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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.

I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.

I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.

Right, much worse to drive around in your own car with no symptoms and not get out, then have an active fever and get on a plane with 170 people. Clearly you are a master of risk measuring.

One person cleared her travel with the CDC or at least made them aware that was running a temperature but was not told to avoid travel. The other is a doctor who made a big deal about a self-imposed quarantine because she had been exposed to the cameraman who had ebola -- and then her desire for a fricking soup was so overwhelming that she had to violate the quarantine.

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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.

I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.

I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.

On her return flight only though. Aren't reports now coming out that it appears she had other symptoms before her first flight to Ohio and why there are now 800 people being contacted/monitored? (actually, not sure if they are going to be monitored/self monitoring - can't remember but would think since they are being contacted?)/

I do appreciate her calling CDC to let them know of her fever, and it's crazy she was cleared. I truly hope she recovers, I feel awful for her that it seems she's doing worse than Nina Pham. But if she wasn't feeling well before her first flight, that was a terrible call on her part to continue with plans. Not just for the potential of exposing people- but for her own health!

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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.

I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.

I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.

Wasn't Snyderman in her own car the whole time? If she never got out of her car (except at home, obviously) how did she put anyone else at risk?

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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.

I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.

I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.

Right, much worse to drive around in your own car with no symptoms and not get out, then have an active fever and get on a plane with 170 people. Clearly you are a master of risk measuring.

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Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.

I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.

I agree about Amber- she sought clearance from the CDC before she traveled. Snyderman, OTOH, was fucking irresponsible and what she did as a physician was borderline unethical.

Snyderman should have been fired by NBC.

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Anonymous wrote:I was all-for travel restrictions until I actually looked into it. Commercial airliners are the only real way to get equipment, supplies and medical personnel into the affected countries to stop this thing. Until it's stopped at the source, we are going to keep having incidents here.

Um, how about dedicating a few for this purpose?

Why can't the military fly those supplies in?

+ 1000

+ another 1000. Commercial airplanes are never the only way to fly. They might be the most economical way to do it but I don't think we should be most worried about finances right now. I'd hate to see organizations like MSF and Samaritan's Purse take a hit right now because of having to use private aircraft, but it's been than the death toll exploding because people are vomiting all over commercial airplanes.

Hell, the military can drop supplies from altitude.

Please provide even one example of a person with Ebola vomiting all over a commercial airplane.

US Citizen sawyer, who is the Nigerian patient 0. He was sick all over the plane.

And not a single one of the 200 passengers was infected as a result.

Guess we just do not have the worlds best healthcare system. Senegal is clear of ebola.

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Anonymous wrote:Obama lied to you. He knew the risk was not extremely low:

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-found-nearly-25-percent-chance-ebola-184611722.html

Oh, please.

The study found there was a twenty-five percent chance that we would see a case here. Despite this, the president said our overall Ebola vulnerability remains very low, which is true. Importing a single case does not equal a U.S. epidemic, as evidenced by the fact that we have seen only two additional cases since Duncan and none outside the hospital setting. The president was right. We will contain it, just as Nigeria did.

Point is he infected two people and one of them was extremely irresponsible. She wasn;t feeling well when she left for Akron and she certainly wasn't feeling well when she returned. She knew the risks of exposure and she decided her wants trumped the need to contain the virus. Dr. Nancy Snyderman acted in an equally selfish way but was lucky to have not contracted or spread the virus.

I'm with you on Snyderman, but Amber gets a pass. She asked the CDC what to do. They are at fault. Amber may be guilty of a foolish decision, but not, I believe, a selfish one.