Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do you think setback isn’t what neighbors will discuss if a hearing happens? The setback is part of the objection - it is too close to another property. That may be among other things, but it is one of the problems.
If they built the addition but six inches narrower, would the neighbors be equally angry?
That doesn't matter. If the dude has violated any codes, then the addition isn't legal. Whether neighbors like it or not is a moot point.
If the county deems it legal in the end, there is little to be done at that point. The addition stays, hate it or not. Now, we can all watch to make sure OTHER codes/laws aren't being violated. Any problems caused for other properties can certainly be dealt with, as well. But, the next step is to continue to pursue changes to code to make sure other neighborhoods don't see something similar happen.
You can fix most code violations.
Building codes, permitting-I may not be using the exact word because I’m not deep into county permits and/or legalese. But if it isn’t as was approved by the county, whether the neighbors like it or not is of no consequence
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do you think setback isn’t what neighbors will discuss if a hearing happens? The setback is part of the objection - it is too close to another property. That may be among other things, but it is one of the problems.
If they built the addition but six inches narrower, would the neighbors be equally angry?
That doesn't matter. If the dude has violated any codes, then the addition isn't legal. Whether neighbors like it or not is a moot point.
If the county deems it legal in the end, there is little to be done at that point. The addition stays, hate it or not. Now, we can all watch to make sure OTHER codes/laws aren't being violated. Any problems caused for other properties can certainly be dealt with, as well. But, the next step is to continue to pursue changes to code to make sure other neighborhoods don't see something similar happen.
You can fix most code violations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What jerks! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean your not terrible for doing it.
Right, what Courtney is doing is terrible. She should be ashamed of herself every moment between now and when she's forced to move out.
There is no legal reason as to why she would be forced to move out. Since her property value will tank she probably can’t move out. She has every right to be furious.
She's sitting on a half million in equity. She'll be ok when she moves.
Why do neighbors have to move? This is dumb.
Also, have you done the math on a move up in this area lately? We bought in this neighborhood when the bigger models were in the mid-$400ks. That was a little over 14 years ago now. Even though our home has appreciated $500K or so, so have all the other homes. We'd have to sink all the profit and more into a move up. So, now you're talking $1M+ homes at an interest rate 2.5-3X what we currently have (we refinanced to do some remodeling and such during the pandemic) We don't want to move further out. Our incomes have NOT doubled or more in this time. And we have no intention of moving somewhere else - this is where jobs are for us.
You act like moving is a very simple thing to do. Maybe YOU have that kind of income flexibility. Most of us do not.
I thought the addition made the neighbor's house unlivable. Won't she have to move?
It didn’t make her house unlivable but it did reduce the value of it and it will be a lot less pleasant to live there dealing with that addition and all that it brings.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What jerks! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean your not terrible for doing it.
Right, what Courtney is doing is terrible. She should be ashamed of herself every moment between now and when she's forced to move out.
There is no legal reason as to why she would be forced to move out. Since her property value will tank she probably can’t move out. She has every right to be furious.
She's sitting on a half million in equity. She'll be ok when she moves.
Why do neighbors have to move? This is dumb.
Also, have you done the math on a move up in this area lately? We bought in this neighborhood when the bigger models were in the mid-$400ks. That was a little over 14 years ago now. Even though our home has appreciated $500K or so, so have all the other homes. We'd have to sink all the profit and more into a move up. So, now you're talking $1M+ homes at an interest rate 2.5-3X what we currently have (we refinanced to do some remodeling and such during the pandemic) We don't want to move further out. Our incomes have NOT doubled or more in this time. And we have no intention of moving somewhere else - this is where jobs are for us.
You act like moving is a very simple thing to do. Maybe YOU have that kind of income flexibility. Most of us do not.
I thought the addition made the neighbor's house unlivable. Won't she have to move?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do you think setback isn’t what neighbors will discuss if a hearing happens? The setback is part of the objection - it is too close to another property. That may be among other things, but it is one of the problems.
If they built the addition but six inches narrower, would the neighbors be equally angry?
That doesn't matter. If the dude has violated any codes, then the addition isn't legal. Whether neighbors like it or not is a moot point.
If the county deems it legal in the end, there is little to be done at that point. The addition stays, hate it or not. Now, we can all watch to make sure OTHER codes/laws aren't being violated. Any problems caused for other properties can certainly be dealt with, as well. But, the next step is to continue to pursue changes to code to make sure other neighborhoods don't see something similar happen.
You can fix most code violations.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What jerks! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean your not terrible for doing it.
Right, what Courtney is doing is terrible. She should be ashamed of herself every moment between now and when she's forced to move out.
There is no legal reason as to why she would be forced to move out. Since her property value will tank she probably can’t move out. She has every right to be furious.
She's sitting on a half million in equity. She'll be ok when she moves.
Why do neighbors have to move? This is dumb.
Also, have you done the math on a move up in this area lately? We bought in this neighborhood when the bigger models were in the mid-$400ks. That was a little over 14 years ago now. Even though our home has appreciated $500K or so, so have all the other homes. We'd have to sink all the profit and more into a move up. So, now you're talking $1M+ homes at an interest rate 2.5-3X what we currently have (we refinanced to do some remodeling and such during the pandemic) We don't want to move further out. Our incomes have NOT doubled or more in this time. And we have no intention of moving somewhere else - this is where jobs are for us.
You act like moving is a very simple thing to do. Maybe YOU have that kind of income flexibility. Most of us do not.
I thought the addition made the neighbor's house unlivable. Won't she have to move?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What jerks! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean your not terrible for doing it.
Right, what Courtney is doing is terrible. She should be ashamed of herself every moment between now and when she's forced to move out.
There is no legal reason as to why she would be forced to move out. Since her property value will tank she probably can’t move out. She has every right to be furious.
She's sitting on a half million in equity. She'll be ok when she moves.
Why do neighbors have to move? This is dumb.
Also, have you done the math on a move up in this area lately? We bought in this neighborhood when the bigger models were in the mid-$400ks. That was a little over 14 years ago now. Even though our home has appreciated $500K or so, so have all the other homes. We'd have to sink all the profit and more into a move up. So, now you're talking $1M+ homes at an interest rate 2.5-3X what we currently have (we refinanced to do some remodeling and such during the pandemic) We don't want to move further out. Our incomes have NOT doubled or more in this time. And we have no intention of moving somewhere else - this is where jobs are for us.
You act like moving is a very simple thing to do. Maybe YOU have that kind of income flexibility. Most of us do not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do you think setback isn’t what neighbors will discuss if a hearing happens? The setback is part of the objection - it is too close to another property. That may be among other things, but it is one of the problems.
If they built the addition but six inches narrower, would the neighbors be equally angry?
That doesn't matter. If the dude has violated any codes, then the addition isn't legal. Whether neighbors like it or not is a moot point.
If the county deems it legal in the end, there is little to be done at that point. The addition stays, hate it or not. Now, we can all watch to make sure OTHER codes/laws aren't being violated. Any problems caused for other properties can certainly be dealt with, as well. But, the next step is to continue to pursue changes to code to make sure other neighborhoods don't see something similar happen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do you think setback isn’t what neighbors will discuss if a hearing happens? The setback is part of the objection - it is too close to another property. That may be among other things, but it is one of the problems.
If they built the addition but six inches narrower, would the neighbors be equally angry?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What jerks! Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean your not terrible for doing it.
Right, what Courtney is doing is terrible. She should be ashamed of herself every moment between now and when she's forced to move out.
There is no legal reason as to why she would be forced to move out. Since her property value will tank she probably can’t move out. She has every right to be furious.
She's sitting on a half million in equity. She'll be ok when she moves.
Anonymous wrote:Why do you think setback isn’t what neighbors will discuss if a hearing happens? The setback is part of the objection - it is too close to another property. That may be among other things, but it is one of the problems.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing the term "variance" is being used loosely. This seems to pretty clearly fit under the special permit process, no?
Sure, but that process is (potentially) lengthy and invites feedback from nearby property owners. There are no guarantees. I had the approval of my impacted neighbor before I ever applied for my special permit and it still took months and was not guaranteed.
It's not guaranteed per se, but there's a clear precedent that would be hard for them to ignore.
Is there a clear precedent that has a similar number of neighbors objecting to the project?
The objections aren't over the six inches, so they aren't really relevant.
Except that it's doubtful a variance will be allowed/granted, given the weight of public opinion against this construction.