Anonymous wrote: Biden is a “weekend at Bernies” President

What does this even mean?

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

The problem is that there's a very vocal part of the community mad about the numbers we're at. They can't do anything about bars, restaurants, and other businesses, so they're taking their anger out on kids and schools.

Those vocal folks can do something. They can behave in a way and make their own choices so we can go back. They shouldn't need the government to tell them what to do. They can do carry out only, shop for necessities only and limit social contact. Instead they'd rather organize unsafe mass protests as they cannot handle their kids all day. If we as a society decided schools were a priority things would look different. I don't take anyone seriously who demand going back to school in person and their life choices don't reflect it.

This is probably the most disingenuous post I've ever read on these boards. Only government can mandate the type of policy it'd take to drive numbers to the hypothetical that you'd want them to return to school. Any one individual, such as a parent who really wants their kid back in school, doesn't even begin to move the needle. Seriously, you should be ashamed of what you just wrote because it's complete propaganda and disinformation.

I'm not ashamed of what I wrote because individuals need to take personal responsibility and not look toward our government, who cannot show leadership, to make good choices for everyone. If you want your kids back to school, you need to look at how your behaviors and actions contribute to the problem and adjust them. Numbers will go up if schools open.

Again, you're being completely disingenuous. This is part of what government does. Set policy to guide behavior. Otherwise, are you saying that we need 1.1M MC residents to all individually make the same collective decisions to enable school (even though hundreds of thousands of those residents aren't currently impacted by school)? I mean it's just an asinine POV.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

The problem is that there's a very vocal part of the community mad about the numbers we're at. They can't do anything about bars, restaurants, and other businesses, so they're taking their anger out on kids and schools.

Those vocal folks can do something. They can behave in a way and make their own choices so we can go back. They shouldn't need the government to tell them what to do. They can do carry out only, shop for necessities only and limit social contact. Instead they'd rather organize unsafe mass protests as they cannot handle their kids all day. If we as a society decided schools were a priority things would look different. I don't take anyone seriously who demand going back to school in person and their life choices don't reflect it.

This is probably the most disingenuous post I've ever read on these boards. Only government can mandate the type of policy it'd take to drive numbers to the hypothetical that you'd want them to return to school. Any one individual, such as a parent who really wants their kid back in school, doesn't even begin to move the needle. Seriously, you should be ashamed of what you just wrote because it's complete propaganda and disinformation.

I'm not ashamed of what I wrote because individuals need to take personal responsibility and not look toward our government, who cannot show leadership, to make good choices for everyone. If you want your kids back to school, you need to look at how your behaviors and actions contribute to the problem and adjust them. Numbers will go up if schools open.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

The problem is that there's a very vocal part of the community mad about the numbers we're at. They can't do anything about bars, restaurants, and other businesses, so they're taking their anger out on kids and schools.

Those vocal folks can do something. They can behave in a way and make their own choices so we can go back. They shouldn't need the government to tell them what to do. They can do carry out only, shop for necessities only and limit social contact. Instead they'd rather organize unsafe mass protests as they cannot handle their kids all day. If we as a society decided schools were a priority things would look different. I don't take anyone seriously who demand going back to school in person and their life choices don't reflect it.

This is probably the most disingenuous post I've ever read on these boards. Only government can mandate the type of policy it'd take to drive numbers to the hypothetical that you'd want them to return to school. Any one individual, such as a parent who really wants their kid back in school, doesn't even begin to move the needle. Seriously, you should be ashamed of what you just wrote because it's complete propaganda and disinformation.

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Anonymous wrote:January 2022 at the earliest

I think we'll go back in the Fall. (someone who likes DL)

I certainly could see an attempt to do so. My gut feeling though? 1/4 of students who were in public school in February 2020 will never return to brick and mortar public school. They’ll do private, home school, or DL. Another 1/4 will likely end up in hybrid. The rest will find their way back to physical classrooms that are less crowded, but also more geared to the student with SN, the ELL, or the child from an economically distressed family that needs free childcare and two meals a day.

Well, a little over 1% currently haven't returned so your theory seems unlikely.

Where do you live that only a little over 1% of students have not returned to brick and mortar schools? Russia?

Reading comprehension fail.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

The problem is that there's a very vocal part of the community mad about the numbers we're at. They can't do anything about bars, restaurants, and other businesses, so they're taking their anger out on kids and schools.

Those vocal folks can do something. They can behave in a way and make their own choices so we can go back. They shouldn't need the government to tell them what to do. They can do carry out only, shop for necessities only and limit social contact. Instead they'd rather organize unsafe mass protests as they cannot handle their kids all day. If we as a society decided schools were a priority things would look different. I don't take anyone seriously who demand going back to school in person and their life choices don't reflect it.

This. If everyone would:
-wear masks outside whenever they are near anyone else
-wear masks inside, unless it's in your own house
-stop all social gatherings
-stop all travel
-stop all inside dining and drinking

The kids could go back to school. People refuse to do this, and parents are some of the biggest offenders, at least in my neighborhood.

If you aren't doing everything on the list above, education isn't really your priority.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

How do you propose this be done. We don't have enough sinks for hand washing. Kids rarely washed their hands in school before even if they had recess then lunch. Many schools are outdated and don't have an HVAC. They are outdated, overcrowded and space is an issue. Who will do the cleanings? Are you volunteering to help? What do the cleaning look like? We don't have enough teachers to do DL and F2F. We have up to 35 students per class. Maybe in elementary but not in middle or high schools.

That's a plan to set us up for failure and not a plan based on any reality.

You don't talk about regular testing, what happens when there is a positive at school? Who is cleaning? What they will use to clean (do you want chemicals just sprayed everywhere that can be injected by kids)? Class sizes? Many more issues that you are minimizing.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

The problem is that there's a very vocal part of the community mad about the numbers we're at. They can't do anything about bars, restaurants, and other businesses, so they're taking their anger out on kids and schools.

Those vocal folks can do something. They can behave in a way and make their own choices so we can go back. They shouldn't need the government to tell them what to do. They can do carry out only, shop for necessities only and limit social contact. Instead they'd rather organize unsafe mass protests as they cannot handle their kids all day. If we as a society decided schools were a priority things would look different. I don't take anyone seriously who demand going back to school in person and their life choices don't reflect it.

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Anonymous wrote:January 2022 at the earliest

I think we'll go back in the Fall. (someone who likes DL)

I certainly could see an attempt to do so. My gut feeling though? 1/4 of students who were in public school in February 2020 will never return to brick and mortar public school. They’ll do private, home school, or DL. Another 1/4 will likely end up in hybrid. The rest will find their way back to physical classrooms that are less crowded, but also more geared to the student with SN, the ELL, or the child from an economically distressed family that needs free childcare and two meals a day.

You are assuming we will be offered a hybrid or DL. I don't see how that's realistic to do all that. MCPS is providing meals and there are child care options. Its often no the economically distressed families complaining and its the wealthier ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

The problem is that there's a very vocal part of the community mad about the numbers we're at. They can't do anything about bars, restaurants, and other businesses, so they're taking their anger out on kids and schools.

Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

A very big exception.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.

Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.

the point is, even with people doing all of the above, the numbers have not skyrocketed. Require masks, hand wash/sanitize breaks, frequent cleaning of high touch surfaces.. HVAC in the schools is designed, to code, to circulate in outside air.
but before doing any of the above, mcps needs to survey the parents to have an idea of which families are returning and which will do f2f. the fact that this hasn't happened proves that they have no idea what they are doing.

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Anonymous wrote:January 2022 at the earliest

I think we'll go back in the Fall. (someone who likes DL)

I certainly could see an attempt to do so. My gut feeling though? 1/4 of students who were in public school in February 2020 will never return to brick and mortar public school. They’ll do private, home school, or DL. Another 1/4 will likely end up in hybrid. The rest will find their way back to physical classrooms that are less crowded, but also more geared to the student with SN, the ELL, or the child from an economically distressed family that needs free childcare and two meals a day.

Well, a little over 1% currently haven't returned so your theory seems unlikely.

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Anonymous wrote:January 2022 at the earliest

I think we'll go back in the Fall. (someone who likes DL)

I certainly could see an attempt to do so. My gut feeling though? 1/4 of students who were in public school in February 2020 will never return to brick and mortar public school. They’ll do private, home school, or DL. Another 1/4 will likely end up in hybrid. The rest will find their way back to physical classrooms that are less crowded, but also more geared to the student with SN, the ELL, or the child from an economically distressed family that needs free childcare and two meals a day.

MCPS will not be the only local district closed. They have to put out some sort of effort even if it’s only elementary.