Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:52     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many people who receive Medicaid that are able to work. However they don't have the education or job skills to command a position that will come with health insurance as a benefit. And then others choose not to work. Still others are too young to work, too old to work or too disabled to work.

I work with the poor as a case manager and live in this world day-in and day-out.


My understanding is that 65+, 19 and below and disabled are NOT required to work in the new bill.

The problem isn’t work per se. The problem is that working 20 hrs a week 50 weeks a year or so at $25/hr is going to disqualify a lot of people in HCOL areas because they’ll go over the income.


Is it for all 65+? I know some immigrants who became citizens after 65 plus & are getting medicaid benefits. How is this fair? They have not paid anything in taxes & will continue to get medicaid.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:45     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are many people who receive Medicaid that are able to work. However they don't have the education or job skills to command a position that will come with health insurance as a benefit. And then others choose not to work. Still others are too young to work, too old to work or too disabled to work.

I work with the poor as a case manager and live in this world day-in and day-out.


Or they don’t live in areas where there are jobs with benefits available. They don’t have the means or wherewithal to relocate. They’ve lived in that holler their whole life. They’ve never been anywhere else


This is what I was thinking, but these holler residents are the only patients at these hospitals? Maybe these hospitals should employ the holler dwellers for 20 hours a week?
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:45     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
So the Republicans are ignoring the parliamentarian and the debt scoring, pretending that their bill is allowable.

As Durbin says, they are making the filibuster a Democrat-only hurdle. Iow, the filibuster is gone. Republicans have gotten rid of it. Majority votes for everything.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:24     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:There are many people who receive Medicaid that are able to work. However they don't have the education or job skills to command a position that will come with health insurance as a benefit. And then others choose not to work. Still others are too young to work, too old to work or too disabled to work.

I work with the poor as a case manager and live in this world day-in and day-out.


Or they don’t live in areas where there are jobs with benefits available. They don’t have the means or wherewithal to relocate. They’ve lived in that holler their whole life. They’ve never been anywhere else
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:12     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:There are many people who receive Medicaid that are able to work. However they don't have the education or job skills to command a position that will come with health insurance as a benefit. And then others choose not to work. Still others are too young to work, too old to work or too disabled to work.

I work with the poor as a case manager and live in this world day-in and day-out.


My understanding is that 65+, 19 and below and disabled are NOT required to work in the new bill.

The problem isn’t work per se. The problem is that working 20 hrs a week 50 weeks a year or so at $25/hr is going to disqualify a lot of people in HCOL areas because they’ll go over the income.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:09     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


What specific provisions of the bill would make their patients ineligible for Medicaid?


Read the bill. The GOP is installing new barriers to receive monies.


I have - able-bodied must work and no illegals. What else am I missing?


You are missing the requirements they are putting in that create barriers to qualifying. How many people do you know are receiving medicaid who are able to work? Give a rough number in the 10's or hundreds of thousands.


He said able bodied! Nobody is saying 65+ or under 19 must work!
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:09     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
There are many people who receive Medicaid that are able to work. However they don't have the education or job skills to command a position that will come with health insurance as a benefit. And then others choose not to work. Still others are too young to work, too old to work or too disabled to work.

I work with the poor as a case manager and live in this world day-in and day-out.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 20:00     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


What specific provisions of the bill would make their patients ineligible for Medicaid?


Read the bill. The GOP is installing new barriers to receive monies.


I have - able-bodied must work and no illegals. What else am I missing?


You are missing the requirements they are putting in that create barriers to qualifying. How many people do you know are receiving medicaid who are able to work? Give a rough number in the 10's or hundreds of thousands.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:59     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


What specific provisions of the bill would make their patients ineligible for Medicaid?


Read the bill. The GOP is installing new barriers to receive monies.


I have - able-bodied must work and no illegals. What else am I missing?


The 85 year old widow with dementia is supposed to work? Please explain.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:50     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


What specific provisions of the bill would make their patients ineligible for Medicaid?


Read the bill. The GOP is installing new barriers to receive monies.


I have - able-bodied must work and no illegals. What else am I missing?
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:32     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


What specific provisions of the bill would make their patients ineligible for Medicaid?


Read the bill. The GOP is installing new barriers to receive monies.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:32     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
A new cost estimate of the Republican budget bill from the Joint Committee on Taxation estimates that the legislation will increase deficits over the next 10 years by $4.45 trillion dollars.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:14     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
FAFO!! I’m done caring about MAGA screwing over MAGA voters or hoping they gain inteligence & empathy.
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:11     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


What specific provisions of the bill would make their patients ineligible for Medicaid?
Anonymous
Post 06/29/2025 19:02     Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why will the medicaid provisions hurt rural hospitals? Is it because there are no jobs for the able-bodied to do, thus they cannot meet the work requirements? Or is it that illegal alien farm workers / factory workers are on Medicaid in these rural areas?


Because their patients will no longer have any way to pay for care.


...meaning the patients will become former patients, now untreated.