Anonymous
Post 01/03/2015 11:45     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education


You seem to be confusing multiple posters. But at this point, it seems the critic(s) of standards seem to be the ones talking themselves in circles, first having bashed and trashed the standards, saying they were not age appropriate, but then backpedaling and saying no when asked if the standards should be watered down.


Read what you just wrote. You don't see a conflict in this statement?



Anonymous
Post 01/03/2015 11:32     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.


In your classroom, where every kid had asthma, and where it was apparently impossible to teach any of the kids "red" and "blue" and "1-2-3" what standard did you use?

None?


Your reading comprehension is truly atrocious, isn't it?

I have taught Kindergarteners in a classroom setting under the following standards:

The old DCPS standards

The NCTM standards

The new DCPS standards, which were basically the MA state standards

The Common Core Standards

I have also had a fair amount of experience with the old MCPS standards as a tutor, but have never taught in a school that used them.

And you?


And none of those prior standards ever had any expectation of kids learning things even as basic as colors or numbers? You are after all the one saying that's too much to ask.

Jeebus H. Christ. No wonder kids have been graduating high school barely able to read, unable to make change, and unable to find the Pacific Ocean on a map.

People like YOU are a big part of the problem, lady.


Oh, just shut up. Please. You are making absolutely no sense and you have been bested again and again by the thoughtful K teacher.

You don't know the first thing about teaching or learning and your every post reveals that. You should be embarrassed. If you aren't, then you an incredibly ignorant. Either way, you are tiresome and need to leave this thread.


You seem to be confusing multiple posters. But at this point, it seems the critic(s) of standards seem to be the ones talking themselves in circles, first having bashed and trashed the standards, saying they were not age appropriate, but then backpedaling and saying no when asked if the standards should be watered down.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2015 09:21     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

And none of those prior standards ever had any expectation of kids learning things even as basic as colors or numbers? You are after all the one saying that's too much to ask.


No one ever said the kids shouldn't learn colors or numbers.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 23:14     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.


In your classroom, where every kid had asthma, and where it was apparently impossible to teach any of the kids "red" and "blue" and "1-2-3" what standard did you use?

None?


Your reading comprehension is truly atrocious, isn't it?

I have taught Kindergarteners in a classroom setting under the following standards:

The old DCPS standards

The NCTM standards

The new DCPS standards, which were basically the MA state standards

The Common Core Standards

I have also had a fair amount of experience with the old MCPS standards as a tutor, but have never taught in a school that used them.

And you?


And none of those prior standards ever had any expectation of kids learning things even as basic as colors or numbers? You are after all the one saying that's too much to ask.

Jeebus H. Christ. No wonder kids have been graduating high school barely able to read, unable to make change, and unable to find the Pacific Ocean on a map.

People like YOU are a big part of the problem, lady.


Oh, just shut up. Please. You are making absolutely no sense and you have been bested again and again by the thoughtful K teacher.

You don't know the first thing about teaching or learning and your every post reveals that. You should be embarrassed. If you aren't, then you an incredibly ignorant. Either way, you are tiresome and need to leave this thread.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 20:10     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Seems like at least one of the arguments here is that we should ignore statistical distributions of students' potential and capabilities, and instead just set standards and curriculum to the lowest common denominator, water it all down and set the bar so low that the child with the most significant impairment can meet them, rather than treating the LD student as the exception to the rule and having something sensible like alternative standards and criteria for addressing LDs.

Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 19:13     Subject: Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:Hey, I found it! 1/1 22:33, two posts, one quoting a previous poster, whom I assume to be the special-ed-certified teacher.

Special-ed-certified teacher: "So you put out a piece of paper with 10 boxes and you say to the kid "write down what I just gave you here". Kid draws 4 blobs for the first 4, and then switches colors and draws six more.

That would be "recording with pictures", which is the standard."

Another poster at 22:33: "Won't work."

Same poster (I assume) at 22:33: "p.s. I taught K kids who didn't even know their colors. Seriously. You have no clue."


I'm the first 22:33 poster (the certified Special Ed teacher), and also the poster of the bolded question above asking for the other teacher on this thread to provide her credentials.

Neither of the other posts quoted here are me. I had assumed they were the same person.

For the record, I have had kids enter my K class who didn't know colors. They didn't leave without knowing them, other than one child with a significant intellectual disability and very little spoken language.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 19:03     Subject: Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Hey, I found it! 1/1 22:33, two posts, one quoting a previous poster, whom I assume to be the special-ed-certified teacher.

Special-ed-certified teacher: "So you put out a piece of paper with 10 boxes and you say to the kid "write down what I just gave you here". Kid draws 4 blobs for the first 4, and then switches colors and draws six more.

That would be "recording with pictures", which is the standard."

Another poster at 22:33: "Won't work."

Same poster (I assume) at 22:33: "p.s. I taught K kids who didn't even know their colors. Seriously. You have no clue."
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 18:02     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.


In your classroom, where every kid had asthma, and where it was apparently impossible to teach any of the kids "red" and "blue" and "1-2-3" what standard did you use?

None?


Your reading comprehension is truly atrocious, isn't it?

I have taught Kindergarteners in a classroom setting under the following standards:

The old DCPS standards

The NCTM standards

The new DCPS standards, which were basically the MA state standards

The Common Core Standards

I have also had a fair amount of experience with the old MCPS standards as a tutor, but have never taught in a school that used them.

And you?


And none of those prior standards ever had any expectation of kids learning things even as basic as colors or numbers? You are after all the one saying that's too much to ask.

Jeebus H. Christ. No wonder kids have been graduating high school barely able to read, unable to make change, and unable to find the Pacific Ocean on a map.

People like YOU are a big part of the problem, lady.


I'm pretty sure that I didn't say that colors or numbers were too much for a Kindergartener to learn? I am wondering if, perhaps, you have it confused which Anonymous is posting what. Can you link to the post that you're thinking of so we can clarify?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 17:29     Subject: Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:Where did the PP say that no previous standards called for kids to learn colors and numbers?


She said that coloring 3 squares red and 7 squares yellow was too hard a standard for kids in kindergarten, because lots of them don't even know their colors yet.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 16:33     Subject: Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Where did the PP say that no previous standards called for kids to learn colors and numbers?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 15:32     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.


In your classroom, where every kid had asthma, and where it was apparently impossible to teach any of the kids "red" and "blue" and "1-2-3" what standard did you use?

None?


Your reading comprehension is truly atrocious, isn't it?

I have taught Kindergarteners in a classroom setting under the following standards:

The old DCPS standards

The NCTM standards

The new DCPS standards, which were basically the MA state standards

The Common Core Standards

I have also had a fair amount of experience with the old MCPS standards as a tutor, but have never taught in a school that used them.

And you?


And none of those prior standards ever had any expectation of kids learning things even as basic as colors or numbers? You are after all the one saying that's too much to ask.

Jeebus H. Christ. No wonder kids have been graduating high school barely able to read, unable to make change, and unable to find the Pacific Ocean on a map.

People like YOU are a big part of the problem, lady.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 12:46     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.


In your classroom, where every kid had asthma, and where it was apparently impossible to teach any of the kids "red" and "blue" and "1-2-3" what standard did you use?

None?


Your reading comprehension is truly atrocious, isn't it?

I have taught Kindergarteners in a classroom setting under the following standards:

The old DCPS standards

The NCTM standards

The new DCPS standards, which were basically the MA state standards

The Common Core Standards

I have also had a fair amount of experience with the old MCPS standards as a tutor, but have never taught in a school that used them.

And you?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 11:34     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.


In your classroom, where every kid had asthma, and where it was apparently impossible to teach any of the kids "red" and "blue" and "1-2-3" what standard did you use?

None?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 09:32     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:They can put blocks together to add all day long, but when it comes to filling in the blank, it becomes very difficult. With objects, not so hard, but once you put pencil to paper it is a different story.


PP, here's a link to a kindergarten Winter Activities packet that has a ginormous amount or fun activities ON PAPER for kids to practice these skills.

http://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Winter-Math-and-Literacy-Packet-NO-PREP-Kindergarten-968647

You have to join teachers pay teachers to get these activities but if you are having trouble teaching the K Common Core math objectives to your K students and the curriculum your school district is giving you isn't helping, try these.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2015 07:58     Subject: Re:Common Core's epic fail: Special Education

Anonymous wrote:

Can I ask you a question again, because I'm wondering if maybe you've missed it the past 3 or 4 or 10 times I asked it. When you taught K for all those years, in the school where kids didn't know their colors and never had asthma, and special educators never ever led the entire class, what were the learning standards that you used? Also, have you ever tried to teach using the Common Core Standards?


I'm also waiting for an answer to that question.