Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 14:02     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:I encourage everyone concerned about this to read the entire police report and make your own assessment. The report can be found here: https://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/11-20-24-Mediaite.pdf

There is a lot of misinformation on this thread. For example, is nothing in the police report about it being part of her job to get him to his room.

I find a lot about the allegation to not be credible but the thing that sticks out the most is that witnesses say she was fine the next day. She says she thinks she may have been drugged. Anyone who has actually been roofied knows that you feel like a train rolled over you the next day.


GHB would not have her feeling that way the next day. Just a smidge and her story makes sense.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:52     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.


100% this - thank you for taking the time to type it all out


I suspect a lil GHB rather than roofie though. Faster/shorter acting and no hangover
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:42     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Megyn Kelly is a lawyer and does not believe the accuser.

Alleged sexual assault happened early Sunday morning between 2am and 4am. Woman is seen on camera arm and arm with Pete going into his room.

The woman didn't go to police until Thursday. She claims she was possibly drugged and didn't remember much of the night.

To me, it reads like her husband was grilling her all week and didn't believe her story about where she was until 4am. Then she claimed she was sexually assaulted and maybe drugged, too.


You're using Megyn Kelly as a source. Do better.


Kelly is a lawyer and was merely distilling the police report.


Can you show us where she is licensed to practice law? She went to law school. So did Jim Jordan.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:37     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.


In other words, a money grab. And what evidence do you have that she AND the husband sued? What evidence do you have they're still married?


If you can't prosecute someone criminally, you can only file a civil tort and the remedies in civil court are financial. It's not a "money grab," it what the law offers if you have to go after someone for a harm on a civil basis, with that basis for evidence, when the criminal system declines to prosecute. It doesn't mean you don't have a case or that you're after money, it means you're after justice and the monetary award or civil penalty is the civil recognition of that (versus the criminal penalty of jail time or fines).
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:34     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.


Roofied. Doesn't remember anything. She was his "babysitter". So of course that meant she had to walk back to and into his room while arm and arm. Give me a break. Nobody is buying this malarkey. The far more plausible story is she got buzzed and cheated on her husband with a hot sleazebag. The end.


Why is it more plausible that a married woman with children whose husband and children were in the same hotel, who filed a police report and a lawsuit with the support of her husband made up a sexual assault accusation, compared to believing that a man who had to be assigned a handler at the meeting to make sure he could get to his room and back, was observed being extremely drunk, was reported that night for making unwanted sexual advances towards women, and is known to have repeatedly cheated on his wives--might have assaulted someone?

I hope you are never on a jury and have to weigh evidence.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:28     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.


In other words, a money grab. And what evidence do you have that she AND the husband sued? What evidence do you have they're still married?
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:26     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Reminds me of the married with kids Mormon woman who was caught cheating with a pro basketball coach. She was also some sort of traveling secretary and babysitter for the coaches and players. It cost the coach his job after the woman's husband found out.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:25     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.


100% this - thank you for taking the time to type it all out
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:24     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.


Roofied. Doesn't remember anything. She was his "babysitter". So of course that meant she had to walk back to and into his room while arm and arm. Give me a break. Nobody is buying this malarkey. The far more plausible story is she got buzzed and cheated on her husband with a hot sleazebag. The end.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:22     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this pick as more proof of trump’s lack of respect for people in uniform.

He wants them led by man who behaves like a dog.


And who fought to protect those who committed war crimes. He has no ethics.


So Netanyahu!

Trump is just organizing a horde of misogynists who lack integrity, and therefore will sign on to any and all unconstitutional acts he asks them to commit . God help our country, which used to be the envy of the world.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:10     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


Exactly!!

Why do you all lower yourselves to Trump’s standards?

These people are OUR leaders, not his frat brothers (see Epstein).
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:09     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely disgusting how quick people are to assume a woman would lie more than they’d believe that a man is guilty. 1 in 3 women is assaulted in their lifetimes. Most don’t file reports. It’s the hardest crime to prosecute because it’s so hard to prove and so many people like PP making it harder.

He is unfit for a number of reasons. Thee are millions of men who have never been accused of sex crimes. Hire one of those. Why is that too much to ask????


In this case, it was a married with kids woman boozing and partying in a hotel with a model-esque womanizer Fox News host until 2am, with her husband and kids in another room, and then she walked back arm in arm into the Fox guy's room for a two hour romp. Then four or five days later she cries assault. Give me a break. I would bet anything it wasn't her first time cheating and the suspicious husband wouldn't let it go.


In this case, it was a married with kids woman staffer for the local Republican party, there with her husband and kids, working a party event and got stuck with the job of babysitting one of the speakers (get him to his room at night and get him up and to his plane in the morning) because they were told that he was going to get drunk, hit on people, and sleep in). Like a good hostess/any woman who has been socialized to deal with drunk men she got him away from the women he was hitting on at the bar and walked back arm in arm into his room and agreed to have a drink (hoping he would pass out at that point) where he--with drugs he had brought with him--roofied and assaulted her while her husband spent the night freaking out and looking for her. After four or five days of back and forth with her spouse about whether or not its worth going to the police--she can't remember anything, there's no physical evidence, she doesn't want to be in this situation with a famous person, the Republican Party people are never going to let her do anything again--she goes to the police and reports the assault. They also decide that given the lack of evidence, there's not much they can go. A couple of years later, following the Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes settlements, she and her husband decided to sue.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:07     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:I see this pick as more proof of trump’s lack of respect for people in uniform.

He wants them led by man who behaves like a dog.


And who fought to protect those who committed war crimes. He has no ethics.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 13:05     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

I see this pick as more proof of trump’s lack of respect for people in uniform.

He wants them led by man who behaves like a dog.
Anonymous
Post 11/22/2024 12:57     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mediaite has the police report.
“The report, provided by the City of Monterey, California, was previously released to Hegseth in March 2021, per his request. It runs 24 pages and details the allegation leveled by a woman who claimed in 2017 that she was sexually assaulted by the cable news star at a Republican women’s conference.”
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/new-full-police-report-details-pete-hegseth-sexual-assault-allegation/


It was investigated and no charges were filed. Her story sounds fabricated and likely motive was she regretted and was remorseful for cheating on her husband, so she decided it wasn’t consensual. Why would a married woman be walking “arm and arm smiling” with another man and going into his hotel room alone, if not to have consensual sex?


Articles I read said the victim was walking arm in arm with him *before* the assault because part of her job at the Republican Women’s conference was to ensure that Hegseth got back to his room. Also, that Hegseth was behaving inappropriately with two women at a bar shortly beforehand and one texted the victim to ask for help because Hegseth was drunk and persistent about taking them back to his room. The victim believes her drink at the bar was drugged and took effect after she delivered him to his room and that’s why she doesn’t remember all of the attack clearly. Her husband and child accompanied her to the Republican Women’s conference and were staying at the hotel with her.

He’s never run an organization of any size.

He’s unfit on both moral and experience grounds.


Her job was to take him to his hotel room? Yeah right. She claimed she doesn’t remember how she got to his room. Every single person that spoke to her throughout that night said she seemed sober and totally coherent.


Did you not read part where she may have had something slipped into her drink?


“May have” yet no one could seem to find any evidence of that.


Yes, thats what roofies are. Drugs that leave you with no memory but are quickly metabolized so they don't show up on a tox screen.