Anonymous
07/31/2023 14:04
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
And, on top of that, he funded her two business attempts- one even before the marriage and one during the marriage Both failed.
Plus, if she was even mildly smart, she could have funded her IRAs.
She can live off the 1.5 mil/year in child support next five years - lets say she spends:
around 240K/year in housing;
About 120k/year in education (a high estimate since she only has to pay half of it;
About 20k/year in extracurricular activities for kids; Dad pay the other half
About 30k/year in clothing for children (crazy I known, but God only knows since they are accustomed to the best);
About 100k in food and entertainment for kids and her (high # but they are probably used to expensive vacations and restaurants, and take outs, etc); At least one week of vacation she can take his Aspen place free of charge per his offer btw
About 50k in health insurance; dad has to pay for half as well;
Let’s throw in another 100k for “incidentals” because why not? They are rich people and have expensive taste…
This all come to a grand total sum of $660k/year.
Her child support is about 1.440mil/year, so that leaves $780k for her to invest if she is wise. In five years, that would total 3.9mil. Plus the 1.4 (or is it 1.6?) mil she already has under the prenup.
Since she has had two failed business attempts, I would hope she does not try a third time and just plain invest that money/income while she has it.
She is set!
Plus, if she was even mildly smart, she could have funded her IRAs.
She can live off the 1.5 mil/year in child support next five years - lets say she spends:
around 240K/year in housing;
About 120k/year in education (a high estimate since she only has to pay half of it;
About 20k/year in extracurricular activities for kids; Dad pay the other half
About 30k/year in clothing for children (crazy I known, but God only knows since they are accustomed to the best);
About 100k in food and entertainment for kids and her (high # but they are probably used to expensive vacations and restaurants, and take outs, etc); At least one week of vacation she can take his Aspen place free of charge per his offer btw
About 50k in health insurance; dad has to pay for half as well;
Let’s throw in another 100k for “incidentals” because why not? They are rich people and have expensive taste…
This all come to a grand total sum of $660k/year.
Her child support is about 1.440mil/year, so that leaves $780k for her to invest if she is wise. In five years, that would total 3.9mil. Plus the 1.4 (or is it 1.6?) mil she already has under the prenup.
Since she has had two failed business attempts, I would hope she does not try a third time and just plain invest that money/income while she has it.
She is set!
Anonymous
07/31/2023 14:00
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.
20 years of work? If we are equating marriage to work then he should also be compensated. He provided all the financial resources for those 20 years. I feel for her but I don’t understand how she has nothing. SAHMs know to put some funds away for themselves just in case…she was just there living in lala land…vacationing, leasing cars and getting cosmetic work done…and then ups and decides to file for divorce without having a solid plan.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:55
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote: He claims she spent over $2 million on plastic surgery last year. He rips her for making public that he broke the news about their divorce to their kids on a 10-minute video call, saying that is "most upsetting to me" in this process.
but mostly, he does not want his child support payments to cover his soon-to-be ex-wife's cosmetic surgery procedures.
An entirely reasonable position.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:54
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
I’m genuinely puzzled by the people who think this will hurt KC’s career. Maybe among three posters on DCUM but that’s just not going to happen with anyone else. If audiences think about it at all, they will mostly cheer him on for pushing his legal and enforceable pre-nup and standing up for himself.
DCUM is such an odd bubble sometimes.
DCUM is such an odd bubble sometimes.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:46
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
He claims she spent over $2 million on plastic surgery last year. He rips her for making public that he broke the news about their divorce to their kids on a 10-minute video call, saying that is "most upsetting to me" in this process.
but mostly, he does not want his child support payments to cover his soon-to-be ex-wife's cosmetic surgery procedures.
but mostly, he does not want his child support payments to cover his soon-to-be ex-wife's cosmetic surgery procedures.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:43
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:He should care. He has children and they are old enough that all their friends are talking about this. Also, Kevin isn't that young anymore. He could die tomorrow and this would be his legacy. He should wrap this up, pursue some good projects, and put something better in people's recent memory.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know all the details, but after being married for so long couldn't they have agreed on a COLA for the $1M and in return she signs an NDA? Then the divorce is over quickly, no bad press for Kevin, and they move on. $1M is a good sum, but I can see how after 20 years of marriage that sum has eroded due to inflation. The prenup is binding, but asking nicely for a COLA may have worked and it could have benefited him to avoid this embarrassing circus.
Posters keep bringing this up as if he cares.
I don't disagree about the impacts on his kids, but Kevin Costner's career has survived far worse than this.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:29
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.
And, on top of that, he funded her two business attempts- one even before the marriage and one during the marriage Both failed.
Plus, if she was even mildly smart, she could have funded her IRAs.
She can live off the 1.5 mil/year in child support next five years - lets say she spends:
around 240K/year in housing;
About 120k/year in education (a high estimate since she only has to pay half of it;
About 20k/year in extracurricular activities for kids; Dad pay the other half
About 30k/year in clothing for children (crazy I known, but God only knows since they are accustomed to the best);
About 100k in food and entertainment for kids and her (high # but they are probably used to expensive vacations and restaurants, and take outs, etc); At least one week of vacation she can take his Aspen place free of charge per his offer btw
About 50k in health insurance; dad has to pay for half as well;
Let’s throw in another 100k for “incidentals” because why not? They are rich people and have expensive taste…
This all come to a grand total sum of $660k/year.
Her child support is about 1.440mil/year, so that leaves $780k for her to invest if she is wise. In five years, that would total 3.9mil. Plus the 1.4 (or is it 1.6?) mil she already has under the prenup.
Since she has had two failed business attempts, I would hope she does not try a third time and just plain invest that money/income while she has it.
She is set!
She didn’t give up a career though. She never had one.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:23
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
He should care. He has children and they are old enough that all their friends are talking about this. Also, Kevin isn't that young anymore. He could die tomorrow and this would be his legacy. He should wrap this up, pursue some good projects, and put something better in people's recent memory.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know all the details, but after being married for so long couldn't they have agreed on a COLA for the $1M and in return she signs an NDA? Then the divorce is over quickly, no bad press for Kevin, and they move on. $1M is a good sum, but I can see how after 20 years of marriage that sum has eroded due to inflation. The prenup is binding, but asking nicely for a COLA may have worked and it could have benefited him to avoid this embarrassing circus.
Posters keep bringing this up as if he cares.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:12
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
I don’t have any particular sympathy or affinity for Costner’s stbxw because she seems shallow and plastic with so much focus on material things and her appearance etc. Personally I think women who are compelled to create or produce in some way as a working person are just more interesting and offer more to society. Being a mom who stays home is a worthwhile endeavor but in her case obviously she wasn’t doing 90% of the work that most SAHMs do - she didn’t have to clean, cook, grocery shop, do laundry, etc. and even had a house manager to manage much of the mental load.
Still I think Costner, who is filthy rich, is being a total jerk in how he is treating her. I was largely checked out of popular culture when he ditched his first wife so I must have missed all the signs of his nastiness as a man, but it is very evident now. I was a huge fan of his when I was younger - his role in American Flyers was one of my first crushes as a teenager - and I loved Dances With Wolves and what he did for the Sioux community, but have since learned that in trying to build a huge resort in the Black Hills he ended up screwing over a lot of Sioux people so really wasn’t such a good guy in that respect after all.
I’m glad I watched Let Him Go recently, and this weekend I finally got around to Hidden Figures which I didn’t even know he was in. But he is definitely now going on my short list which is topped by Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson and filled out by a bunch of other nasty male actors whose work I refuse to support in any way including streaming - even though there are currently no residuals going to actors for that mode of viewing.
I hope Horizons is a colossal flop.
Still I think Costner, who is filthy rich, is being a total jerk in how he is treating her. I was largely checked out of popular culture when he ditched his first wife so I must have missed all the signs of his nastiness as a man, but it is very evident now. I was a huge fan of his when I was younger - his role in American Flyers was one of my first crushes as a teenager - and I loved Dances With Wolves and what he did for the Sioux community, but have since learned that in trying to build a huge resort in the Black Hills he ended up screwing over a lot of Sioux people so really wasn’t such a good guy in that respect after all.
I’m glad I watched Let Him Go recently, and this weekend I finally got around to Hidden Figures which I didn’t even know he was in. But he is definitely now going on my short list which is topped by Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson and filled out by a bunch of other nasty male actors whose work I refuse to support in any way including streaming - even though there are currently no residuals going to actors for that mode of viewing.
I hope Horizons is a colossal flop.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:11
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:I don't know all the details, but after being married for so long couldn't they have agreed on a COLA for the $1M and in return she signs an NDA? Then the divorce is over quickly, no bad press for Kevin, and they move on. $1M is a good sum, but I can see how after 20 years of marriage that sum has eroded due to inflation. The prenup is binding, but asking nicely for a COLA may have worked and it could have benefited him to avoid this embarrassing circus.
Posters keep bringing this up as if he cares.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:49
Subject: Re:Kevin Costner divorce
I don't know all the details, but after being married for so long couldn't they have agreed on a COLA for the $1M and in return she signs an NDA? Then the divorce is over quickly, no bad press for Kevin, and they move on. $1M is a good sum, but I can see how after 20 years of marriage that sum has eroded due to inflation. The prenup is binding, but asking nicely for a COLA may have worked and it could have benefited him to avoid this embarrassing circus.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:47
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.
I can't speak to the enforceability of the prenup, but the terms strike me as unconscionable. I'm a normal, lower UMC woman married to a similar normal, lower UMC man and if I got divorced I would have quite a bit more money than she's getting. That strikes me as odd as we're normal people and she was married to KC (centimillionaire) for a LONG time and they had three kids together.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:44
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.
That’s 75k tax free for 20 years. Likely far more than she would have made working. And certainly significantly more than your average Fed could have saved for retirement.
She’s also receiving more than 100k a month in child support. This is way more than generous for someone who has been surrounded by household staff over the last 20 years taking care of everything for her and the kids.
I bet in the end he does add a few more million to be done with her, but not because she deserves it.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 10:07
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.
She didn’t give up a career though. She never had one.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 09:34
Subject: Kevin Costner divorce
I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.