a case out of that.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:34     Subject: Re:[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:Imagine all the outrage if he had been black. Y’all definitely wouldn’t be pushing for just a slap on the wrist.


Really? Are you at all familiar with the push to reform the criminal justice system and move away from incarceration for minor offenses and the more general restorative justice movement?

The great irony here is that most people who are calling for him to be locked up likely support restorative justice and reform in other contexts.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:33     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

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Anonymous wrote:I turned him in. Doubtful I'm the only one. He's a complete dickwad in the community. Shocker, I know.


Thank you for helping find him. Can you tell us more about his antics in the community?

PP who said he pushed you in the Trader Joe’s parking lot, can you tell us more?


And maybe this has been covered but does he really have an accent and if so what is it?
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:31     Subject: Re:[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Imagine all the outrage if he had been black. Y’all definitely wouldn’t be pushing for just a slap on the wrist.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:25     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

He will get a deal. Anger management plus lots of community hours and probation.

What he has to deal with on the civil side is another matter altogether.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:22     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:He didn't just grab papers, look at the video. She had a roll of tape on her arm and he manhandled her arm to get it off.


He grabbed her arm and yanked the tape away. That wouldn’t normally result in jail time. The more serious offense is that he appeared to knock over the other guy. But shoving someone also won’t usually lead to jail time.

In this context, people are understandably out for blood given the other factors in the background, but we wouldn’t want to actually jail everyone we grabbed someone’s arm or shoved someone. You would have countless lives and families destroyed and really large prison populations.

He has already been punished far more than most would for a similar offense given the publicity and him losing his job. That’s probably the right result, b it any suggestion he would get off easy without jail time would be misguided.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:20     Subject: Re:[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

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Anonymous wrote:I am irritated that he is now saying that he feels really badly and that he is sorry. Whatever. He wasn’t sorry when he was terrorizing those teens.


Let’s say he really is sorry. Maybe this was an eye opening event for him and he realizes he needs help. Wouldn’t this be exact how he would or should respond?

To be clear, I have no idea if he is sincere. But you don’t either. It annoys me when people immediately declare definitively he is just faking it because in your mind there is nothing he could possibly say that would show real remorse. That just makes no sense because it is the kind of thing that some people - not all - really would be remorseful after seeing in a video how horribly he behaved.


What sixty year old acts like that? You know he’s had trouble with other humans along the way. Aggressive behavior doesn’t pop up out of nowhere.


+1

Exactly this. Imagine what is not on camera - I am guessing a good number of his neighbors have cameras, at this point


+2

There is no way this guy was a decent guy and then just snapped for the first time ever. People like this always have long histories of being an aggressive ahole. It's just that it's usually not videotaped.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:10     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

He didn't just grab papers, look at the video. She had a roll of tape on her arm and he manhandled her arm to get it off.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2020 10:08     Subject: [Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread. So someone may have already said this. Attorney here. I think he is acting on the advice of counsel and speaking from a script intended to minimize the consequences of his actions. They are likely looking for a deal of some kind where he agrees to anger management. I don’t know if jail time is a possibility for what he did. If it is, They are trying to avoid that. Trying to persuade the prosecutors to reduce the charge is also a possibility.


Grabbing papers out of someone’s hands in a threatening manner should not result in jail time absent some priors or political point being made.