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Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.

The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.

That’s the total # employees @CNA! Technical and administrative staff.

Govie here. I've been seeing some stuff that makes me think some of the less-well-run FFRDCs are gonna have a rough few years. From what I've heard, it sounds like Mitre was already a mess thanks to their old president, and now RAND is heading down the same path. CNA, IDA, and LL are also taking some hits, but it seems like their leadership is doing a better job of handling things than the others.

IDA had contracts cancelled so they RIFd people. Same as everywhere else. What exactly do you think was different in terms of leadership?

http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2023/12/rand-corp-received-millions-from.html

I was asking what CNA, IDA, and LL specifically are doing well now, weirdo RAND person.

Mitre lost its work to for profit government contractors. Also as PP said above, they aren’t supposed to do regular tasks like SETAs that should be competed. We had a group of Mitre cybersecurity “experts” (NOT) in our IT organization that were let go but quickly replaced by cybersecurity contract staff from the prime on site.

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Anonymous wrote:MITRE was vandalized by a mob and has nothing to do with mismanagement.

Details?

They’re referencing the current administration.

Not unfairly, but still ignoring a whole lotta recent MITRE history.

This exactly. MITRE had a ton of public sector contracts of DOGE’s “list”. But it still seems crazy that they laid off/ are about to lay off 1600+ people this year. They seemed ill prepared to adapt to the administration change in both management and fiscal perspectives.

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Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.

The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.

That’s the total # employees @CNA! Technical and administrative staff.

Govie here. I've been seeing some stuff that makes me think some of the less-well-run FFRDCs are gonna have a rough few years. From what I've heard, it sounds like Mitre was already a mess thanks to their old president, and now RAND is heading down the same path. CNA, IDA, and LL are also taking some hits, but it seems like their leadership is doing a better job of handling things than the others.

IDA had contracts cancelled so they RIFd people. Same as everywhere else. What exactly do you think was different in terms of leadership?

http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2023/12/rand-corp-received-millions-from.html

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Anonymous wrote:MITRE was vandalized by a mob and has nothing to do with mismanagement.

Details?

They’re referencing the current administration.

Not unfairly, but still ignoring a whole lotta recent MITRE history.

Anonymous wrote:MITRE was vandalized by a mob and has nothing to do with mismanagement.

Details?

Anonymous wrote:MITRE was vandalized by a mob and has nothing to do with mismanagement.

wut?

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Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.

The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.

That’s the total # employees @CNA! Technical and administrative staff.

Govie here. I've been seeing some stuff that makes me think some of the less-well-run FFRDCs are gonna have a rough few years. From what I've heard, it sounds like Mitre was already a mess thanks to their old president, and now RAND is heading down the same path. CNA, IDA, and LL are also taking some hits, but it seems like their leadership is doing a better job of handling things than the others.

IDA had contracts cancelled so they RIFd people. Same as everywhere else. What exactly do you think was different in terms of leadership?

MITRE was vandalized by a mob and has nothing to do with mismanagement.

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Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.

The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.

That’s the total # employees @CNA! Technical and administrative staff.

Govie here. I've been seeing some stuff that makes me think some of the less-well-run FFRDCs are gonna have a rough few years. From what I've heard, it sounds like Mitre was already a mess thanks to their old president, and now RAND is heading down the same path. CNA, IDA, and LL are also taking some hits, but it seems like their leadership is doing a better job of handling things than the others.

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Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.

The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.

That’s the total # employees @CNA! Technical and administrative staff.

As PPs stated, in recent years FFRDCs like MITRE moved into traditional government contractor work, taking on SETA and SI work that should have been bid out. It was a gravy train with FFRDCs handed no-compete work for its staff for months at a time (I benefited as a former mitre employee). At times, some astute (prime) contractor PMs on site protested to the COTR and we’d be suddenly booted off a task, but mainly we coexisted and pretended to undertake unique FFRDC tasks.

The FFRDC layoffs are occurring but traditional government contractors are still winning new work with more coming from the new beautiful bill. But much of that work is not going to the FFRDCs.

Anonymous wrote:Seems no more layoffs going to happen now that DOGE has lost its bite.

It's not layoffs, it's contracts getting cancelled or not renewed.

Anonymous wrote:Upthread someone said RIFs were happening this week … for MITRE. Not sure if trying to return there makes sense.

The RIF is another 600 people by August 11th. One more RIF "potentially" in October.

Anonymous wrote:Seems no more layoffs going to happen now that DOGE has lost its bite.

Which place?