Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 13:07     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Tell your cheap dad to pay for an upgrade and to stop complaining. If he is too old to travel..stay the F home. I am a boomer, bad back, knees, and all. I would never ask my kid to do this.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 10:18     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s economy, not cargo. The grandparents will survive. If they truly *needed* business class, they would have paid for it. They’re freeloaders. And I bet they are not 85.


Right? It's not that the OP is dining first class on the titanic and sending her parents to steerage. And come ON people, it's what - a 6 hour flight?


9 hours in the air to Athens. 10 on the return. Remember you have to fly all the way across Europe- it's quite a bit further than anywhere in western Europe.


We never go direct - always through AMS or Heathrow.

Again, I think OP and DH should give their seats - if anyone does. But, I don't think I would

The guy who earned the airline miles that are paying for 4 business class seats and all of the hotel rooms, the guy who already spends an inordinate amount of time on airplanes should give up his seat?! That’s nuts.


I do NOT think the parents should give up their seats given the attitude of the teen daughter.

Since this is round trip, have the kids fly coach on the way over and the grandparents coach on the way back.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 07:35     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:Going on a family vacation + cruise later this summer to Greek Isles. Originally booked for myself, DH, and our two kids (16 and 14). We invited my parents a few months ago and they decided to join us. Our family booked 4 first class seats IAD-ATH using FF miles on United (DH is Global Services on United and got a good deal) and my parents ended up booking 2 coach seats in cash many months later (no status). Well, yesterday my parents decided they wouldn’t go on the trip unless they flew first class and that our kids don’t need to fly first class and we should allow them to switch. My dad even offered to give each of my kids $50 to move from first to coach so that they could have lie flat seating transatlantic.

DH is super annoyed. My parents are being real jerks about this and how kids don’t need first class and my dad’s back aches so he totally needs first class. What do I do?


If either of your kids is a girl watch them carefully. Reports are that there are rings of people there now that put a drug in the drink of a young woman or teen, then rape them, sometimes also killing them. Greek Isles is having an issue with it. A young woman was dismembered and another was drugged but managed to get away
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 05:53     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:There is no human right to travel and moreover there is no human right for elderly and sick people to fly first class intercontinental. For environmental reasons the planned trip is idiotic anyway.


+1

If a person isn’t well enough to fly, they aren’t well enough to travel for leisure.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 05:52     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey OP, you basically write an am I the a-hole thread. Probably half the people think you are the a-hole and half don’t. How are you surprised by that?


OP is doing just fine, and the a-holes have outed themselves nicely. Meanwhile, she is probably off on vacation now, and without the tacky older generation (at their choice).

It's a win-win, PP.


This.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 05:48     Subject: Re:Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

My kids would be keeping their seats. Grandparents should have dealt with this earlier and bought the seats they wanted. Very childish.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 02:41     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

There is no human right to travel and moreover there is no human right for elderly and sick people to fly first class intercontinental. For environmental reasons the planned trip is idiotic anyway.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 01:49     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:OP, I saw your update. I think your reaction to your parents is awful. You are a horribly unsympathetic daughter and person

Do you people not understand elderly people or people with health problems?

Old people often have health issues that make it hard to travel!!

His back is hurting! SO he does not want to fly to Athens! It's hurting too much to fly coach or first class. Why do you think he is lying??

You are a swelfish, awful person. I suspect one day you will be an old person in pain and your kids will be terrible to you because you modeled such bad behavior.

Wow. Your family sucks.

DP. You seem to be the one who doesn’t understand elderly people with health problems. My parents (mid 70s) are huge world travelers and do a lot of 10+ hour flights. My mom has bad arthritis, two replaced hips, a replaced knee, and drop foot. They’ve still managed to fly economy on every flight. Is it fun? No. Do they “need first class?” Also no. My family just did a red eye 10 hour flight to Europe. There were a lot of people in their 70s back in economy with us. The notion that anyone needs first class is absurd.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 00:31     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I saw your update. I think your reaction to your parents is awful. You are a horribly unsympathetic daughter and person

Do you people not understand elderly people or people with health problems?

Old people often have health issues that make it hard to travel!!

His back is hurting! SO he does not want to fly to Athens! It's hurting too much to fly coach or first class. Why do you think he is lying??

You are a swelfish, awful person. I suspect one day you will be an old person in pain and your kids will be terrible to you because you modeled such bad behavior.

Wow. Your family sucks.


Why do you think he decided to go on a pleasure trip with a bad back, and purchased coach tickets, and expected a free upgrade from his children?

My dad would die before he would take money or resources away from his grandkids just for his own pleasure. God god, what kind of parents do you have?


Because he was hoping he'd be able to handle it back pain wise and then the pain got better rather than worse. He realized it was a bad idea. It's not insurance fraud. He is OLD and in PAIN and desreves SYMPATHY. And his daughter is giving him none of that.

She's a spoiled brat and so are her kids.

And FYI to your question what kind of parents I have - my parents have dementia and other disabling conditions. It is awful. They can't even go to the doctor without us hiring a wheelchair transport. So complaining about a parent with a bad back realizing he can't fly coach to greece is just....I can't even.

People who cannot empathize with people with health issues and instead dismiss and ridicule them suck. I hope people like that get their come uppance some day when they develop health issues of their own.

And....teens flying in FIRST CLASS?? Jesus. Talk about entitled.

You’re just making up ridiculous stories. Why are you so triggered?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 00:12     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:A perfect example of an entitled child growing up. I would never treat my parents so disrespectfully and seal behind their back. This OP is seeing just how her kids will treat her someday.


The entitled people here are the demanding, bratty parents.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 00:07     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:OP, I saw your update. I think your reaction to your parents is awful. You are a horribly unsympathetic daughter and person

Do you people not understand elderly people or people with health problems?

Old people often have health issues that make it hard to travel!!

His back is hurting! SO he does not want to fly to Athens! It's hurting too much to fly coach or first class. Why do you think he is lying??

You are a swelfish, awful person. I suspect one day you will be an old person in pain and your kids will be terrible to you because you modeled such bad behavior.

Wow. Your family sucks.


You’re wrong wrong wrong.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 00:06     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m more blown away by a 14 year old that expects to fly first class. That would be my parent’s ticket to those seats. Hahaha.


This was my thought 42 pages ago.

My 15 year old nephew once tried to order surf and turf "market priced" that was going to cost over $100. I looked at him and said, "Yeah, no. Until you're the one paying the bill, you order something with a price beside it, and that price better be one of the lower ones."

Anyone not paying for their plane ticket sits in coach, in the middle if necessary.


Such as the grandparents?


Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 00:05     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I saw your update. I think your reaction to your parents is awful. You are a horribly unsympathetic daughter and person

Do you people not understand elderly people or people with health problems?

Old people often have health issues that make it hard to travel!!

His back is hurting! SO he does not want to fly to Athens! It's hurting too much to fly coach or first class. Why do you think he is lying??

You are a swelfish, awful person. I suspect one day you will be an old person in pain and your kids will be terrible to you because you modeled such bad behavior.

Wow. Your family sucks.


Why do you think he decided to go on a pleasure trip with a bad back, and purchased coach tickets, and expected a free upgrade from his children?

My dad would die before he would take money or resources away from his grandkids just for his own pleasure. God god, what kind of parents do you have?


Because he was hoping he'd be able to handle it back pain wise and then the pain got better rather than worse. He realized it was a bad idea. It's not insurance fraud. He is OLD and in PAIN and desreves SYMPATHY. And his daughter is giving him none of that.

She's a spoiled brat and so are her kids.

And FYI to your question what kind of parents I have - my parents have dementia and other disabling conditions. It is awful. They can't even go to the doctor without us hiring a wheelchair transport. So complaining about a parent with a bad back realizing he can't fly coach to greece is just....I can't even.

People who cannot empathize with people with health issues and instead dismiss and ridicule them suck. I hope people like that get their come uppance some day when they develop health issues of their own.

And....teens flying in FIRST CLASS?? Jesus. Talk about entitled.


You are impressively wrong.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2023 00:02     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I saw your update. I think your reaction to your parents is awful. You are a horribly unsympathetic daughter and person

Do you people not understand elderly people or people with health problems?

Old people often have health issues that make it hard to travel!!

His back is hurting! SO he does not want to fly to Athens! It's hurting too much to fly coach or first class. Why do you think he is lying??

You are a swelfish, awful person. I suspect one day you will be an old person in pain and your kids will be terrible to you because you modeled such bad behavior.

Wow. Your family sucks.


Why do you think he decided to go on a pleasure trip with a bad back, and purchased coach tickets, and expected a free upgrade from his children?

My dad would die before he would take money or resources away from his grandkids just for his own pleasure. God god, what kind of parents do you have?


Because he was hoping he'd be able to handle it back pain wise and then the pain got better rather than worse. He realized it was a bad idea. It's not insurance fraud. He is OLD and in PAIN and desreves SYMPATHY. And his daughter is giving him none of that.

She's a spoiled brat and so are her kids.

And FYI to your question what kind of parents I have - my parents have dementia and other disabling conditions. It is awful. They can't even go to the doctor without us hiring a wheelchair transport. So complaining about a parent with a bad back realizing he can't fly coach to greece is just....I can't even.

People who cannot empathize with people with health issues and instead dismiss and ridicule them suck. I hope people like that get their come uppance some day when they develop health issues of their own.

And....teens flying in FIRST CLASS?? Jesus. Talk about entitled.


So why not either bow out gracefully or upgrade himself? My father would never demand things then throw a tantrum.

I'm sorry your parents are so incapacitated, but normal parents/grandparents don't act like toddlers. It's embarrassing.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2023 23:47     Subject: Grandparents insist on taking my kids’ first class seats

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I saw your update. I think your reaction to your parents is awful. You are a horribly unsympathetic daughter and person

Do you people not understand elderly people or people with health problems?

Old people often have health issues that make it hard to travel!!

His back is hurting! SO he does not want to fly to Athens! It's hurting too much to fly coach or first class. Why do you think he is lying??

You are a swelfish, awful person. I suspect one day you will be an old person in pain and your kids will be terrible to you because you modeled such bad behavior.

Wow. Your family sucks.


Why do you think he decided to go on a pleasure trip with a bad back, and purchased coach tickets, and expected a free upgrade from his children?

My dad would die before he would take money or resources away from his grandkids just for his own pleasure. God god, what kind of parents do you have?


Because he was hoping he'd be able to handle it back pain wise and then the pain got better rather than worse. He realized it was a bad idea. It's not insurance fraud. He is OLD and in PAIN and desreves SYMPATHY. And his daughter is giving him none of that.

She's a spoiled brat and so are her kids.

And FYI to your question what kind of parents I have - my parents have dementia and other disabling conditions. It is awful. They can't even go to the doctor without us hiring a wheelchair transport. So complaining about a parent with a bad back realizing he can't fly coach to greece is just....I can't even.

People who cannot empathize with people with health issues and instead dismiss and ridicule them suck. I hope people like that get their come uppance some day when they develop health issues of their own.

And....teens flying in FIRST CLASS?? Jesus. Talk about entitled.


typo - "pain got better rather than worse" should be "pain got worse rather than better"