Anonymous
06/19/2017 21:06
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't help wondering if Otto tried to hang himself and that's how he got brain damage. Who would blame him.
I bet you wonder about a lot of crazy stuff. Watch yourself.
My DH is an ER doc and said the same. Why should pp "watch" herself?
Easy. It takes a special kind of crazy to "wonder" something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if that PP has some mental health challenges, either diagnosed or undiagnosed.
When an upper middle class student attending UVA gets sentenced to hard labor in a brutal regime like N Korea, yes, I'd consider attempted suicide to be a very likely possibility.
As opposed to a rich student? Or a poor student?
"Hard Labor" = Horrific Torture
Anonymous
06/19/2017 21:04
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
No one said he deserved to die. But lots of people get what they don't deserve, and we don't start nuclear wars.
Very few people here have advocated nuclear war. In fact, I believe it is only one angry poster saying this.
But, I do believe our government should do everything they can to work for the release of Americans unjustly detained.
can you explain exactly what "do everything they can to work for the release of Americans unjustly detained" mean? in terms of actions to be taken, especially with a country with which we have no diplomatic relations, we are not friendly with, under sanctions.
do you know exactly what the Obama administration did in the past year? what steps they took? which channels they tried? people here saying that he did nothing, what do they know exactly?
if Trump was so successful, how come NK released only a kid on the brink of death but kept the other three prisoners?
Are you the special kind of crazy poster?
Get some help.
nope, I am a very rational person, that's why I ask rational questions. sorry if you can't answer (not surprised though)
Anonymous
06/19/2017 21:03
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
Yes I do believe by ignoring his own government guidelines in regards to travel in n Korea , he forfeited his right to be alive .
There are a lot of UMC and rich kids and their parents who think they can do no wrong. You just can't ignore government warnings and get away with it 100% of the time. It's very sad for the young and his parents, but unless you are a billionaire and can bail yourself out, you are in trouble.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 21:01
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
Yes I do believe by ignoring his own government guidelines in regards to travel in n Korea , he forfeited his right to be alive .
Do you also believe that a citizen who either ignores or willfully defies police commands also forfeits his right to be alive?
I would view it as a highly possible outcome. Consequently, I would obey their commands.
I would as well. I'm glad to see you are consistent in your beliefs.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 21:01
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't help wondering if Otto tried to hang himself and that's how he got brain damage. Who would blame him.
I bet you wonder about a lot of crazy stuff. Watch yourself.
My DH is an ER doc and said the same. Why should pp "watch" herself?
Easy. It takes a special kind of crazy to "wonder" something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if that PP has some mental health challenges, either diagnosed or undiagnosed.
When an upper middle class student attending UVA gets sentenced to hard labor in a brutal regime like N Korea, yes, I'd consider attempted suicide to be a very likely possibility.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 21:00
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
No one said he deserved to die. But lots of people get what they don't deserve, and we don't start nuclear wars.
Very few people here have advocated nuclear war. In fact, I believe it is only one angry poster saying this.
But, I do believe our government should do everything they can to work for the release of Americans unjustly detained.
can you explain exactly what "do everything they can to work for the release of Americans unjustly detained" mean? in terms of actions to be taken, especially with a country with which we have no diplomatic relations, we are not friendly with, under sanctions.
do you know exactly what the Obama administration did in the past year? what steps they took? which channels they tried? people here saying that he did nothing, what do they know exactly?
if Trump was so successful, how come NK released only a kid on the brink of death but kept the other three prisoners?
Are you the special kind of crazy poster?
Get some help.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:57
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
Yes I do believe by ignoring his own government guidelines in regards to travel in n Korea , he forfeited his right to be alive .
Do you also believe that a citizen who either ignores or willfully defies police commands also forfeits his right to be alive?
I would view it as a highly possible outcome. Consequently, I would obey their commands.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:57
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
No one said he deserved to die. But lots of people get what they don't deserve, and we don't start nuclear wars.
Very few people here have advocated nuclear war. In fact, I believe it is only one angry poster saying this.
But, I do believe our government should do everything they can to work for the release of Americans unjustly detained.
can you explain exactly what "do everything they can to work for the release of Americans unjustly detained" mean? in terms of actions to be taken, especially with a country with which we have no diplomatic relations, we are not friendly with, under sanctions.
do you know exactly what the Obama administration did in the past year? what steps they took? which channels they tried? people here saying that he did nothing, what do they know exactly?
if Trump was so successful, how come NK released only a kid on the brink of death but kept the other three prisoners?
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:54
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't help wondering if Otto tried to hang himself and that's how he got brain damage. Who would blame him.
I bet you wonder about a lot of crazy stuff. Watch yourself.
My DH is an ER doc and said the same. Why should pp "watch" herself?
Easy. It takes a special kind of crazy to "wonder" something like that. I wouldn't be surprised if that PP has some mental health challenges, either diagnosed or undiagnosed.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:52
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
Yes I do believe by ignoring his own government guidelines in regards to travel in n Korea , he forfeited his right to be alive .
Do you also believe that a citizen who either ignores or willfully defies police commands also forfeits his right to be alive?
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:51
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he was evaluated as brain dead and the family decided to take him off life support.
The doctors said his breathing was not assisted. I’m not sure what other life support would be needed, other than a feeding tube. And, it can take a long time to pass when a feeding tube is removed.
OMG, this is terrible.
I still think he is a stupid idiot, but he did not deserve this. Poor boy, poor parents.
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:50
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Who exactly was the Chinese travel company who arranged this particular trip to NK?
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:49
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can't help wondering if Otto tried to hang himself and that's how he got brain damage. Who would blame him.
I bet you wonder about a lot of crazy stuff. Watch yourself.
My DH is an ER doc and said the same. Why should pp "watch" herself?
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:48
Subject: Re:UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:DCUMers are brutally competitive when it comes to bidding wars and school admissions, but otherwise are classic cheese-eating surrender monkeys. They'd take up a collection to rehang the wall banner if it would help preserve their comfy lives.
This
Anonymous
06/19/2017 20:47
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone travel to NK, let alone a private American citizen? And why would that person (or that person's family) expect the American government to rescue them if they run into trouble in NK? Yes, Americans were strongly advised by our government not to travel there. But it's also common sense. I feel for this young man's family, but he is accountable for his actions in traveling there.
Shhhhh amongst a certain clique of the UMC set of wanna-be UMC , accountability is for others not their snowflakes
So, this young man deserved to die for traveling to a country that has a brutal regime? Just say it if that is what you believe.
Yes I do believe by ignoring his own government guidelines in regards to travel in n Korea , he forfeited his right to be alive .