Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 12:55     Subject: FC Virginia

Tournaments market the list of coaches attending. Players reach out to those and any not on a list that they want to have come. They send their schedules to the coaches. Coaches then pick and choose what games they attend, and sometimes it’s a short stay because there are multiple kids they want to see all playing at one time. Sometimes the team itself is a big draw, or the opponents are. There are definitely coaches who were not on a player’s radar who will reach out after watching them play. When a coach replies and says “I can come to your 11AM game,” the players need to make sure their coach knows about that.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 10:08     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.


I bet you that there will be more scouts in the championship bracket than in any other bracket.


That makes since because there is probably more of the players that more colleges are scouting. Again all college coaches have a list of players they are there to see, they're not randomly walking around looking for a match to watch.


Don’t clubs get a list of the coaches who will watch certain games?

My kid is not in MLSNext yet but a parent showed me a list of coaches that were on schedule to watch the matches his kid was on. It was a list sent by the club and there was different list for each game.

And how do you think those coaches came to be on the list? The coaches know which kids they will be watching and the kids know that they will be watching


Yup, I figured and didn’t think coaches were randomly walking arnd looking for games and players to watch.

Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 09:49     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.


I bet you that there will be more scouts in the championship bracket than in any other bracket.


That makes since because there is probably more of the players that more colleges are scouting. Again all college coaches have a list of players they are there to see, they're not randomly walking around looking for a match to watch.


Don’t clubs get a list of the coaches who will watch certain games?

My kid is not in MLSNext yet but a parent showed me a list of coaches that were on schedule to watch the matches his kid was on. It was a list sent by the club and there was different list for each game.

And how do you think those coaches came to be on the list? The coaches know which kids they will be watching and the kids know that they will be watching
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 09:45     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.


I bet you that there will be more scouts in the championship bracket than in any other bracket.


That makes since because there is probably more of the players that more colleges are scouting. Again all college coaches have a list of players they are there to see, they're not randomly walking around looking for a match to watch.


Don’t clubs get a list of the coaches who will watch certain games?

My kid is not in MLSNext yet but a parent showed me a list of coaches that were on schedule to watch the matches his kid was on. It was a list sent by the club and there was different list for each game.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 08:49     Subject: FC Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:FCV has a problem on their hands. What's looking like will be SYCs 2012 GA team looked miles above what FCV currently has at tonights ID session. They better get to recruiting or the next few years will be rough.


Come on, why you beating up on a team that’s clearly going through some stuff. Why don’t you come at the established teams


The established teams have nothing to talk about. FCV is a hot mess.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 08:43     Subject: FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:FCV has a problem on their hands. What's looking like will be SYCs 2012 GA team looked miles above what FCV currently has at tonights ID session. They better get to recruiting or the next few years will be rough.


That’s not surprising. Rankings app has SYC’s existing 2012 team in top 50 while FCV’s 2012s don’t even crack the top 500. Question is whether SYC can keep their top players from departing for the ECNL clubs.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2024 07:11     Subject: FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:FCV has a problem on their hands. What's looking like will be SYCs 2012 GA team looked miles above what FCV currently has at tonights ID session. They better get to recruiting or the next few years will be rough.


Recruit from where? With SYC getting GA, something’s got to give. Only so many girls capable of helping a team be competitive.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 22:25     Subject: FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:FCV has a problem on their hands. What's looking like will be SYCs 2012 GA team looked miles above what FCV currently has at tonights ID session. They better get to recruiting or the next few years will be rough.


Come on, why you beating up on a team that’s clearly going through some stuff. Why don’t you come at the established teams
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 22:08     Subject: FC Virginia

FCV has a problem on their hands. What's looking like will be SYCs 2012 GA team looked miles above what FCV currently has at tonights ID session. They better get to recruiting or the next few years will be rough.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 15:27     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.


I bet you that there will be more scouts in the championship bracket than in any other bracket.


That makes since because there is probably more of the players that more colleges are scouting. Again all college coaches have a list of players they are there to see, they're not randomly walking around looking for a match to watch.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 15:27     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.


I bet you that there will be more scouts in the championship bracket than in any other bracket.


Because those players reached out and got the attention of the scouts (through ID camps, emails, videos, or club coach contacts) versus scouts just happen to look for and find bracket 1 games....
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 15:23     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.


I bet you that there will be more scouts in the championship bracket than in any other bracket.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 15:21     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.


Still doesn't mean they wander around looking for the top bracket....they have their time scheduled and know what kids they're going to watch.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 15:18     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


The kids market themselves. Before players go into showcases or attend college ID events, they're reaching out to coaches giving their highlights, schedules, etc.



My daughter is in RL. She markets herself, but only 1 or 2 scouts come to watch the team.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2024 15:16     Subject: Re:FC Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If that’s the case then why so much talk here about which ECNL/GA teams are better? As long as you are on any of the teams they will be playing at the same events.


Well, everybody wants to be on a winning team, right? It’s fun to win and a lot of parents obviously enjoy bragging about how “awesome” their kids team is. This message board definitely attracts those type of people.

To your point, which I agree with, if your DC is playing in the Jeff Cup showcase weekend, for example, and coaches from a school that they’re interested in and have communicated that interest to are going to be there, they’re going to be able to see your player regardless of whether their team is playing in the top bracket, the bottom bracket or somewhere in between. Yes, the brackets are often spread out among different fields so that may require some traveling, but the point is, if a college coach is interested in you, they’re not going to say “oh no, your team isn’t in a high enough bracket so I’m not going to bother watching you play.” That’s not simply my opinion but rather my experience.



You have some good points. I agree that most parents care about winning instead of their kid's development. However, how does the college recruiter know which kid is good on what team? At Jeff Cup, there are a lot of teams playing. Most likely, the D1 scout will be looking at the top 2 or 3 divisions to spot which player they like. that alone is like 15-20 games for the weekend. I doubt they will be sitting and watching RL games at a lower bracket.


I don't mean this to come off as mean, or condescending, but it's pretty clear that you don't know what you are talking about. College coaches aren't put there "window shopping" in the top 2 or 3 divisions to find kids. They have a list going into the event, with a schedule they plan to follow. The don't just stumble upon games to watch and/or care of the bracket.


I think I know what I am talking about. My point is that the scout will look at the ECNL players first before they move to RL players. The scout want to see the kids that play at the top level first.