Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

Other people have to work until 70 before retiring. It’s not “fair” that your husband gets to retire at 45. We should force him to keep fighting fires until he’s 70 or he should get no pension. It’s “fair,” since we’re also forcing people whose jobs can be done WAH to go back to the office to appease people.

NP. That is a crappy analogy. I guess you did not do too well in persuasion or compare-and-contrast.

DP but it’s a great analogy for all the people upset that some jobs can be performed remotely while other people have to work in-person.

If we’re going by the logic that there should not be this sort of division in haves and have nots of telework then I don’t think it’s fair to have some people getting pensions at 45 and none at all! Let’s all just be forced to go to an physical building for 40 + hours per week until we’re 70 so that no one has to be upset that someone who made different life choices than them has different work circumstances.

Anonymous wrote:scif -- Definitely made up, Sounds so boring anyone who actually did it would slit their wrists out of boredom by the end of the day.

Ugh my DS uses one of these with countless others for things you could not possibly fathom.

Anonymous wrote:It's just suddenly some guy with no gov experience decided I need to be back in the office after a decade at home. It will be more expensive for tax payers (since I will require office space and a transit subsidy of $15:a day) so I can work with people who are not in the same office anyways. I will give up 10 hours a week to commute. Who is gaining anything? No one. I am close to retirement so I will hang on. The young people who the fed desperately needs will move on.

Not true! Someone will benefit. They just happen to own commercial office buildings and/or be billionaires looking to cause layoffs so they can be less competitive about benefits when hiring.

I don’t see why you’re so upset about sacrificing 10 hours of your time per week to help these poor vulnerable real estate moguls and rich people.

Anonymous wrote:scif-- I would guess something to do with boating?

You’d have to have pretty good security clearances to understand the term. Thanks for lol at the people who watch for your security. You are an idiot btw

I'd love to be part of that Doge thing. I'm really good at organizing and throwing useless things away.

Doesn't the concept of Doge come from Italy?

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

Sure because only firefighters and teachers have real jobs. My attorney job is totally make believe.

scif -- Definitely made up, Sounds so boring anyone who actually did it would slit their wrists out of boredom by the end of the day.

Anonymous wrote:I have never heard of SCIF of either. Did you just make that up??

Anyhoo, sounds incredibly boring. Do you have to sit all day? Stare at a computer screen?

I recommend teaching or firefighting. Or are you too out of shape?

In that case you have absolutely no business speaking on government work. Much like the people heading the dgoe you know s*** all about s***.

scif-- I would guess something to do with boating?

I have never heard of SCIF of either. Did you just make that up??

Anyhoo, sounds incredibly boring. Do you have to sit all day? Stare at a computer screen?

I recommend teaching or firefighting. Or are you too out of shape?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

Other people have to work until 70 before retiring. It’s not “fair” that your husband gets to retire at 45. We should force him to keep fighting fires until he’s 70 or he should get no pension. It’s “fair,” since we’re also forcing people whose jobs can be done WAH to go back to the office to appease people.

NP. That is a crappy analogy. I guess you did not do too well in persuasion or compare-and-contrast.

Anonymous wrote:It's just suddenly some guy with no gov experience decided I need to be back in the office after a decade at home. It will be more expensive for tax payers (since I will require office space and a transit subsidy of $15:a day) so I can work with people who are not in the same office anyways. I will give up 10 hours a week to commute. Who is gaining anything? No one. I am close to retirement so I will hang on. The young people who the fed desperately needs will move on.

In case you are wondering my manager is in Chicago so there is no extra supervision. My new employee is in Colorado so so will not send time with him.

It's just suddenly some guy with no gov experience decided I need to be back in the office after a decade at home. It will be more expensive for tax payers (since I will require office space and a transit subsidy of $15:a day) so I can work with people who are not in the same office anyways. I will give up 10 hours a week to commute. Who is gaining anything? No one. I am close to retirement so I will hang on. The young people who the fed desperately needs will move on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.

Yes I want it both ways. I have it and am highly productive with a child at home. (Older now but was helpful when younger). You assume that every job is 9-5 and mine (& many) is not. I have a lot of flexibility. And my performance reviews, and many performance- related awards, including in the past year, demonstrates that.

That’s great you have flexibility. Most people are not as fortunate as you. My spouse will have none with rto. So, they will leave at 7 and probably get home between 6-10 pm depending on traffic and dealing with folks on the west coast and all over the world and still take calls and be on call 24-7. That’s dangerous with little sleep. I have a ton of medical appointments so they will burn through their leave. You se the difference with flexibility and no flexibility.

Then he can look for another job. My immigrant parents worked 12-14 hour jobs and never complained.

Oh, I bet they complained plenty.

Anonymous wrote:Get real jobs.

My DH is a firefighter and works 2 or 3 24-hour shifts per week. He will retire at age 45ish with a fabulous pension. He is able to participate fully in raising our kids.

My master's is in secondary ed and work as a substitute teacher; I schedule my work days around DH's schedule. My kids have minimally needed outside child care. I traded in full-time teaching when my kids came along.

SMH at these glued-to-their-chairs moaning weenies.

Other people have to work until 70 before retiring. It’s not “fair” that your husband gets to retire at 45. We should force him to keep fighting fires until he’s 70 or he should get no pension. It’s “fair,” since we’re also forcing people whose jobs can be done WAH to go back to the office to appease people.