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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

Anonymous wrote:How did UMD do? Did they jump UVA?

Or are they now fighting it out with VA Tech for rankings? Pretty sure VA Tech has a 70% acceptance rate. Way to go Terps!

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Anonymous wrote:What are you talking about?

24 < 25

Did you take any math classes in your life?

Anonymous wrote:It is noticeable that all the top publics went up in rankings except for one. Only UVA went down and out of top 25. Wonder why?

No. It’s at 24.

I thought UVA was at 26?

It is at 26. Went from 25 to 26.

No, UVA went from 25 to 24. Go look

It wet down couple spots below UNC on the Best Public Universities list and stayed about the same on the National list so overall UVA went down while all other top publics went up.

No, UVA rose from 25 to 25


in the nation That’s all everyone cares about . https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

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Anonymous wrote:VT is 47
W&M has fallen to 53

UMD gives alot of aid to First Gen, Low income, and URM. This is why they have risen so much in the rankings.

This isn’t about UMD?

dp.. I think the UMD poster is giving an example of why a college could have gone up in the ranks.

Someone posted in another thread that the pell grant factor was only an extra .5% in the ranking. I don't know if that's true.

Yes this is exactly why. Many of the public schools that have surged ie UMD give lots of scholarship $ to lower income students so that they can attend. Take a look at the instagram postings for a school like Wheaton in MoCo. Many students being given full or partial aid by the university. Not saying there is anything wrong with it but UMD

is now at least 50 % URM

. As well, as many other students who are minorities (Asian) from schools like Rockville and z Blair getting help to attend UMD. This must have factored into moving the dial for UMD way up.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you think your state school is on par w a “lower Ivy” and yet all rankings tell you something different, the problem is you

Depends on the state school. UVA is the best school in the South, so it probably is.

Which south are we talking about? The one with Duke, Vandy, Rice and Emory?

Vandy, Rice, and Emory all trended down this year, UVA trended up and isn't stopping anytime soon. Duke is just a basketball school.

UVA trended up to the #5 public.

It’s obvious that a troll is deliberately trying to make UVA look bad.

It's all about momentum. You want your kid to end up at a school that will continue paying off 10, 20 years down the road. UVA is only going up, and based on potential it's the best school in the South. I'm not saying it's the best school everywhere, just the South, which I think is more than reasonable. The extremely loyal alumni base helps kids get top jobs and opportunities anywhere in the country, not just the South. It's law and business schools are also by far the best in the South. Not sure what there is to discuss here.

+1. UVA also rose from 25 to 24 overall in the nation.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys if you think your state school is on par w a “lower Ivy” and yet all rankings tell you something different, the problem is you

Depends on the state school. UVA is the best school in the South, so it probably is.

Which south are we talking about? The one with Duke, Vandy, Rice and Emory?

Vandy, Rice, and Emory all trended down this year, UVA trended up and isn't stopping anytime soon. Duke is just a basketball school.

UVA trended up to the #5 public.

It’s obvious that a troll is deliberately trying to make UVA look bad.

It's all about momentum. You want your kid to end up at a school that will continue paying off 10, 20 years down the road. UVA is only going up, and based on potential it's the best school in the South. I'm not saying it's the best school everywhere, just the South, which I think is more than reasonable. The extremely loyal alumni base helps kids get top jobs and opportunities anywhere in the country, not just the South. It's law and business schools are also by far the best in the South. Not sure what there is to discuss here.

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Anonymous wrote:Tufts is probably being punished because it skews wealthy. Not enough Pell grant and first gen admits.

So, people, if you think it's hard to get into a highly rejective school, it will be even harder now with schools gaming the system and admit more Pell grants and First gen students.

so why is duke up?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still shocked that Michigan and UNC are at 21 and 22. They can't hold a candle too UVA. Everyone in my social circle regards UVA in the same tier as the lower ivies, Michigan and UNC are bottom tier party schools

In terms of UofM, your friends are clearly not in engineering.

+1 Depends on your major.

The vast majority of comparable majors/disciplines at Michigan are either equal to or most often ranked higher than UVA. In my social circle when top academic schools are mentioned, Michigan is often brought up. UVA is never discussed, except as a southern party school.

I'm waiting for the Rhodes Scholar VA booster to appear.

That’s all they got left at the moment. Even KF at UNC is ranked higher than UVA McIntire, now that the latter has dropped 4 spots to number 12.

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Anonymous wrote:There have to be some happy Cornell alums around (Andy Bernard is messaging his friends). They are typically not the lowest Ivy in rankings beyond USNWR and they slid in well above Dartmouth here too.

I'm so over Dartmouth so this makes me happy. I just dont like the smug dean of admissions there and his podcast. So, yeah, I'm projecting

YES!! He is so smug. I just can’t take him seriously. It’s like he drank his own Kool-Aid.

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Anonymous wrote:VT is 47
W&M has fallen to 53

UMD gives alot of aid to First Gen, Low income, and URM. This is why they have risen so much in the rankings.

So UMD bought its way up with new eoneusm and money, Dei staff and Pell’s grants. What happened to education?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still shocked that Michigan and UNC are at 21 and 22. They can't hold a candle too UVA. Everyone in my social circle regards UVA in the same tier as the lower ivies, Michigan and UNC are bottom tier party schools

Maybe you need to braoden your social circle?

I get it, but in reality, at Michigan, virtually every single program/department within the University is top 10, or even top 5 in the country. UVa cannot come close to saying the same thing.

The UVA boosters in the forum really need to take a step back.

On the west coast, Michigan is considered around the level of Berkeley and UCLA. UVA is not, though I can’t speak for the south. No one would think of it as equivalent to a lower tier Ivy here.

Are you an authority or Expert™️ of some sort? On what evidence do you base your claims?

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Anonymous wrote:VT is 47
W&M has fallen to 53

UMD gives alot of aid to First Gen, Low income, and URM. This is why they have risen so much in the rankings.