Anonymous wrote:Wait by “in APE” you mean in a Facebook group? That’s seriously where we are now?? Is the leadership of AEM responsible for every member? The moderators of DCUM responsible for every poster? Give me a break. What a laugh. I thought there was more to this but it is seriously just a person in a Facebook group? That’s the big bad thing? Lol what a joke.

Anonymous wrote:Since we are just going off on irrelevant tangents whose excited about the new ted lasso season??

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Anonymous wrote:^^^school not Schulz

When your phone autocorrects to a RWNJ education hack from PDE. Awwwkward.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Miranda's Twitter seems to be saying "good for him(/them)" without actually saying whether she would support trans students or not when her vote would actually matter.

I hope a lot of people hold her feet to the fire in the candidate forums. Ask questions in a way that will make her put her answer on the record. If she's wishy-washy like that Tweet, I will know my answer. Hopefully Angelo is more progressive than her.

At this point, I'm writing in a candidate. Three DINOs were running, and now we're down to two. I can't vote for either of them. Maybe a true progressive candidate will run as an Independent later. They may win this time too. ACDC jumped the shark with this election cycle.

How is Angelo a DINO? He has his flaws but he does seem Dem through and through.

I definitely wonder about Miranda's Dem ties or at least those of her core supporters. I was in the APE Facebook group during her first campaign. One of the member urged non Dems to be a "Dem for a day" and vote in the Dem caucus.

Well when the winner of the Schulz board race is decided by the Democrat Caucus, what do you expect? That’s the real election. That’s the time to vote if you want your vote to count.

Ok so it sounds like you're perfectly ok with Republicans voting for Miranda in the Dem caucus. Maybe you are one of them? This begs the question of just how many Republican supporters Miranda has? and how many of the "Dems" in her coalition are DINOs?

I am close with people who analyzed the caucus votes. There were under 150 voters in the 2021 caucus that skewed Republican. The number of lies on this thread are astounding.

How do you tell who skewed Republican?

Voter database.

What do you mean voter database? How does that show anything? People don't register with parties in Virginia.

The Dems have a voter database that assesses likely party affiliation. There was a study done after the last caucus to see if claims about Rs voting was true. It was unfounded.

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Anonymous wrote:Flagging that APE is NOT anti trans. The Arlington parent organization that is anti trans is Arlington Parent Coalition - it has NO connection to Miranda Turner or APE.

Miranda is a strong supporter of trans children’s rights, including using the bathroom of their chosen gender. To say otherwise is a blatant lie.

The leader of the Arlington Parent Coalition is in APE, the organization that Miranda founded and led. So given that APE is Miranda's base, this raises questions about Miranda's position on trans rights.

If Miranda is a strong supporter of trans kids using the bathroom of their affirmed gender, as you claim, why doesn't she say so publicly?

This is a lie.

What is a lie? I was in APE and saw the leader of the Arlington Parent Coalition in the group.

Wait by “in APE” you mean in a Facebook group? Is AEM leadership responsible for every member? Is this serious where we are now?

Lol so someone was in the Facebook group and you make assumption that they are tied w APE? Anyone can join the group and stay so long as they are respectful.

So … they were allowed to be in the group because they were there and they were being respectful? Where’s the lie?

You’re acting as though some rando in a Facebook group is somehow related to MT or APE leadership. It’s clear you’re a troll not engaging in good faith. Like many Facebook groups there is not a litmus test on who can join. And, no, I’m not part of APE leadership and I don’t even know who you are talking about but being in the Facebook group means nothing.

PP didn’t lie. The vile anti-trans leader was in APE. Period.

Don’t try to “alternate facts” this.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, there’s nothing hard about articulating a clear stance on this issue. If she’s been unintentionally vague and our concerns are misplaced, I assume her campaign checks in on threads like this and will promptly update her campaign website to express her views with more specificity. She’s a lawyer. I suspect she already chose her words carefully.

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Why so vague?

I think we have our answer. She did not want to come out in full support of trans kids rights. If she wanted to, she could.

This is a big issue for me. I will vote for a 22 year old interloper if he fully supports the Democratic agenda on trans kids rights, anti-censoring etc vs. a DINO who puts parents rights over the rights of trans kids and who is in favor of book bans.

I hope both candidates will clearly state their views on all of this so voters can decide.

What school pyramid is your child in, if you don’t mind me asking?

DP. Why TF would that matter?

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Bc I think the pyramids are v different demographic wise and people don’t always know what families and students in other pyramids are facing. I see the above issues as important but not the number one challenges APS is facing.

Nice language, btw.

Language was appropriate for the probing, irrelevant question.

And that’s a BS answer. The SB doesn’t make rules for only certain pyramids.

As far as I can tell, the school board doesn’t do anything.

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Why so vague?

I think we have our answer. She did not want to come out in full support of trans kids rights. If she wanted to, she could.

This is a big issue for me. I will vote for a 22 year old interloper if he fully supports the Democratic agenda on trans kids rights, anti-censoring etc vs. a DINO who puts parents rights over the rights of trans kids and who is in favor of book bans.

I hope both candidates will clearly state their views on all of this so voters can decide.

What school pyramid is your child in, if you don’t mind me asking?

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Bc I think the pyramids are v different demographic wise and people don’t always know what families and students in other pyramids are facing. I see the above issues as important but not the number one challenges APS is facing.

Nice language, btw.

Language was appropriate for the probing, irrelevant question.

And that’s a BS answer. The SB doesn’t make rules for only certain pyramids.

I don’t understand your point but good luck in APS! It’s not our problem anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Flagging that APE is NOT anti trans. The Arlington parent organization that is anti trans is Arlington Parent Coalition - it has NO connection to Miranda Turner or APE.

Miranda is a strong supporter of trans children’s rights, including using the bathroom of their chosen gender. To say otherwise is a blatant lie.

The leader of the Arlington Parent Coalition is in APE, the organization that Miranda founded and led. So given that APE is Miranda's base, this raises questions about Miranda's position on trans rights.

If Miranda is a strong supporter of trans kids using the bathroom of their affirmed gender, as you claim, why doesn't she say so publicly?

This is a lie.

What is a lie? I was in APE and saw the leader of the Arlington Parent Coalition in the group.

Lol so someone was in the Facebook group and you make assumption that they are tied w APE? Anyone can join the group and stay so long as they are respectful.

So … they were allowed to be in the group because they were there and they were being respectful? Where’s the lie?

You’re acting as though some rando in a Facebook group is somehow related to MT or APE leadership. It’s clear you’re a troll not engaging in good faith. Like many Facebook groups there is not a litmus test on who can join. And, no, I’m not part of APE leadership and I don’t even know who you are talking about but being in the Facebook group means nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, there’s nothing hard about articulating a clear stance on this issue. If she’s been unintentionally vague and our concerns are misplaced, I assume her campaign checks in on threads like this and will promptly update her campaign website to express her views with more specificity. She’s a lawyer. I suspect she already chose her words carefully.

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Why so vague?

I think we have our answer. She did not want to come out in full support of trans kids rights. If she wanted to, she could.

This is a big issue for me. I will vote for a 22 year old interloper if he fully supports the Democratic agenda on trans kids rights, anti-censoring etc vs. a DINO who puts parents rights over the rights of trans kids and who is in favor of book bans.

I hope both candidates will clearly state their views on all of this so voters can decide.

What school pyramid is your child in, if you don’t mind me asking?

DP. Why TF would that matter?

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Bc I think the pyramids are v different demographic wise and people don’t always know what families and students in other pyramids are facing. I see the above issues as important but not the number one challenges APS is facing.

Nice language, btw.

Language was appropriate for the probing, irrelevant question.

And that’s a BS answer. The SB doesn’t make rules for only certain pyramids.

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Hi all - APE Board Member here - our group rules are posted on our Facebook forum if anyone would like to take a look. Bullying comments are not allowed and are deleted or requested to be edited at our request. We strongly encourage respectful debate and disagreement. Our forum has over a thousand parents and teachers who may have different POVs on a wide range of issues (something I think is unique in todays world) but ad hominem attacks are not allowed and respect is required. Also, as we mention in our rules, the forum (aka fb group) is NOT Arlington Parent’s official platform, you can find that on our Facebook page and website at Arlingtonparents.org. We want the forum to be an asset for all arlingtonians as a place to learn from each other, ask for information, etc. Our moderators try very hard to facilitate conversation and dialogue while respecting differences of opinion. Thanks!

That doesn’t change the fact that many of your members were openly bullying teachers, parents, and administrators during the pandemic.

We all saw it so it’s pointless to pretend like it didn’t happen.

Hi Mr. APE Board Member, it's so nice that you don't bully each other in your little group. That's not what people are talking about, and you know it. It's APE members bullying everyone else in Arlington that people don't tend to like.

Hi there, I am actually Mrs. APE Board Member (3/4 of us are moms actually) I fully understand that we were on opposite sides on the open schools issue and we fundamentally disagree on both the timing and need of in-person school and that disagreement was a pretty emotional one for all sides, but I hope that we can look to the future as fellow neighbors and community members now. So, I can only hope that we can come together and work together for students going forward even though we did not advocate for the same things back in 2020. Our group is grassroots and organic with hundreds of parents and teachers from all over Arlington, but I want to also highlight and say not everyone who wanted schools open was in our Facebook group. The small volunteer leadership of APE is unable able to control the actions of every member so I am sorry if you had a negative interaction with someone in the Facebook group. Also, we did realize some folks were being branded as APE even while not in our group so our speakers now say “on behalf of APE” before every speaker to make it more clear. You can see all those remarks here: https://www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org/advocacy-in-action (you will see remarks and letters on the budget, class sizes, mental health counselors, etc.)

We do not condone bullying and have removed members of the Facebook group based on that. What we did try to do and continue to try to do is moderate our Facebook group to have it be a respectful place. Please feel free to join our Facebook group if you want to be a part of the debate and conversation there as I don’t check this site (I was alerted to this thread and follow up post so I came back to respond). Open/remote school was an extremely emotional issue as it affected deeply our children, so I am certain there were tense moments and raised voices and unfortunately likely some hurt feelings, and I’m sorry for any negative interaction you had with someone in our Facebook group. I hope we can acknowledge our differences but see where we agree and focus on those issues going forward for our students and teachers. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Flagging that APE is NOT anti trans. The Arlington parent organization that is anti trans is Arlington Parent Coalition - it has NO connection to Miranda Turner or APE.

Miranda is a strong supporter of trans children’s rights, including using the bathroom of their chosen gender. To say otherwise is a blatant lie.

The leader of the Arlington Parent Coalition is in APE, the organization that Miranda founded and led. So given that APE is Miranda's base, this raises questions about Miranda's position on trans rights.

If Miranda is a strong supporter of trans kids using the bathroom of their affirmed gender, as you claim, why doesn't she say so publicly?

This is a lie.

What is a lie? I was in APE and saw the leader of the Arlington Parent Coalition in the group.

Lol so someone was in the Facebook group and you make assumption that they are tied w APE? Anyone can join the group and stay so long as they are respectful.

So … they were allowed to be in the group because they were there and they were being respectful? Where’s the lie?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, there’s nothing hard about articulating a clear stance on this issue. If she’s been unintentionally vague and our concerns are misplaced, I assume her campaign checks in on threads like this and will promptly update her campaign website to express her views with more specificity. She’s a lawyer. I suspect she already chose her words carefully.

+1

Why so vague?

I think we have our answer. She did not want to come out in full support of trans kids rights. If she wanted to, she could.

This is a big issue for me. I will vote for a 22 year old interloper if he fully supports the Democratic agenda on trans kids rights, anti-censoring etc vs. a DINO who puts parents rights over the rights of trans kids and who is in favor of book bans.

I hope both candidates will clearly state their views on all of this so voters can decide.

What school pyramid is your child in, if you don’t mind me asking?

DP. Why TF would that matter?

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Bc I think the pyramids are v different demographic wise and people don’t always know what families and students in other pyramids are facing. I see the above issues as important but not the number one challenges APS is facing.

Nice language, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Miranda's Twitter seems to be saying "good for him(/them)" without actually saying whether she would support trans students or not when her vote would actually matter.

I hope a lot of people hold her feet to the fire in the candidate forums. Ask questions in a way that will make her put her answer on the record. If she's wishy-washy like that Tweet, I will know my answer. Hopefully Angelo is more progressive than her.

At this point, I'm writing in a candidate. Three DINOs were running, and now we're down to two. I can't vote for either of them. Maybe a true progressive candidate will run as an Independent later. They may win this time too. ACDC jumped the shark with this election cycle.