Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:41
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Does anyone have a resource that lists all of the "nothingburger" coincidences of Trump Campaign/Russia contacts? A timeline or roster of people who did what when?
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:40
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:I think all this talk about whether is it legal or not is a red herring. The question is: is it moral? Whether it is legal or not, do we really want a culture that says it is morally okay to solicit hostile powers for help?
I respectfully disagree. The legality is important because we are a nation built on rule of law. And the illegality is covered in the constitution. This is not a matter of violating some part of the tax code where lawyers can argue definitions. Interference by foreign powers was very much at the forefront of our founding fathers' minds.
The morality aspect is important because these are the people representing us. All of us whether or not we voted for them.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:39
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.
The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?
The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.
And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.
Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.
More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.
Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.
False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again
Soliciting a thing of value from a foreign power in violation of federal election law? Ding ding ding.
Name the item of value.
Read th d*nm thread (spoiler alert: oppo research)(another spolier alert: it does not matter if he actually got any dirt). Smh
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:33
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:What concerns me are the reports that the FBI either didn't know about this meeting or at least, didn't know about these emails. Kinda worried what else they/Mueller may be missing?
As the reporters were saying yesterday, nobody has just asked DJT Jr. They've asked sources, followed leads, but never asked Jr himself. I doubt that the FBI is far enough along to interview or subpoena him yet. So they haven't asked him either.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:31
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
What concerns me are the reports that the FBI either didn't know about this meeting or at least, didn't know about these emails. Kinda worried what else they/Mueller may be missing?
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:27
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff Toobin said, in fairness, no laws were broken.
I said it here yesterday.
FEC Commissioner Weintraub is jet-lagged from her foreign paid for trips and was unavailable for response. Just kidding.
That makes you both fools. Jared Kushner failing to disclose this meeting on his SF-86 is a prima facie count of 18 USC 1001. There are many, many other potential charges in play including conspiracy to violate federal election laws. There are too many others to list, although many are listed upthread.
Mueller already has 15 top notch prosecutors working with him. Trump Jr's and Jared's begging for Russian government dirt is just the tip of the iceberg. Drip drip drip to the most ineffective presidency in US history.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:26
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:I think all this talk about whether is it legal or not is a red herring. The question is: is it moral? Whether it is legal or not, do we really want a culture that says it is morally okay to solicit hostile powers for help?
Do we throw people in jail over morality? Remember, Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for immoral behavior.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:25
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
I think all this talk about whether is it legal or not is a red herring. The question is: is it moral? Whether it is legal or not, do we really want a culture that says it is morally okay to solicit hostile powers for help?
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:24
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the Russians wanted to influence the American presidential election, they did not need Donny Trump. At the time of the June 2016 meeting, they apparently already had the DNC emails and had no problems getting them in the public domain over the summer thanks to the dutiful mainstream media that will report on just about any leak.
The meeting with the Russian lawyer seems more likely designed to cultivate a relationship with the Trump family but it did not work. Jared apparently walked out of the meeting after 5-10 minutes. And Donny Trump did not follow up on the alleged evidence adverse to Hillary or her campaign. Where's the scandal?
The scandal is that Donny Jr. accepted a meeting with a foreign representative who he admits promised him dirt on his father's opponent and that's exactly why he met with her. That's against the law. Just that he accepted and met with this person.
And the other scandal is people like you, purported "Americans" (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN) who have no problem with this behavior. You have become what you say you hate. Swamp thing.
Name the maw or regulation broken please. I want the specifics.
More to the post by, no "dirt" was exchanged.
Again, if you get caught soliciting a prostitute, it doesn't matter if you actually get your willy wet.
False equivalence. Soliciting sex is a crime, talking to someone from Russia not. Try again
Soliciting a thing of value from a foreign power in violation of federal election law? Ding ding ding.
Name the item of value.
Opposition research is certainly a thing of value. Consulting firms who do this charge big $$$. And whether or not Donnie Jr. got anything, he thought he was getting something and that is the problem. That's where he potentially broke the law.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:20
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Jeff Toobin said, in fairness, no laws were broken.
I said it here yesterday.
FEC Commissioner Weintraub is jet-lagged from her foreign paid for trips and was unavailable for response. Just kidding.
Where does Toobin say that? Link please.
Here is Toobin's column from yesterday, and it says nothing like what you're claiming. https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/are-donald-trump-jrs-e-mails-about-meeting-with-a-russian-lawyer-evidence-of-a-crime/amp In fact, it walks through many potential crimes this message suggests.
Sounds like you trumpers are lying once again. Can't you ever tell the truth even about obvious stuff??? No wonder you believe in fake news.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:11
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Jeff Toobin said, in fairness, no laws were broken.
I said it here yesterday.
FEC Commissioner Weintraub is jet-lagged from her foreign paid for trips and was unavailable for response. Just kidding.
Simply untrue. 11 CFR 110.20: contributions, funds or anything of value may not be solicited or provided by foreign nationals, whether provided directly or through a conduit or intermediary.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 08:09
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Jeff Toobin said, in fairness, no laws were broken.
I said it here yesterday.
Some disagree: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/trump-jr-russia-email/533304
Anonymous
07/12/2017 07:54
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not matter if it can be proven if Trump Jr. solicited Russia or not. Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner failed to record the meeting on the SF86 UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY. Game. Set. Match.
Didn’t this story come to light because Kushner put this meeting on his SF86?
No. It came to light after he scrambled to amend his lying ass SF86 that listed NO FOREIGN CONTACT at all.
You mean he had to amend it yet again. It's what crooks do.
Yes. And of course Kellyanne is out there acting like this is done routinely all the time.
No point in shooting the messenger anymore. Even she's probably tired of lying for a living.
Her position isn't mandatory. She's free to leave the White House at any time if the lying weighs too heavily on her conscience. As long as she stands in front of a tv camera willing to defend it, she's complicit.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 07:46
Subject: Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Jeff Toobin said, in fairness, no laws were broken.
I said it here yesterday.
FEC Commissioner Weintraub is jet-lagged from her foreign paid for trips and was unavailable for response. Just kidding.
That makes you both fools. Jared Kushner failing to disclose this meeting on his SF-86 is a prima facie count of 18 USC 1001. There are many, many other potential charges in play including conspiracy to violate federal election laws. There are too many others to list, although many are listed upthread.
Anonymous
07/12/2017 07:28
Subject: Re:Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It may not matter if it can be proven if Trump Jr. solicited Russia or not. Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner failed to record the meeting on the SF86 UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY. Game. Set. Match.
Didn’t this story come to light because Kushner put this meeting on his SF86?
No. It came to light after he scrambled to amend his lying ass SF86 that listed NO FOREIGN CONTACT at all.
You mean he had to amend it yet again. It's what crooks do.
Yes. And of course Kellyanne is out there acting like this is done routinely all the time.
No point in shooting the messenger anymore. Even she's probably tired of lying for a living.