Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 12:09     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next Level U19 team lost all 5 games at SS Jamboree. Obviously not their A team, but still problematic not to win at least 1 game. NL sent their A team to the Mid-Atlantic League at Univ of DE instead and they still only won 1 game, lost 2 and tied 1 against Washington Wolves. All those “D1” commits and they only scored 4 goals scored. Oooooof!


The bias here is pretty blatant. No consideration given for the opponents. Looking at tourney machine, seems pretty impressive that NL held WC to two goals.

Not sure why your focus is on NL. Why not bring up the fact that Metro had several DI commits on their U19 and failed to bring home hardware? Why not focus on the fact that NL couldn’t get past a DI Wolves commit? Why not mention HUSEL also failed to bring home hardware?

The more disturbing part is the fact that these are kids playing. You are literally trashing the performance of children. If this is the kind of toxicity you choose to bring into everyday life, then I send you thoughts and prayers and hope that neither one of your DD are ever subject to the type of scrutiny you are putting on, I’ll say it again, children.


NP here. Most of the posts here comparing how clubs do at tournaments is nonsense but it is hypocritical of you to complain about PPs critique of NL when you are keeping tabs on how Metro, Wolves, and Husel are doing.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2024 11:19     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

This is not DCUM soccer....
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2024 22:51     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next Level U19 team lost all 5 games at SS Jamboree. Obviously not their A team, but still problematic not to win at least 1 game. NL sent their A team to the Mid-Atlantic League at Univ of DE instead and they still only won 1 game, lost 2 and tied 1 against Washington Wolves. All those “D1” commits and they only scored 4 goals scored. Oooooof!


The bias here is pretty blatant. No consideration given for the opponents. Looking at tourney machine, seems pretty impressive that NL held WC to two goals.

Not sure why your focus is on NL. Why not bring up the fact that Metro had several DI commits on their U19 and failed to bring home hardware? Why not focus on the fact that NL couldn’t get past a DI Wolves commit? Why not mention HUSEL also failed to bring home hardware?

The more disturbing part is the fact that these are kids playing. You are literally trashing the performance of children. If this is the kind of toxicity you choose to bring into everyday life, then I send you thoughts and prayers and hope that neither one of your DD are ever subject to the type of scrutiny you are putting on, I’ll say it again, children.


+1000000

I keep hoping this thread dies because I cannot for the life of me figure out what adults would possibly think it is appropriate to call out other teams performance in this way. No team gets better by dragging down others.

We know nice, hard working girls on every single club in the DMV. Why would I want to celebrate or make a public spectacle of their failure?


Very well said. ❤️
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2024 22:47     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next Level U19 team lost all 5 games at SS Jamboree. Obviously not their A team, but still problematic not to win at least 1 game. NL sent their A team to the Mid-Atlantic League at Univ of DE instead and they still only won 1 game, lost 2 and tied 1 against Washington Wolves. All those “D1” commits and they only scored 4 goals scored. Oooooof!


The bias here is pretty blatant. No consideration given for the opponents. Looking at tourney machine, seems pretty impressive that NL held WC to two goals.

Not sure why your focus is on NL. Why not bring up the fact that Metro had several DI commits on their U19 and failed to bring home hardware? Why not focus on the fact that NL couldn’t get past a DI Wolves commit? Why not mention HUSEL also failed to bring home hardware?

The more disturbing part is the fact that these are kids playing. You are literally trashing the performance of children. If this is the kind of toxicity you choose to bring into everyday life, then I send you thoughts and prayers and hope that neither one of your DD are ever subject to the type of scrutiny you are putting on, I’ll say it again, children.


+1000000

I keep hoping this thread dies because I cannot for the life of me figure out what adults would possibly think it is appropriate to call out other teams performance in this way. No team gets better by dragging down others.

We know nice, hard working girls on every single club in the DMV. Why would I want to celebrate or make a public spectacle of their failure?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2024 22:36     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:Next Level U19 team lost all 5 games at SS Jamboree. Obviously not their A team, but still problematic not to win at least 1 game. NL sent their A team to the Mid-Atlantic League at Univ of DE instead and they still only won 1 game, lost 2 and tied 1 against Washington Wolves. All those “D1” commits and they only scored 4 goals scored. Oooooof!


The bias here is pretty blatant. No consideration given for the opponents. Looking at tourney machine, seems pretty impressive that NL held WC to two goals.

Not sure why your focus is on NL. Why not bring up the fact that Metro had several DI commits on their U19 and failed to bring home hardware? Why not focus on the fact that NL couldn’t get past a DI Wolves commit? Why not mention HUSEL also failed to bring home hardware?

The more disturbing part is the fact that these are kids playing. You are literally trashing the performance of children. If this is the kind of toxicity you choose to bring into everyday life, then I send you thoughts and prayers and hope that neither one of your DD are ever subject to the type of scrutiny you are putting on, I’ll say it again, children.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2024 00:30     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Next Level U19 team lost all 5 games at SS Jamboree. Obviously not their A team, but still problematic not to win at least 1 game. NL sent their A team to the Mid-Atlantic League at Univ of DE instead and they still only won 1 game, lost 2 and tied 1 against Washington Wolves. All those “D1” commits and they only scored 4 goals scored. Oooooof!
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2024 14:33     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Some teams bring the girls who sign up even if they are committed. Some smaller clubs don’t have enough players to not use those already committed. It seems those committed would want to play as much as possible to prep for college. Let’s also remember committed players are playing u19 only.

Some tournaments happen around holidays or school breaks so that becomes a consideration.

There are a lot of factors at play and it’s silly to think anyone on here knows why a club brings the players they bring. The exception being any coaches who are following this thread. And they only know for their own club.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2024 12:21     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Freedom showing at Shooting Star Showdown not great. Next Level did terrible. Warhawks went undefeated. Washington Wolves look like they did fairly well. Better competition this weekend at Shooting Star Jamboree (i.e. WC Eagles, Metro HC, Saints, Husel and Hammers)


Many teams are dealing with absences due to schedule conflicts. College Connection and USAFH have a partnership, yet many sites had Nexus last weekend. Additionally, more college coaches attend Showdown than Jamboree which is why the competition at Showdown is always tougher. Plus, tournaments like Showdown are a highlight for those looking to be recruited. The real test will be RCCs.


You just know this is a Freedom PP because Freedom went to Shooting Star Showdown (formerly called SS Easter) and PP said it’s a “tougher” tournament. This is not true at all. DD has attended both Showdown and Jamboree in the past and Jamboree is the better showcase - more college coaches in attendance and better teams. IYKYK. Wouldn’t be surprised if next year Freedom goes to Jamboree instead.




OP here. Not a Freedom parent. Compare the college coaches for Showdown vs Jamboree for this year specifically and I think you’ll see that Showdown had more. Additionally many colleges, DI - DIII, had clinics this weekend so many strong field hockey programs were not represented.

It is a well known fact that many teams, WC as an example, do not send their top players to Showdown or Jamboree. They send the players still looking for commitments. I stand by my statement - RCCs is the true test of the strength of the club for our region.


What’s sad is the top clubs (Freedom, WC) don’t send their top teams (not even their top 2 teams) but small clubs like Washington Wolves, HUSEL, Hymax do send their top talent and they still can’t win the pool they are in. I agree these events or for individuals to showcase for recruitment and not about team winning but you would think local clubs could medal when top clubs aren’t sending their best talent.


This is not accurate. For RCCs, NIT, Festival, etc. the top teams go. They do not for things like this. I know it was not true for our club (which is one of the bolded that you listed).
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2024 11:13     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Freedom showing at Shooting Star Showdown not great. Next Level did terrible. Warhawks went undefeated. Washington Wolves look like they did fairly well. Better competition this weekend at Shooting Star Jamboree (i.e. WC Eagles, Metro HC, Saints, Husel and Hammers)


Many teams are dealing with absences due to schedule conflicts. College Connection and USAFH have a partnership, yet many sites had Nexus last weekend. Additionally, more college coaches attend Showdown than Jamboree which is why the competition at Showdown is always tougher. Plus, tournaments like Showdown are a highlight for those looking to be recruited. The real test will be RCCs.


You just know this is a Freedom PP because Freedom went to Shooting Star Showdown (formerly called SS Easter) and PP said it’s a “tougher” tournament. This is not true at all. DD has attended both Showdown and Jamboree in the past and Jamboree is the better showcase - more college coaches in attendance and better teams. IYKYK. Wouldn’t be surprised if next year Freedom goes to Jamboree instead.




OP here. Not a Freedom parent. Compare the college coaches for Showdown vs Jamboree for this year specifically and I think you’ll see that Showdown had more. Additionally many colleges, DI - DIII, had clinics this weekend so many strong field hockey programs were not represented.

It is a well known fact that many teams, WC as an example, do not send their top players to Showdown or Jamboree. They send the players still looking for commitments. I stand by my statement - RCCs is the true test of the strength of the club for our region.


What’s sad is the top clubs (Freedom, WC) don’t send their top teams (not even their top 2 teams) but small clubs like Washington Wolves, HUSEL, Hymax do send their top talent and they still can’t win the pool they are in. I agree these events or for individuals to showcase for recruitment and not about team winning but you would think local clubs could medal when top clubs aren’t sending their best talent.
Anonymous
Post 04/15/2024 10:33     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Husel U19 is 0 Wins and 3 losses today at SS Jamboree. All those “D1” commits and they still can’t win. Yikes.


Do they even have more than one D1 commit?


Yes, they def do. But I'm not sure how many were playing.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2024 21:56     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Freedom showing at Shooting Star Showdown not great. Next Level did terrible. Warhawks went undefeated. Washington Wolves look like they did fairly well. Better competition this weekend at Shooting Star Jamboree (i.e. WC Eagles, Metro HC, Saints, Husel and Hammers)


Many teams are dealing with absences due to schedule conflicts. College Connection and USAFH have a partnership, yet many sites had Nexus last weekend. Additionally, more college coaches attend Showdown than Jamboree which is why the competition at Showdown is always tougher. Plus, tournaments like Showdown are a highlight for those looking to be recruited. The real test will be RCCs.


You just know this is a Freedom PP because Freedom went to Shooting Star Showdown (formerly called SS Easter) and PP said it’s a “tougher” tournament. This is not true at all. DD has attended both Showdown and Jamboree in the past and Jamboree is the better showcase - more college coaches in attendance and better teams. IYKYK. Wouldn’t be surprised if next year Freedom goes to Jamboree instead.




OP here. Not a Freedom parent. Compare the college coaches for Showdown vs Jamboree for this year specifically and I think you’ll see that Showdown had more. Additionally many colleges, DI - DIII, had clinics this weekend so many strong field hockey programs were not represented.

It is a well known fact that many teams, WC as an example, do not send their top players to Showdown or Jamboree. They send the players still looking for commitments. I stand by my statement - RCCs is the true test of the strength of the club for our region.


Voice of reason here - Showdown and Jamboree are both good showcases for college coaches to watch and evaluate players looking to get recruited. It is not about the strength of the club that is important, although winning looks good, it is about teams and individuals playing well in front of coaches. No need to mention RCCs - nobody cares.


Agree on the first point totally. My response was to the person who pointed out several clubs had poor performances. If you’re looking at the CLUB look at RCCs. Showcases are indeed opportunities for individuals to showcase their talent.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2024 19:51     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Freedom showing at Shooting Star Showdown not great. Next Level did terrible. Warhawks went undefeated. Washington Wolves look like they did fairly well. Better competition this weekend at Shooting Star Jamboree (i.e. WC Eagles, Metro HC, Saints, Husel and Hammers)


Many teams are dealing with absences due to schedule conflicts. College Connection and USAFH have a partnership, yet many sites had Nexus last weekend. Additionally, more college coaches attend Showdown than Jamboree which is why the competition at Showdown is always tougher. Plus, tournaments like Showdown are a highlight for those looking to be recruited. The real test will be RCCs.


You just know this is a Freedom PP because Freedom went to Shooting Star Showdown (formerly called SS Easter) and PP said it’s a “tougher” tournament. This is not true at all. DD has attended both Showdown and Jamboree in the past and Jamboree is the better showcase - more college coaches in attendance and better teams. IYKYK. Wouldn’t be surprised if next year Freedom goes to Jamboree instead.




OP here. Not a Freedom parent. Compare the college coaches for Showdown vs Jamboree for this year specifically and I think you’ll see that Showdown had more. Additionally many colleges, DI - DIII, had clinics this weekend so many strong field hockey programs were not represented.

It is a well known fact that many teams, WC as an example, do not send their top players to Showdown or Jamboree. They send the players still looking for commitments. I stand by my statement - RCCs is the true test of the strength of the club for our region.


Voice of reason here - Showdown and Jamboree are both good showcases for college coaches to watch and evaluate players looking to get recruited. It is not about the strength of the club that is important, although winning looks good, it is about teams and individuals playing well in front of coaches. No need to mention RCCs - nobody cares.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2024 19:30     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Freedom showing at Shooting Star Showdown not great. Next Level did terrible. Warhawks went undefeated. Washington Wolves look like they did fairly well. Better competition this weekend at Shooting Star Jamboree (i.e. WC Eagles, Metro HC, Saints, Husel and Hammers)


Many teams are dealing with absences due to schedule conflicts. College Connection and USAFH have a partnership, yet many sites had Nexus last weekend. Additionally, more college coaches attend Showdown than Jamboree which is why the competition at Showdown is always tougher. Plus, tournaments like Showdown are a highlight for those looking to be recruited. The real test will be RCCs.


You just know this is a Freedom PP because Freedom went to Shooting Star Showdown (formerly called SS Easter) and PP said it’s a “tougher” tournament. This is not true at all. DD has attended both Showdown and Jamboree in the past and Jamboree is the better showcase - more college coaches in attendance and better teams. IYKYK. Wouldn’t be surprised if next year Freedom goes to Jamboree instead.




OP here. Not a Freedom parent. Compare the college coaches for Showdown vs Jamboree for this year specifically and I think you’ll see that Showdown had more. Additionally many colleges, DI - DIII, had clinics this weekend so many strong field hockey programs were not represented.

It is a well known fact that many teams, WC as an example, do not send their top players to Showdown or Jamboree. They send the players still looking for commitments. I stand by my statement - RCCs is the true test of the strength of the club for our region.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2024 12:06     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:Husel U19 is 0 Wins and 3 losses today at SS Jamboree. All those “D1” commits and they still can’t win. Yikes.


Do they even have more than one D1 commit?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2024 09:31     Subject: Field hockey clubs feedback

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Husel U19 is 0 Wins and 3 losses today at SS Jamboree. All those “D1” commits and they still can’t win. Yikes.


Many of those commits are not playing in this tournament.


Husel also cobbles together tournament teams instead of playing teams that connect or gel well together. It's hard to win, even with D1 commits, when the players are not used to playing together or don't have good chemistry.