Because my cousin told me that Woton doesnt even have the homecoming dance anymore the first thing we do when we come together as a family is bring that back and continue as one ok

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

As it’s been stated time and time and time again. It will not be the same school when it moves. Initially they will take some students form Rosemont and then probably Fields road, after that the plan is to continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids. How could you possibly think Wootton would be a the same academic level after that happens?

With all of those in the current Wootton catchment attending, that cohort would tend to perform similarly, with similar family engagement (e.g., PTA), academic support (e.g., outside enrichment), and available electives/advanced courses (at least based on how MCPS has allowed such differences to arise among schools thus far). If the added student population from right around Crown happened not to have similar academic/family characteristics, then the school may not have the same average performance (e.g., scores on tests or the like), but the impact on individual Wootton students likely would amout to greater exposure (e.g., socially, though that would be something mitigated somewhat, if not entirely, by personal preference) to those who are not as similar to them as are those from the current catchment.

Moreover, with the regions, the very high performing Wootton-catchment students who would be going to Blair SMCS under the current paradigm will, instead, be staying at Wootton, presuming that it maintains the designation as the STEM magnet for the region. There may also be high performing students who elect to stay instead of going to any regional IB, with RMIB, then in another region. Since the projections driving the options are based on home-catchment student populations (and not on magnet placement outside the home school) those two groups already are counted in the tables, though any net result of the magnets within the region remains unclear.

I haven't seen any plan to "continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids." Per another poster a few pages back, adding the 2031-32 projections for the Option G Wootton population (no catchment change) with the immediate Crown-area population from the same option, where Crown would "serve" around 500 students in the immediate area in addition to being a holding school, would proxy for the projected population if Fields Road ES were added to Option H. That's a bit off, since there is a portion of Diamond ES that is directed to Crown in Option G which would not be directed there with Option H plus Fields Road; in addition, smaller upcoming ES boundary changes may be met with conforming adjustments to HS boundaries, with the effect, again, of remediating projected overcrowding. Even though these two considerations would mean Wootton at Crown would not be overcapacity by as much as the 215 suggested by that poster, it would have no more capacity to "fill the empty spots with more GHS kids" (or Churchill kids, or QO kids, or...).

From Travilah to Fields Road (and everywhere else in MCPS, of course), the school system has no less responsibility to one neighborhood than another in meeting the collective needs of the students, even if the prevalences of the types of need (and the costs of addressing them) differ from neighborhood to neighborhood and school community to school community. Seeking to sequester other communities away from one's own, with the result of better-than-average service for the latter at the expense of worse-than-average for the former is...well, ew.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

Probably just a troll trying to be sarcastic to Wootton families. Most of us can’t even afford one child going to private, let alone 3. If they really have the money to afford 3 private school tuition, then why not buy a house in Whitman? The mortgage would be cheaper than 3 tuitions. Wootton is really not Whitman.

You could but it’s about lifestyle choices. If you can afford a 1-2 million dollar house, you can afford private. Three is also a choice.

Most of Wootton houses are not that expensive and most wootton families are not that rich for private schools. Crown houses are actually more expensive. There are people spent 2 million on crown houses and still go private.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is off the rails and honestly insulting. There is literally half of Rosemont slated to go to Crown. The half that is going is from the Crown area. When my child graduated from Rosemont (and we live in Crown) he was in the ELA/compacted math class that was filled with the highest achievers, many of those who also lived in Crown. My child was in the 99th percentile and I am assuming the others were similar.

As it has been discussed numerous times-The plan is for them to get crown to capacity by adding ~1000 GHS students. Is it written on option H? No, but it’s been brought up at multiple meetings. And they keep saying “Most of Wootton will Probably stay together” so it’s not as clear as you think it is. Also, obviously you are thrilled at this prospect so of course you are for it-it 100% benefits you.

Yep. They love the idea of Wootton moving to Crown because it puts the #3 high school in MD right in their backyard. They didn’t have to buy a more expensive house and their kid will benefit by having lots of high achieving kids around him /her (as compared to today). What’s not to like?

And what’s wrong with that if the PP did want that for their child? Before you jump down my throat, I have no skin in this game, my kids will go to DHS one day down the line but I’ve been watching this topic closely because I want to see what happens with the holding school issue.

Back to the original point- as an outsider watching from the very beginning it seems the Wootton community began all of this controversy by arguing their school should jump the line of renovations and promoting this narrative that the building is in such a state of such shambles it should be moved immediately and is in such poor condition it can’t be used safely. Now we have option H thanks to that.

And the Crown community seems happy with the compromise of integrating their community with Wootton to solve 2 problems with one high school. That’s just how it seems to someone like me who is not too deeply invested either way.

I share similar observation as an outsider. I believe soon after option H was released, Wootton communities suddenly turned the table and claimed that their school is "safe" enough to wait till full renovation at 2035 or later. Crown community seemed to be okay as long as the Wootton at Crown HS include their kids to join them. Now the biggest issues are some Wootton call some Crown Communities kids out as ghetto and gangster and would drag down their Wootton prestige state or national ranking and their prescious snowflakes kids to the drainage with no more bright foreseeable future.

You sound bitter.

And Wootton parents weren't demanding a full renovation right now. They're asking for remediation of current issues. Learn the difference. Then again, you probably know the difference but ignored it to spin a tale that paints Wootton parents in the worst possible light. Clearly you have an axe to grind against Wootton (and people whose kids attend "W" schools).

Of course the Crown community is fine with Wootton moving and their kids also attend Crown. Wootton's loss is their gain.

P.S. It's spelled "precious". If you're going to insult people, at least spell your insults correctly.

They can rename crown Wootton or come up with another w name.

It won't be Wootton anymore. And besides, MCPS won't rename it Wootton because he was a slave owner, so Wootton will cease to exist.

It'll be exactly like Wootton except it'll be in a different building with different students and different teachers and a different name.

About 80% of the students will be the same. As to teachers, you think you're going to have MORE turnover because they no longer get to work in their moldy building??

I think when big changes happen, other changes (like finding a new school or job) also happen.

Perhaps, but it might be a good idea for someone to ask Wootton teachers about their preferences. (Unless, like another PP who was dismissive of the idea of staff being a stakeholder, Wootton parents think their current teachers are replacement-level.)

My main point (because it seems like you missed it) was that, despite MCPS's assurances, almost nothing about "Wootton at Crown" will be like Wootton.

And my point is that if conditions of the Wootton building are as bad as people say, you might see more teacher departures with the rejection of Option H than you would with it.

Not if they remediate those immediate issues. Then the staff will stay. OTOH, MCPS might involuntarily transfer Wootton teachers to Crown to staff up and force the move to Crown.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is off the rails and honestly insulting. There is literally half of Rosemont slated to go to Crown. The half that is going is from the Crown area. When my child graduated from Rosemont (and we live in Crown) he was in the ELA/compacted math class that was filled with the highest achievers, many of those who also lived in Crown. My child was in the 99th percentile and I am assuming the others were similar.

As it has been discussed numerous times-The plan is for them to get crown to capacity by adding ~1000 GHS students. Is it written on option H? No, but it’s been brought up at multiple meetings. And they keep saying “Most of Wootton will Probably stay together” so it’s not as clear as you think it is. Also, obviously you are thrilled at this prospect so of course you are for it-it 100% benefits you.

Yep. They love the idea of Wootton moving to Crown because it puts the #3 high school in MD right in their backyard. They didn’t have to buy a more expensive house and their kid will benefit by having lots of high achieving kids around him /her (as compared to today). What’s not to like?

And what’s wrong with that if the PP did want that for their child? Before you jump down my throat, I have no skin in this game, my kids will go to DHS one day down the line but I’ve been watching this topic closely because I want to see what happens with the holding school issue.

Back to the original point- as an outsider watching from the very beginning it seems the Wootton community began all of this controversy by arguing their school should jump the line of renovations and promoting this narrative that the building is in such a state of such shambles it should be moved immediately and is in such poor condition it can’t be used safely. Now we have option H thanks to that.

And the Crown community seems happy with the compromise of integrating their community with Wootton to solve 2 problems with one high school. That’s just how it seems to someone like me who is not too deeply invested either way.

I share similar observation as an outsider. I believe soon after option H was released, Wootton communities suddenly turned the table and claimed that their school is "safe" enough to wait till full renovation at 2035 or later. Crown community seemed to be okay as long as the Wootton at Crown HS include their kids to join them. Now the biggest issues are some Wootton call some Crown Communities kids out as ghetto and gangster and would drag down their Wootton prestige state or national ranking and their prescious snowflakes kids to the drainage with no more bright foreseeable future.

You sound bitter.

And Wootton parents weren't demanding a full renovation right now. They're asking for remediation of current issues. Learn the difference. Then again, you probably know the difference but ignored it to spin a tale that paints Wootton parents in the worst possible light. Clearly you have an axe to grind against Wootton (and people whose kids attend "W" schools).

Of course the Crown community is fine with Wootton moving and their kids also attend Crown. Wootton's loss is their gain.

P.S. It's spelled "precious". If you're going to insult people, at least spell your insults correctly.

They can rename crown Wootton or come up with another w name.

It won't be Wootton anymore. And besides, MCPS won't rename it Wootton because he was a slave owner, so Wootton will cease to exist.

It'll be exactly like Wootton except it'll be in a different building with different students and different teachers and a different name.

About 80% of the students will be the same. As to teachers, you think you're going to have MORE turnover because they no longer get to work in their moldy building??

I think when big changes happen, other changes (like finding a new school or job) also happen.

Perhaps, but it might be a good idea for someone to ask Wootton teachers about their preferences. (Unless, like another PP who was dismissive of the idea of staff being a stakeholder, Wootton parents think their current teachers are replacement-level.)

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is off the rails and honestly insulting. There is literally half of Rosemont slated to go to Crown. The half that is going is from the Crown area. When my child graduated from Rosemont (and we live in Crown) he was in the ELA/compacted math class that was filled with the highest achievers, many of those who also lived in Crown. My child was in the 99th percentile and I am assuming the others were similar.

As it has been discussed numerous times-The plan is for them to get crown to capacity by adding ~1000 GHS students. Is it written on option H? No, but it’s been brought up at multiple meetings. And they keep saying “Most of Wootton will Probably stay together” so it’s not as clear as you think it is. Also, obviously you are thrilled at this prospect so of course you are for it-it 100% benefits you.

Yep. They love the idea of Wootton moving to Crown because it puts the #3 high school in MD right in their backyard. They didn’t have to buy a more expensive house and their kid will benefit by having lots of high achieving kids around him /her (as compared to today). What’s not to like?

And what’s wrong with that if the PP did want that for their child? Before you jump down my throat, I have no skin in this game, my kids will go to DHS one day down the line but I’ve been watching this topic closely because I want to see what happens with the holding school issue.

Back to the original point- as an outsider watching from the very beginning it seems the Wootton community began all of this controversy by arguing their school should jump the line of renovations and promoting this narrative that the building is in such a state of such shambles it should be moved immediately and is in such poor condition it can’t be used safely. Now we have option H thanks to that.

And the Crown community seems happy with the compromise of integrating their community with Wootton to solve 2 problems with one high school. That’s just how it seems to someone like me who is not too deeply invested either way.

I share similar observation as an outsider. I believe soon after option H was released, Wootton communities suddenly turned the table and claimed that their school is "safe" enough to wait till full renovation at 2035 or later. Crown community seemed to be okay as long as the Wootton at Crown HS include their kids to join them. Now the biggest issues are some Wootton call some Crown Communities kids out as ghetto and gangster and would drag down their Wootton prestige state or national ranking and their prescious snowflakes kids to the drainage with no more bright foreseeable future.

You sound bitter.

And Wootton parents weren't demanding a full renovation right now. They're asking for remediation of current issues. Learn the difference. Then again, you probably know the difference but ignored it to spin a tale that paints Wootton parents in the worst possible light. Clearly you have an axe to grind against Wootton (and people whose kids attend "W" schools).

Of course the Crown community is fine with Wootton moving and their kids also attend Crown. Wootton's loss is their gain.

P.S. It's spelled "precious". If you're going to insult people, at least spell your insults correctly.

They can rename crown Wootton or come up with another w name.

It won't be Wootton anymore. And besides, MCPS won't rename it Wootton because he was a slave owner, so Wootton will cease to exist.

It'll be exactly like Wootton except it'll be in a different building with different students and different teachers and a different name.

About 80% of the students will be the same. As to teachers, you think you're going to have MORE turnover because they no longer get to work in their moldy building??

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Great. Or, get a job and pay for it yourself vs expecting others to fund your lifestyle.

One could say the same for you if you live near Crown and will benefit from a forced move of Wootton. Go buy a house near Whitman, WJ or Churchill if you want a better school.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

As it’s been stated time and time and time again. It will not be the same school when it moves. Initially they will take some students form Rosemont and then probably Fields road, after that the plan is to continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids. How could you possibly think Wootton would be a the same academic level after that happens?

Same academic level? There is a huge range at every school. Not every kid is super bright.

So guaranty Crown will be ranked the same academically as the current Wootton. You can do that, right?

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

As it’s been stated time and time and time again. It will not be the same school when it moves. Initially they will take some students form Rosemont and then probably Fields road, after that the plan is to continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids. How could you possibly think Wootton would be a the same academic level after that happens?

The haters don’t care. They either own a house in Crown, the value of which will increase by trading on the Wootton reputation (in name only) or want to see Wootton destroyed and those evil rich, white and Asian families forced into a school they don’t want.

Wootton families don’t support the move to Crown. Any that do likely live near Crown and fall into the first bucket.

Then stop complaining and take your place in line with repairs and stop being entitled to demand it now when other schools are worse off.

Remediate the immediate problems and we will. There is money for that, but you would rather force a move that isn’t wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

As it’s been stated time and time and time again. It will not be the same school when it moves. Initially they will take some students form Rosemont and then probably Fields road, after that the plan is to continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids. How could you possibly think Wootton would be a the same academic level after that happens?

Same academic level? There is a huge range at every school. Not every kid is super bright.

Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Great. Or, get a job and pay for it yourself vs expecting others to fund your lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

As it’s been stated time and time and time again. It will not be the same school when it moves. Initially they will take some students form Rosemont and then probably Fields road, after that the plan is to continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids. How could you possibly think Wootton would be a the same academic level after that happens?

The haters don’t care. They either own a house in Crown, the value of which will increase by trading on the Wootton reputation (in name only) or want to see Wootton destroyed and those evil rich, white and Asian families forced into a school they don’t want.

Wootton families don’t support the move to Crown. Any that do likely live near Crown and fall into the first bucket.

Then stop complaining and take your place in line with repairs and stop being entitled to demand it now when other schools are worse off.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

Probably just a troll trying to be sarcastic to Wootton families. Most of us can’t even afford one child going to private, let alone 3. If they really have the money to afford 3 private school tuition, then why not buy a house in Whitman? The mortgage would be cheaper than 3 tuitions. Wootton is really not Whitman.

You could but it’s about lifestyle choices. If you can afford a 1-2 million dollar house, you can afford private. Three is also a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

As it’s been stated time and time and time again. It will not be the same school when it moves. Initially they will take some students form Rosemont and then probably Fields road, after that the plan is to continue to fill the empty spots with more GHS kids. How could you possibly think Wootton would be a the same academic level after that happens?

The haters don’t care. They either own a house in Crown, the value of which will increase by trading on the Wootton reputation (in name only) or want to see Wootton destroyed and those evil rich, white and Asian families forced into a school they don’t want.

Wootton families don’t support the move to Crown. Any that do likely live near Crown and fall into the first bucket.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Wootton parent this is utterly ridiculous. Going to have to tap into more of my family money and send my 3 kids to Georgetown prep.

Just because the school is moving 3 miles away? Wouldn't GP be even farther?
Help me understand your logic.

Probably just a troll trying to be sarcastic to Wootton families. Most of us can’t even afford one child going to private, let alone 3. If they really have the money to afford 3 private school tuition, then why not buy a house in Whitman? The mortgage would be cheaper than 3 tuitions. Wootton is really not Whitman.