Studies show black fathers spend more time with their kids then white dads.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/5/13/1383179/-The-absent-black-father-myth-debunked-by-CDC


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/opinion/charles-blow-black-dads-are-doing-the-best-of-all.html?_r=0

I am not going out copy a very long quote but I'm responding to the above. I am a white woman who grew up in the 70s, I am 52. All of my friends and acquaintances, who were African-American had fathers in their lives. I do not think it was all that uncommon in the 70s. The PP who thinks that it was, it must be reacting to stereotypes. And now in my workplace, I work with a few African-American woman and men , and for the most part they are all married. The stereotype of a single AA woman raising her kids is more of an urban, low socioeconomic stereotype.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, saying that the number of black fathers at the dojo is "idealized" isn't racist.

The "missing" black man isn't b/c black men aren't involved in their families. It's a disturbing trend for decades in urban crime and disproportionate jail sentences and draft/military recruitment practices.

Black men were about 9-11% of the population in the US during the 1970s--yet they made up 12.6% of the soldiers serving in Vietnam: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/stevens/africanamer.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/20/upshot/missing-black-men.html?_r=0

It is extremely ignorant to think that black fathers aren't present and that the scene with the black dads is idealized. Is your life completely void of black men at work, at your children's schools, socially, etc? Are you saying that Jack isn't the idealized white dad or all white fathers just like Jack? It's so easy for you to get articles and post them, but do you spend anytime in the black community, at their schools, at their churches, etc. But instead of considering or just using common sense to realize that black fathers are involved with their children, you'd rather hang on to stereotypes. I know plenty of dads like the ones in the dojo and like Randall. If you don't personally know any it doesn't mean they don't exist.

On the contrary. My life is and has been full of black men and families, and i can tell you that in the 70s and 80s it wasn't all happy families until the drug gangs of the 90s. This is a far deeper set issue within the AA community.

Anonymous wrote:Look, saying that the number of black fathers at the dojo is "idealized" isn't racist.

The "missing" black man isn't b/c black men aren't involved in their families. It's a disturbing trend for decades in urban crime and disproportionate jail sentences and draft/military recruitment practices.

Black men were about 9-11% of the population in the US during the 1970s--yet they made up 12.6% of the soldiers serving in Vietnam: http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/stevens/africanamer.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/20/upshot/missing-black-men.html?_r=0

It is extremely ignorant to think that black fathers aren't present and that the scene with the black dads is idealized. Is your life completely void of black men at work, at your children's schools, socially, etc? Are you saying that Jack isn't the idealized white dad or all white fathers just like Jack? It's so easy for you to get articles and post them, but do you spend anytime in the black community, at their schools, at their churches, etc. But instead of considering or just using common sense to realize that black fathers are involved with their children, you'd rather hang on to stereotypes. I know plenty of dads like the ones in the dojo and like Randall. If you don't personally know any it doesn't mean they don't exist.

It it racist. Many black families were two parent back in the 70s and early 80s. The breakdown came in the 80s when divorce among all women increased and in the 90s after the flooding of drugs into the black community and the war on drugs which incarcerated blacks at triple the rate of whites.
Getting back to the show, the black people at the country club were well to do, middle class, the black people that Rebecca and Jack interacted with were middle class successful blacks whose fathers were every bit as involved as Jack in their childrens' lives. That you find this so unbelievable is really ridiculous.

Country club?