jsteele
Post 11/10/2017 09:35     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alabama journalists say that rumors about Moore's pedophilia circulated for years.

There will be Moore stories.

Um, all Democrats?


The primary accuser is a Trump voter.

Can you please post the source of that?


It is in the big Post article that has been referenced 1,000 times in this thread. Maybe you should finally read it?
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:34     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alabama journalists say that rumors about Moore's pedophilia circulated for years.

There will be Moore stories.

Um, all Democrats?


The primary accuser is a Trump voter.

Can you please post the source of that?
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:34     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

The latest horrible and twisted logic is that the Bible says that "even if it were true it's OK because Joseph was older than Mary" -

Again, his twisted logic and grotesque lack of understanding of US law in that it does't actually have anything to do with Biblical law, given that 7 out of the Ten Commandments aren't against any US law. US law is based on a combination of US law and Common Law, which comes from English Common Law which also isn't based on the Bible.

He claims to be a "rule of law" guy but 14 is below the legal age of consent.
jsteele
Post 11/10/2017 09:33     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alabama journalists say that rumors about Moore's pedophilia circulated for years.

There will be Moore stories.

Um, all Democrats?


The primary accuser is a Trump voter.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:32     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Alabama journalists say that rumors about Moore's pedophilia circulated for years.

There will be Moore stories.

Um, all Democrats?
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:30     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm amused by the pretzel logic that Republicans are using to stand by their guy. Paranoid conspiracies, twisting biblical passages, and demanding "proof" of the allegations. "Fake News" and questioning the Post's investigating (even though the allegations are supported by about 30 pepole).

You're guy -who was charged with upholding the law and held positions of trust-is a pedophile. You're not entitled to "proof". You didn't wait for "proof" before criticizing Weinstein and others as "liberals" who engaged in sexual assault. Many threads about that and about whether Democrats "condone" such behavior from liberals.

You own it. You own Moore. And if you place his election ahead of these allegations, you are not the part of "family values" or morals. You haven't been for a long time but this cements it. Party over integrity. Just pick up your 20 pieces of silver and be done with it.


+1

The GOP is no longer the party of family values, of strong fiscal responsibility or any other attributes espoused by Ronald Reagan. The GOP is now the part of defending pedophiles, blowing up the budget and codifying an Oligarchy in the mold of Putin's best Russia.


It never really was. Watching the Vietnam documentary these last few weeks, it's somewhat nauseating to realize that "the moral majority" has always been a PR gimmick to camouflage some outrageously immoral policy and beliefs.

Republicans have been using it for more than half a century.

I think the reason so many of them are falling in line behind Trump (or walking away - or running if you're Jason Chafetz) is that they've all got dirt that someone, somewhere uncovered.

And that's why they don't want to let Roy Moore in the clubhouse. They've got enough trouble without someone who doesn't even have the sense to keep his mouth shut and lay low.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:28     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:Alabama journalists say that rumors about Moore's pedophilia circulated for years.

There will be Moore stories.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:28     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Haven't seen everything on this story,
but is there a paper trail to the woman's allegations?

I'd think this would be important.



She told friends about it right after it happened and told her mother some years later and they have comfirmed her account. And she has not changed the details of her story over numerous discussions with the reporter.

That sounds convincing to me. Why would all these people lie? This woman voted for Trump. Why would she make herself vulnerable to attacks from Moore apologists by telling a lie?
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:28     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Haven't seen everything on this story,
but is there a paper trail to the woman's allegations?

I'd think this would be important.



No paper trail what-so-ever?

Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:27     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It is dumbfounding that we are at the point where people are rationalizing a 30 year old sexually molesting/touching a 14 year old girl.

Weinsten is a pig and he has no allegations of pedophilia.
Weiner is a pig, and he was texting, no allegations of touching.

But this is an Assistant DA who was luring and touching a 14 year old girl, and yet people are defending it.

Wake up.


You have absolutely no proof that this occurred besides the word of people who were approached by a newspaper who endorsed the accused opponent.


So 30 people lied. Got it.


The Dems were probably cultivating this for years and waiting for the right time.


Ya, that's it. They lured a 14 year old girl to entrap an Assistant DA in 1979 in the hopes that one day, 38 years later, that Assistant DA would run for office and the Dems could spring it on the world.



(And back then, I would assume that Moore was a dem)

Correct. Moore was a Democrat until 1992.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:26     Subject: Re:Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stephen Colbert: Roy Moore's actions are so disgusting that voters will either remove him from the ballot or make him President.


Liberal voters did that with Clinton. Colbert must be confused.


Clinton molested a 14 year old???


Do you know for a fact that Moore did? Proof? Please provide photos, texts, etc.


Texts from 30 years ago?

30 independent corroborating witnesses attesting to Moore's pursuit of teenaged girls is enough evidence for me.


Exactly my point. We could prove Weiner did what he did. That might be enough evidence for YOU, but there are those of us who call into question that the newspaper breaking the story endorsed the opponent AND the fact that the paper was not approached, but instead did the approaching and investigating.


Misdirection. Either it is true or it's not. Given the bulletproof nature of the story, I believe it is true.

The same newspaper published plenty of critical investigative work about the Clintons and Obamas.

Why isn’t Moore suing for defamation if the claims are not true?
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:23     Subject: Re:Roy Moore the Pedophile

Here is a good short summary of the charges against Moore:

This is the lead anecdote: “Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore. It was early 1979 and Moore … was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing. ‘He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’’ says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. ‘I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.’

“Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear. ‘I wanted it over with — I wanted out,’ she remembers thinking. ‘Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.’ Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did …

“Aside from Corfman, three other women interviewed by The Post in recent weeks say Moore pursued them when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s, episodes they say they found flattering at the time, but troubling as they got older …

“Wendy Miller says she was 14 and working as a Santa’s helper at the Gadsden Mall when Moore first approached her, and 16 when he asked her on dates, which her mother forbade.
“Debbie Wesson Gibson says she was 17 when Moore spoke to her high school civics class and asked her out on the first of several dates that did not progress beyond kissing.
“Gloria Thacker Deason says she was an 18-year-old cheerleader when Moore began taking her on dates that included bottles of Mateus Rosé wine. The legal drinking age in Alabama was 19.”
-- The stories are not the product of opposition research:

“Neither Corfman nor any of the other women sought out The Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women. All were initially reluctant to speak publicly but chose to do so after multiple interviews, saying they thought it was important for people to know about their interactions with Moore. The women say they don’t know one another …
“According to campaign reports, none of the women has donated to or worked for Moore’s Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, or his rivals in the Republican primary, including Sen. Luther Strange, whom he defeated this fall in a runoff election. … Corfman, 53, who works as a customer service representative at a payday loan business, says she has voted for Republicans in the past three presidential elections, including for Donald Trump in 2016.
“This account is based on interviews with more than 30 people who said they knew Moore between 1977 and 1982 … Two of Corfman’s childhood friends say she told them at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says Corfman identified the man as Moore. Wells says her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later, as Moore was becoming more prominent as a local judge.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/11/10/daily-202-as-roy-moore-declines-to-step-aside-a-tale-of-two-republican-parties-emerges/5a04e1dd30fb045a2e002f77/?utm_term=.763ca40bf9f8

He sounds like a complete dirtbag.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:17     Subject: Roy Moore the Pedophile


Haven't seen everything on this story,
but is there a paper trail to the woman's allegations?

I'd think this would be important.

Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:17     Subject: Re:Roy Moore the Pedophile

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stephen Colbert: Roy Moore's actions are so disgusting that voters will either remove him from the ballot or make him President.


Liberal voters did that with Clinton. Colbert must be confused.


Clinton molested a 14 year old???


Do you know for a fact that Moore did? Proof? Please provide photos, texts, etc.


Texts from 30 years ago?

30 independent corroborating witnesses attesting to Moore's pursuit of teenaged girls is enough evidence for me.


Exactly my point. We could prove Weiner did what he did. That might be enough evidence for YOU, but there are those of us who call into question that the newspaper breaking the story endorsed the opponent AND the fact that the paper was not approached, but instead did the approaching and investigating.


That cognitive dissonance of yours may be giving you a stroke, pp. The fact that the paper was not approached is part of what gives the story credibility. You should always be skeptical of someone who comes to you with a story to tell -- they have a hidden agenda, an axe to grind, etc. In this case, they went and asked these women about their stories and corraborated with 30 other people that it happened. The fact that the paper did the approaching is part of the credibility of the accusations, not the opposite.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2017 09:15     Subject: Re:Roy Moore the Pedophile

As a Christian, I'm really appalled by all the excuses these so-called Christian people are coming up with, especially the ones using the Bible. I'm also disgusted how Christian leaders are silent on this issue, not about condemning Moore per se since they shouldn't make a comment on allegations, but about how these so called Christians are using the Bible to excuse this disgusting behavior. It's no wonder why so many Americans are turning away from Christian churches.