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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.

Yep, their post was all about diversity. Even if it was, so what, some people don't value it like you do. Not sure why that bothers you. Can we get you down for your kids transferring to Wakefield?

It bothers me because you are talking about PEOPLE. Real, human people and it bothers me that you are being so cavalier about the value of other people.

But that's cool. We're not going to be friends or run in the same circles you sociopath.

You didn't answer my question. You've offered no solution on how to help them, excepts send other people's kids in to do your dirty work. Hint, it's more than rubbing elbows in school together. Maybe you van volunteer to help them since you believe they can't help themselves. You're clearly in Camp Whacko, can't reason with that. It ISN'T a 15 Year Old's job to raise someone else's children. The school's can/should only do so much. Stop feeling guilty and foisting this guilt upon others, it's ok, it's not your fault. Just because we disagree, we can't be friends, aww, I'm hurt. Talk about being closed- minded.

I don't think having better socioeconomic diversity at the schools is about the kids so much at all and I have no idea why people say things like "it isn't a 15 year old's job to raise someone else's children." The PTAs in Arlington have different budgets by a factor of 10. That is on the PARENTS. The resources that the teachers and school communities have vary tremendously by zip code, which is ridiculous depending on how small this county is, and there is no reason one school should focus entirely on coat and food drives and another school should have a PTA with an operating budget and a capital projects budget. It just seems crazy to me that the School Board draws these lines that allow this kind of segregation when our county is IN FACT quite diverse. It isn't about the KIDS "teaching" each other something. I find that line of thinking quite bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.

Yep, their post was all about diversity. Even if it was, so what, some people don't value it like you do. Not sure why that bothers you. Can we get you down for your kids transferring to Wakefield?

It bothers me because you are talking about PEOPLE. Real, human people and it bothers me that you are being so cavalier about the value of other people.

But that's cool. We're not going to be friends or run in the same circles you sociopath.

You didn't answer my question. You've offered no solution on how to help them, excepts send other people's kids in to do your dirty work. Hint, it's more than rubbing elbows in school together. Maybe you van volunteer to help them since you believe they can't help themselves. You're clearly in Camp Whacko, can't reason with that. It ISN'T a 15 Year Old's job to raise someone else's children. The school's can/should only do so much. Stop feeling guilty and foisting this guilt upon others, it's ok, it's not your fault. Just because we disagree, we can't be friends, aww, I'm hurt. Talk about being closed- minded.

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.

Yep, their post was all about diversity. Even if it was, so what, some people don't value it like you do. Not sure why that bothers you. Can we get you down for your kids transferring to Wakefield?

It bothers me because you are talking about PEOPLE. Real, human people and it bothers me that you are being so cavalier about the value of other people.

But that's cool. We're not going to be friends or run in the same circles you sociopath.

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All right. Good luck with your cause. You've lost another sympathetic ear.

I doubt you were all that sympathetic if being reminded of your privilege made you drop out. Enjoy your All Lives Matter meeting.

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.

Yep, their post was all about diversity. Even if it was, so what, some people don't value it like you do. Not sure why that bothers you. Can we get you down for your kids transferring to Wakefield?

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.

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Also, after talking with several ppl at APS and the school board, I'm convinced we will not get a 4th high school. Mark my words--we're going to get 3-4 specialty programs sprinkled through the county of 300-500 students each, all lottery/application, to make up this 1300+ deficit. That way APS doesn't have to do any more rezoning of PLs. That is my guess and my prediction.

It's not going to happen, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:Soooo... western Pike isn't moving to Wakefield and Arlington Forest is?

That's one of 3 options. Nothing is decided yet. In no option does the Western Pike move to Wakefield.

I'm pretty sure the Arlington Forest PUs were only included to make it seem like APS was trying to be fair. They can't chose all the PUs from south of 50. That might raise some eyebrows. Arlington Forest isn't actually going to move. Please.

I agree. It would be politically very hard for them to go with this option (B) based on the reaction I saw tonight. One of the criticisms the AF parents repeatedly said is that there was no explanation provided for why these scenarios were chosen out of the hundreds of options. But I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that they had to have at least one option including PLs north of Route 50. Just to say that they did.

"Why me?!?! Why meeeeeeeeeee?!?!?!?"

Well, I'm not in charge of this thing, but I think they were selected because it MAKES SENSE from many different perspectives. It would reunite their neighborhood (half is already at Wakefield), their kids go to KMS for middle (stability, alignment, and contiguity, check), they are NOT that far from Wakefield, and are closer than almost all the other PU's in the current scenarios (proximity, check), except for the ones that should never have been included for consideration due to, you guessed it, demographics (CHECK). APS is not so stupid to cleave off the poorest PU's from W-L, against their vocal protestations, just because they are geographically closer and to avoid having to make one half of one neighborhood angry. I mean, look at the bright side Arlington Forest folks. You can turn your attention back to the pressing matter of blocking the rebuild of your community center.

Wakefielders, I'm not really sure that you want these tools at your school anyway. They have shown their asses.

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Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410

Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.

You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Soooo... western Pike isn't moving to Wakefield and Arlington Forest is?

That's one of 3 options. Nothing is decided yet. In no option does the Western Pike move to Wakefield.

I'm pretty sure the Arlington Forest PUs were only included to make it seem like APS was trying to be fair. They can't chose all the PUs from south of 50. That might raise some eyebrows. Arlington Forest isn't actually going to move. Please.

I agree. It would be politically very hard for them to go with this option (B) based on the reaction I saw tonight. One of the criticisms the AF parents repeatedly said is that there was no explanation provided for why these scenarios were chosen out of the hundreds of options. But I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that they had to have at least one option including PLs north of Route 50. Just to say that they did.

"Why me?!?! Why meeeeeeeeeee?!?!?!?"

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Anonymous wrote:the day WF is on par with WL/YT is the day this boundary tinkering can finally stop for good, not a second sooner.

Yes. But I despair of that happening when many people in certain odd zip codes talk about their property values rather than social justice (and let's be clear, this is not about property values plummeting, just about how fast they'll rise).

Maybe there are those people. But accusing everyone in that zip code, or the "north" in general, of racism and other sundry defects is a great way to force otherwise sympathetic people into an "us vs them" mindset.

I think it's unmasking the us vs them mindset, in which members of a certain zip code (and no one is saying all members, even if that's what people hear) operate from the assumption that they're entitled to everything they have, and more, and maybe they will do a little something for other members of their community who have fewer advantages. Not because studies show that it's better for kids with lots of advantages to be in close contact with kids with fewer (even though that's true), but because clinging to what you've got and demanding more makes you a terrible person.

And if you need strokes and congratulations to step up and share with your fellow Arlingtonians, if you're upset because someone said something that you think was a reference to you and it hurt your feelings, if you're going to act like a greedy douche unless people ask nicely, get over yourself.

Sorry. That came out wrong. I meant "Your hair looks pretty and you've worked for everything you have."

What a clown. Social justice?!!! Garbage. The resources expended in that school on those kids are tremendous. They should be pissed at you for assuming that they could only succeed if some more affluent kids walk by them in the halls. It's up to the individual to succeed. I don't see it as my kid's responsibility to raise up some disadvantaged kids's prospects. Where are their parents?? The benefits don't come from walking by each other in the hall, possibly the classroom, but where, they likely won't be together except for PE! That opportunity passed by years ago.

I'm assuming your kids will attend Wakefield, even if zoned elsewhere? I doubt it given the paltry stats the County provided for transfers to Wakefield. Social justice, only if it's shouldered by someone else's kids, and then you all feel better that someone was forced to do the dirty work. Talk about selfish, many posters here are phonies.