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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

? divorce rates, deadbeat dads, and drugs were pretty prevalent in the 80s, too. And please.. lgbtq has nothing to do with mass shootings.

Columbine happened pre- social media, and I believe the shooters had an "intact" family.

-50 yr old Christian

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

Yea sure there was “less crime” in the 80’s. Most rapes were church leaders but go live in your alternate universe!

The conversation was about mass shootings but keep on with your anti Catholic rhetoric, bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

Yea sure there was “less crime” in the 80’s. Most rapes were church leaders but go live in your alternate universe!

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

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Once again, answer the question.. why do Principals want SROs? Why did the Blair Principal want the cops there after the incident?

Why do you anti-SROs NEVER answer that question?

Also, why don't you go volunteer in the HSs where there have been some serious incidents and deal with those kids. There are security guards there, but that doesn't seem to be reducing the number of serious incidents. So, why don't you go there and do something about it since you don't want SROs there.

Presumably because they believe the SROs are helpful to them, no? What's your point? Do you support everything principals want, or just this one thing?

My point is that Principals are the ones in the hallways every school day, not you, not Elrich and not the BOE. So, they know what's needed. not you or Elrich. If the Principals say that SROs make the schools overall safer, then I back them up.

Why don't you go volunteer and deal with the 200lb 6' 16 yr old who is causing issues in the classroom.

Sure, but the students are also in the hallways every school day, and the push to remove the SROs came from the students. The students said that the SROs do NOT make the schools overall safer. Do you back them up or not?

Let's think of context here. The students who were vocal about it were largely driven by emotions based on the BLM movement. The students who showed up at the council meetings- this number isn't even 1% of the HS student population. Do you think the other kids who did want the SRO's to stay would risk being socially ostracized or cancelled by standing up and disagreeing with the woke mob? By the way, interestingly enough, the few kids who did speak and said they wanted SROs to stay were black/brown and were from high schools with majority black/brown kids - for example, Springbrook HS. Did they even survey all students? No, they did not. And I can tell you right now as a parent volunteer who does have students at a majority-minority school, there are a lot of black and brown kids there today who NO LONGER feel safe in their building.

+1 It's always the uber progressive loud voice that gets the attention. Very similar to politics. Most of us are middle of the road, not either extreme left or extreme right, but in this county, it's the extreme left that drowns out everyone else. And you are spot on about people not wanting to voice their pro-SRO opinion publicly for fear of the uber progressive liberals attacking you as racist for daring to want SROs in schools to protect our children. Once again... Principals, who work in the schools everyday, want the SROs.

I have to wonder if those anti-SROs students claim *everything* is racist.

And once again, the ^^PP didn't answer the question of whether they would go volunteer in the schools and deal with the troublemakers. Until you have done that, I don't support your assertion that SROs are bad for schools. You should go into those schools and volunteer first, see what goes on there, see how you can manage those kids, then you have my support.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

It is published just Google it or read through all this thread and find the links.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

It is published just Google it or read through all this thread and find the links.

How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

The county council building has security guards, not police stationed there.

Also, I would love to see a security guard harass a lawyer the way coos harass children. They would be gone by the end of the day.