Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only 2-3 roster spots will be filled by known ECNL/GA level players not RL tryouts from partner clubs. FVU 10s will be in nobody believes in us mode, I wouldn’t want to play them, keep talking…
Is this a parent or MV/KJ telling a soccer forum about their recruitment plans? Either way, it is nice of you to take time away from attacking the former coaches and giving us something informative.
lol you def dont know mv if you think he'd even understand the use or function of this board.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Typically clubs keep their better coaches and get rid of the ones that don’t do well. Typically clubs don’t get rid of coaches that make it to Richmond. Typically after a year when 100 percent of players/parents from a team going through the college process says they will not return if a certain coach (MV) is coaching again, clubs don’t promote that person to ECNL Director. Typically clubs don’t need to lie about who will be the coach at tryouts.
Yep keep blaming Bethesda for your problems and then you wonder why there is a mass exodus of talent. Typically clubs don’t need to beg the ECNL to step in to stop players from leaving if they actually had something worth staying for.
And typically people are honest, but not here. It was known in early Spring which coaches were out so this was long before playoffs and Richmond. 100% of players did not indicate that as clearly many more chose to stay than go. All coaching slates were known before tryouts (but for 09s the head coach & asst coach were flipped later). Investigations into violations is ECNLs prerogative.
well md soccer doesn’t start until the spring. Are you saying FVU got robbed for players w nothing in return? No hand slaps etc. or are you saying they ecnl is green-lighting midseason swaps if cards areAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Typically clubs keep their better coaches and get rid of the ones that don’t do well. Typically clubs don’t get rid of coaches that make it to Richmond. Typically after a year when 100 percent of players/parents from a team going through the college process says they will not return if a certain coach (MV) is coaching again, clubs don’t promote that person to ECNL Director. Typically clubs don’t need to lie about who will be the coach at tryouts.
Yep keep blaming Bethesda for your problems and then you wonder why there is a mass exodus of talent. Typically clubs don’t need to beg the ECNL to step in to stop players from leaving if they actually had something worth staying for.
And typically people are honest, but not here. It was known in early Spring which coaches were out so this was long before playoffs and Richmond. 100% of players did not indicate that as clearly many more chose to stay than go. All coaching slates were known before tryouts (but for 09s the head coach & asst coach were flipped later). Investigations into violations is ECNLs prerogative.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Typically clubs keep their better coaches and get rid of the ones that don’t do well. Typically clubs don’t get rid of coaches that make it to Richmond. Typically after a year when 100 percent of players/parents from a team going through the college process says they will not return if a certain coach (MV) is coaching again, clubs don’t promote that person to ECNL Director. Typically clubs don’t need to lie about who will be the coach at tryouts.
Yep keep blaming Bethesda for your problems and then you wonder why there is a mass exodus of talent. Typically clubs don’t need to beg the ECNL to step in to stop players from leaving if they actually had something worth staying for.
And typically people are honest, but not here. It was known in early Spring which coaches were out so this was long before playoffs and Richmond. 100% of players did not indicate that as clearly many more chose to stay than go. All coaching slates were known before tryouts (but for 09s the head coach & asst coach were flipped later). Investigations into violations is ECNLs prerogative.
+1. Total BS to claim FVU “lied” about coaches. Check the March 1 Instagram announcing the coaching slate, no NM or ML in sight. Want to follow them? Fine, don’t commit and let FVU offer someone else in the spring.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Typically clubs keep their better coaches and get rid of the ones that don’t do well. Typically clubs don’t get rid of coaches that make it to Richmond. Typically after a year when 100 percent of players/parents from a team going through the college process says they will not return if a certain coach (MV) is coaching again, clubs don’t promote that person to ECNL Director. Typically clubs don’t need to lie about who will be the coach at tryouts.
Yep keep blaming Bethesda for your problems and then you wonder why there is a mass exodus of talent. Typically clubs don’t need to beg the ECNL to step in to stop players from leaving if they actually had something worth staying for.
And typically people are honest, but not here. It was known in early Spring which coaches were out so this was long before playoffs and Richmond. 100% of players did not indicate that as clearly many more chose to stay than go. All coaching slates were known before tryouts (but for 09s the head coach & asst coach were flipped later). Investigations into violations is ECNLs prerogative.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Typically clubs keep their better coaches and get rid of the ones that don’t do well. Typically clubs don’t get rid of coaches that make it to Richmond. Typically after a year when 100 percent of players/parents from a team going through the college process says they will not return if a certain coach (MV) is coaching again, clubs don’t promote that person to ECNL Director. Typically clubs don’t need to lie about who will be the coach at tryouts.
Yep keep blaming Bethesda for your problems and then you wonder why there is a mass exodus of talent. Typically clubs don’t need to beg the ECNL to step in to stop players from leaving if they actually had something worth staying for.
And typically people are honest, but not here. It was known in early Spring which coaches were out so this was long before playoffs and Richmond. 100% of players did not indicate that as clearly many more chose to stay than go. All coaching slates were known before tryouts (but for 09s the head coach & asst coach were flipped later). Investigations into violations is ECNLs prerogative.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Typically clubs keep their better coaches and get rid of the ones that don’t do well. Typically clubs don’t get rid of coaches that make it to Richmond. Typically after a year when 100 percent of players/parents from a team going through the college process says they will not return if a certain coach (MV) is coaching again, clubs don’t promote that person to ECNL Director. Typically clubs don’t need to lie about who will be the coach at tryouts.
Yep keep blaming Bethesda for your problems and then you wonder why there is a mass exodus of talent. Typically clubs don’t need to beg the ECNL to step in to stop players from leaving if they actually had something worth staying for.
Anonymous wrote:Let it go everyone. If this is about the kids, parents on both sides (or Coaches) would have ended this thread 44 pages ago. Good luck to each in their respective seasons. Turn the page. You are embarrassing yourselves and your children.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.
Players leave clubs every year for other clubs or teams. There's a reason there's a tryout period for everybody. This regular movement always occurs in all clubs. But bad optics is the shady shenanigans by BSC once players were already committed and right at season start.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many girls did Bethesda (NM) take from FVU?
A bunch. Question is can FVU post about the openings for girls who’s parents have met their financial reqs and want to switch clubs.
Kind of a big deal imo.
Not that many. 6 girls total from all the age groups
More than this...
5 from the 2010's
at least 3 from 09
2 from 08
3 from 08
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many girls did Bethesda (NM) take from FVU?
A bunch. Question is can FVU post about the openings for girls who’s parents have met their financial reqs and want to switch clubs.
Kind of a big deal imo.
Not that many. 6 girls total from all the age groups
More than this...
5 from the 2010's
at least 3 from 09
2 from 08
3 from 08
One from 08 came last year and went to playoffs with the team. Before Union coaches came
Anonymous wrote:More lies! I assume by follower you are referring to ML. He was not offered and was given a professional 12 hours notice. This is why families signed a petition.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 girls seems like a steep price to pay for firing successful coaches (wins and college players placements). Maybe next time Brave won’t fire such coaches to keep a Brave coaching staff. Sounds pretty shortsighted…
20 plus players have left FVU including some of the top players from 2011, 2010, 2009, and 2008/07. There is a reason why the BRAVE leadership has had more last place finishes than champions league appearances on both the girls and boys side. You can’t fix stupid.
Lol! you mean they tried to take that many players but not everybody drank the koolaid, including the 2 hour commute and 25+ rosters!
I’m a current Union parent. Not all players left for Bethesda. Players left for VDA, Arlington, NVA, MD United, as well as Bethesda.
It was a poor decision not to bring back the coaches but we move on and hope for a good season.
Union didn’t lose actual coaching talent, but the optics were bad. If it was JUST the players leaving to Bethesda, they’d be fine. It’s losing players on top of that to VDA, Arlington, NVA, etc. that is damaging.