You clearly haven't actually READ the standards. They build step by step, with foundational building blocks at each step.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, pitch in on the effort to abolish standards and testing so that we can go back to PRETENDING and LYING that everything is just fine with our educational system.

"'Murka: We're Number One In The World!" just like some North Korean propaganda...

Lovely.

I think I'm done here. Clearly, our Common Core supporter has totally lost it. Sad that we cannot have a discussion about this. I, for one, have given blood, sweat, and tears to children at the bottom of the gap. It is really sad that people think pouring money into Common Core and Pearson is going to help. All that money could have been put to much better use. My suggestion would be to start with some type of program to help poor parents with new babies become educated about how to help their kids prior to Head Start, etc. Instead, we are lining the pockets of the publishers and consortiums.

Again, nothing but yet another deflection and the same stale old things that have already been addressed many times over. The issues of low-income parenting is a totally separate and different one that was never and has never been tied programmatically to academic standards or testing let alone funding for those, whether Common Core or EVER prior to that.

You talk about "ALL THAT MONEY" yet it was already shown that, averaged out per school district, "ALL THAT MONEY" would only amount to a one-time infusion of around $6,000 dollars per district. Sorry, but you are quite thoroughly delusional if you even remotely think that would have been enough money to do anything meaningful with Head Start or programs for poor parents.

Yes, you are done here, because you are out of material, you clearly are not thinking any of this stuff through, and your arguments go nowhere.

No problem. There are many more Common Core haters here, and we'll go head to head with you, now until the "standards" are gone.

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You talk about "ALL THAT MONEY" yet it was already shown that, averaged out per school district, "ALL THAT MONEY" would only amount to a one-time infusion of around $6,000 dollars per district

You are not counting how much the districts spend on the testing. It's way, way more---millions per district in many cases. The problem is that the feds don't reimburse the districts for those costs. They only gave them $6,000. Pathetic.

Anonymous wrote:The problem with the Common Core standards is that it ignores the fact that you help a child learn by starting with what they DO know and work up. The Common Core standards were written from the top down. That is a foundational fact in education: you go from the known to the unknown. Unfortunately, the people who wrote the standards were not experienced in teaching young children.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is this supposed evidence?

Where is your documentation of the criteria used to assess Common Core standards to determine that they are developmentally inappropriate? Where is your data to support your made-up claims about Common Core only being appropriate for the "top 30%?"

WHERE IS THE DATA? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? PROVIDE CITATIONS!

It's all here. Massive failure rates predicted for all students, but especially those of color or with any disability.

Straight from Smarter Balanced.

http://www.smarterbalanced.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Disaggregated-FieldTestDataFINAL.pdf

Achievement gaps are not new, nor are they caused by or the fault of testing, nor are they caused by or the fault of Common Core.

Yet apparently you think that abolishing testing and standards will somehow change that.

Who does well on these tests? Typically white girls and Asian students. Then white boys, when you get to older grades in math.

These tests are biased toward a certain type of student.

Common Core is not going to be a fix for that.

The issues of low-income parenting is a totally separate and different one that was never and has never been tied programmatically to academic standards or testing let alone funding for those, whether Common Core or EVER prior to that.

You talk about "ALL THAT MONEY" yet it was already shown that, averaged out per school district, "ALL THAT MONEY" would only amount to a one-time infusion of around $6,000 dollars per district

The issues of low-income parenting is a totally separate and different one that was never and has never been tied programmatically to academic standards or testing let alone funding for those, whether Common Core or EVER prior to that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this supposed evidence?

Where is your documentation of the criteria used to assess Common Core standards to determine that they are developmentally inappropriate? Where is your data to support your made-up claims about Common Core only being appropriate for the "top 30%?"

WHERE IS THE DATA? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? PROVIDE CITATIONS!

It's all here. Massive failure rates predicted for all students, but especially those of color or with any disability.

Straight from Smarter Balanced.

http://www.smarterbalanced.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Disaggregated-FieldTestDataFINAL.pdf

Achievement gaps are not new, nor are they caused by or the fault of testing, nor are they caused by or the fault of Common Core.

Yet apparently you think that abolishing testing and standards will somehow change that.

More than you, because at least I'm in favor of assessing it, shining a light on it, getting the data out there, and trying to figure out and fix what's wrong with our curriculum to make the appropriate changes - whereas you're just out there saying "don't rock the boat, everything's fine, we'll be just great if we just turn that spotlight off and go back to pretending."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, pitch in on the effort to abolish standards and testing so that we can go back to PRETENDING and LYING that everything is just fine with our educational system.

"'Murka: We're Number One In The World!" just like some North Korean propaganda...

Lovely.

I think I'm done here. Clearly, our Common Core supporter has totally lost it. Sad that we cannot have a discussion about this. I, for one, have given blood, sweat, and tears to children at the bottom of the gap. It is really sad that people think pouring money into Common Core and Pearson is going to help. All that money could have been put to much better use. My suggestion would be to start with some type of program to help poor parents with new babies become educated about how to help their kids prior to Head Start, etc. Instead, we are lining the pockets of the publishers and consortiums.

Again, nothing but yet another deflection and the same stale old things that have already been addressed many times over. The issues of low-income parenting is a totally separate and different one that was never and has never been tied programmatically to academic standards or testing let alone funding for those, whether Common Core or EVER prior to that.

You talk about "ALL THAT MONEY" yet it was already shown that, averaged out per school district, "ALL THAT MONEY" would only amount to a one-time infusion of around $6,000 dollars per district. Sorry, but you are quite thoroughly delusional if you even remotely think that would have been enough money to do anything meaningful with Head Start or programs for poor parents.

Yes, you are done here, because you are out of material, you clearly are not thinking any of this stuff through, and your arguments go nowhere.

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, pitch in on the effort to abolish standards and testing so that we can go back to PRETENDING and LYING that everything is just fine with our educational system.

"'Murka: We're Number One In The World!" just like some North Korean propaganda...

Lovely.

I think I'm done here. Clearly, our Common Core supporter has totally lost it. Sad that we cannot have a discussion about this. I, for one, have given blood, sweat, and tears to children at the bottom of the gap. It is really sad that people think pouring money into Common Core and Pearson is going to help. All that money could have been put to much better use. My suggestion would be to start with some type of program to help poor parents with new babies become educated about how to help their kids prior to Head Start, etc. Instead, we are lining the pockets of the publishers and consortiums.

Yes, pitch in on the effort to abolish standards and testing so that we can go back to PRETENDING and LYING that everything is just fine with our educational system.

"'Murka: We're Number One In The World!" just like some North Korean propaganda...

Lovely.