Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's like she's just workshopping different arguments to see how they fly. Now we are onto "we should all be able to satisfy our own risk assessments and the school system should appeal to each individual's specific preferences."

I know this won’t fit your narrative of “one hysterical parent” so you can blindly send your kids into schools to get COVID, but this is multiple people posting.

Point taken.

It can be 100 hysterical parents and it doesn't matter. This isn't a democracy - we all have to follow DCPS and their policies.

That is hilarious coming from the parents who screamed themselves hoarse in temper tantrums about DL all last year.

NO because virtual school is sh!t and it just made our entire family crazy.

Anonymous wrote:The US needs to follow the UK model of education where parents are shut out of the process. Crazy parents are just too much.
Send your kids or don’t send your kids. That is all parents should get to decide. All this anxiety is insane and counterproductive.

Truly. The lack of rational discussion or problem solving over the last year and a half has been exhausting.

But the problem is that I see as much if not more magical thinking among some teachers and administrators. I agree parents so often confuse the issues and misunderstand how public policy works. But some of the stuff I’ve heard from teachers and administrators (including Ferebee) this last year have really given me pause. Especially in DC. There are some ingrained belief systems among educators in this city that basically make common sense policy impossible in many areas. It’s exhausting.

Anonymous wrote:The US needs to follow the UK model of education where parents are shut out of the process. Crazy parents are just too much.
Send your kids or don’t send your kids. That is all parents should get to decide. All this anxiety is insane and counterproductive.

UK parents have the option not to send their kids? If homeschooling is as easy to get approved as in the US, parents aren’t really shut out of the process as they are, for instance, in Germany.

The US needs to follow the UK model of education where parents are shut out of the process. Crazy parents are just too much.
Send your kids or don’t send your kids. That is all parents should get to decide. All this anxiety is insane and counterproductive.

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Anonymous wrote:LA just wrapped up summer school with minimal spread of covid (during a time when Delta was rising fast)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-04/coronavirus-infections-increased-in-lausd-summer-school-but-affected-a-tiny-percentage

What's really wild in that data is that the staff cases make up a quarter of the cases. So the cases are disproportionately staff. Also, to note from that article:

"The vast majority of these cases appeared to have been contracted off campus."

The DCPS cases to date have been disproportionately staff/teachers too (gross numbers are higher for children, but when you look at the rates as a percentage of the kid population vs teacher/staff population, the latter is significantly higher).

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Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll will be eating your words in a few weeks when Delta rips through DC schools and we have a bunch of hospitalized children.

Zero kids in DC have died of COVID, and the virulence hasn't changed. So, 100% recovery.

Fearmongering.

If Delta is as contagious as chicken pox - 35 million kids in the US under the age of 12 will catch it. At current rates, 47,000 will get it very badly, and 24,000 will die. Maybe more.

Some will be from DC.

Yeeeah you're going to need to show your work there.

btw the “as contagious as chicken pox” thing was false.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/11/1026190062/covid-delta-variant-transmission-cdc-chickenpox

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Anonymous wrote:LA just wrapped up summer school with minimal spread of covid (during a time when Delta was rising fast)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-04/coronavirus-infections-increased-in-lausd-summer-school-but-affected-a-tiny-percentage

What's really wild in that data is that the staff cases make up a quarter of the cases. So the cases are disproportionately staff. Also, to note from that article:

"The vast majority of these cases appeared to have been contracted off campus."

I’ve been yelling on here about adults as a vector for months. All adults need to be vaccinated - none of this “test or vax” stuff. A single poorly educated anti-vax security guard or para does not have the right to bring covid in schools.

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I agree. It's the future of education anyway.

For the masses in public school, yes, virtual instruction is the future. The elites will continue to enroll their precious darlings in private schools touting evidence based curriculums that emphasize experiential learning and small class sizes. As class/access becomes paramount, these well educated, highly intelligent elites will marry and breed with each other. The chasm between the haves and the have nots, will continue to grow wider.

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Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll will be eating your words in a few weeks when Delta rips through DC schools and we have a bunch of hospitalized children.

Zero kids in DC have died of COVID, and the virulence hasn't changed. So, 100% recovery.

Fearmongering.

If Delta is as contagious as chicken pox - 35 million kids in the US under the age of 12 will catch it. At current rates, 47,000 will get it very badly, and 24,000 will die. Maybe more.

Some will be from DC.

Yeeeah you're going to need to show your work there.

Yeah, it's not more deadly than the flu, and in a "high" year, less than 200 children in the US die from it. Twenty-four thousand is a number not supported by any researcher or expert. This person is doing deliberately screwy math in order to freak people out.

Anonymous wrote:LA just wrapped up summer school with minimal spread of covid (during a time when Delta was rising fast)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-04/coronavirus-infections-increased-in-lausd-summer-school-but-affected-a-tiny-percentage

What's really wild in that data is that the staff cases make up a quarter of the cases. So the cases are disproportionately staff. Also, to note from that article:

"The vast majority of these cases appeared to have been contracted off campus."

Anonymous wrote:Nature article on death rates in the UK for the period for March 2020 - Feb 2021. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

25 deaths / 2,000,000 kids = 0.0000125 or 0.00125%

Note that's not the case-fatality rate. That's the number of covid deaths divided by the number of kids.

Elsewhere the authors of the original studies noted that nothing had changed with delta in the UK. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717

"Although this data covers up to February 2021, this hasn't changed recently with the Delta variant. We hope this data will be reassuring for children and young people and their families."

Editing. Nature article says 2/1,000,000 = 0.0002% is the death rate (lower than what I stated above). Man, I need better glasses.

LA just wrapped up summer school with minimal spread of covid (during a time when Delta was rising fast)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-04/coronavirus-infections-increased-in-lausd-summer-school-but-affected-a-tiny-percentage

Nature article on death rates in the UK for the period for March 2020 - Feb 2021. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

25 deaths / 2,000,000 kids = 0.0000125 or 0.00125%

Note that's not the case-fatality rate. That's the number of covid deaths divided by the number of kids.

Elsewhere the authors of the original studies noted that nothing had changed with delta in the UK. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717

"Although this data covers up to February 2021, this hasn't changed recently with the Delta variant. We hope this data will be reassuring for children and young people and their families."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ya’ll will be eating your words in a few weeks when Delta rips through DC schools and we have a bunch of hospitalized children.

Zero kids in DC have died of COVID, and the virulence hasn't changed. So, 100% recovery.

Fearmongering.

If Delta is as contagious as chicken pox - 35 million kids in the US under the age of 12 will catch it. At current rates, 47,000 will get it very badly, and 24,000 will die. Maybe more.

Some will be from DC.

Yeeeah you're going to need to show your work there.