Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would love to see BASIS be allowed to open w/ the condition that there's no feed to the MS and see how many people actually want BASIS-style education for their K-4th graders. I bet they'd fill, but with a totally different population than their MS.
Saying that people will go to BASIS K for the MS feed does *not* mean there's demand for BASIS K; it means there's demand for BASIS MS. We already have BASIS MS, so the question is why an ES in an area already saturated by serviceable to very good ESes serves DC's interests. The fact that every other BASIS has K-4 does not answer this question at all.
In a forum filled with dumb takes, yours takes the cake, madam. All school decisions are in essence about not just that year or that school, but the feeder pattern. Did you figure that out all by yourself?
It's actually amazing how much you're missing the point. The question is whether there's demand for BASIS K independent of BASIS middle. There is already a BASIS middle, DC doesn't get value add out of adding a BASIS K unless there is *independent* demand for it. Shuffling different kids into BASIS earlier doesn't help DC overall. MSes are not entitled to open ESes just because they want to.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would love to see BASIS be allowed to open w/ the condition that there's no feed to the MS and see how many people actually want BASIS-style education for their K-4th graders. I bet they'd fill, but with a totally different population than their MS.
Saying that people will go to BASIS K for the MS feed does *not* mean there's demand for BASIS K; it means there's demand for BASIS MS. We already have BASIS MS, so the question is why an ES in an area already saturated by serviceable to very good ESes serves DC's interests. The fact that every other BASIS has K-4 does not answer this question at all.
In a forum filled with dumb takes, yours takes the cake, madam. All school decisions are in essence about not just that year or that school, but the feeder pattern. Did you figure that out all by yourself?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
I'm sure you already know the answer... because KIPP and DC Prep opened to give more opportunities to kids in DC who were considered underserved. KIPP DC's mission is to "improve life outcomes" and DC Prep's mission is to "bridge the educational divide." Approximately 70% of KIPP students are at-risk and DC Prep is slightly less than that. The level of at-risk suggests that these schools are likely providing structure, discipline and foundational skills. BASIS has 7% at-risk. A family that wants/needs rigor at BASIS may not appreciate nor need the emphasis on foundational skills provided at other schools.
I do know that, I just wanted to hear the BASIS boosters say it.
Please explain how BASIS elementary will be different from Maury and Ludlow-Taylor's offerings.
Well for starters it will have a MS and HS path that doesn't involve moving or private school tuition!
But this already exists. The MS and HS are not a benefit that DC gets from the ES, they are things DC already has. I would argue that allowing people to opt in to BASIS in 5th serves DC better, because parents then have a much better sense of what MS/HS will work for their kids. Very few families will have any idea in PK4 whether BASIS HS will be a good fit for their kid. I don't see locking people into to a feeder pattern early to be an independent benefit if it means locking other people out later.
Bolded is the money shot and where you expose yourself. These are by definitions scarce resources. If someone has a seat, it means someone else cannot also have that seat. What you are saying is that you object to other people who are willing to commit sooner than you (i.e., before you are done with your good ES) getting something you want to lay claim to a few years later. This is nothing more than that. Just own it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would love to see BASIS be allowed to open w/ the condition that there's no feed to the MS and see how many people actually want BASIS-style education for their K-4th graders. I bet they'd fill, but with a totally different population than their MS.
Saying that people will go to BASIS K for the MS feed does *not* mean there's demand for BASIS K; it means there's demand for BASIS MS. We already have BASIS MS, so the question is why an ES in an area already saturated by serviceable to very good ESes serves DC's interests. The fact that every other BASIS has K-4 does not answer this question at all.
In a forum filled with dumb takes, yours takes the cake, madam. All school decisions are in essence about not just that year or that school, but the feeder pattern. Did you figure that out all by yourself?
Hence the continued interested in MV
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
I'm sure you already know the answer... because KIPP and DC Prep opened to give more opportunities to kids in DC who were considered underserved. KIPP DC's mission is to "improve life outcomes" and DC Prep's mission is to "bridge the educational divide." Approximately 70% of KIPP students are at-risk and DC Prep is slightly less than that. The level of at-risk suggests that these schools are likely providing structure, discipline and foundational skills. BASIS has 7% at-risk. A family that wants/needs rigor at BASIS may not appreciate nor need the emphasis on foundational skills provided at other schools.
I do know that, I just wanted to hear the BASIS boosters say it.
Please explain how BASIS elementary will be different from Maury and Ludlow-Taylor's offerings.
Well for starters it will have a MS and HS path that doesn't involve moving or private school tuition!
But this already exists. The MS and HS are not a benefit that DC gets from the ES, they are things DC already has. I would argue that allowing people to opt in to BASIS in 5th serves DC better, because parents then have a much better sense of what MS/HS will work for their kids. Very few families will have any idea in PK4 whether BASIS HS will be a good fit for their kid. I don't see locking people into to a feeder pattern early to be an independent benefit if it means locking other people out later.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would love to see BASIS be allowed to open w/ the condition that there's no feed to the MS and see how many people actually want BASIS-style education for their K-4th graders. I bet they'd fill, but with a totally different population than their MS.
Saying that people will go to BASIS K for the MS feed does *not* mean there's demand for BASIS K; it means there's demand for BASIS MS. We already have BASIS MS, so the question is why an ES in an area already saturated by serviceable to very good ESes serves DC's interests. The fact that every other BASIS has K-4 does not answer this question at all.
In a forum filled with dumb takes, yours takes the cake, madam. All school decisions are in essence about not just that year or that school, but the feeder pattern. Did you figure that out all by yourself?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
I'm sure you already know the answer... because KIPP and DC Prep opened to give more opportunities to kids in DC who were considered underserved. KIPP DC's mission is to "improve life outcomes" and DC Prep's mission is to "bridge the educational divide." Approximately 70% of KIPP students are at-risk and DC Prep is slightly less than that. The level of at-risk suggests that these schools are likely providing structure, discipline and foundational skills. BASIS has 7% at-risk. A family that wants/needs rigor at BASIS may not appreciate nor need the emphasis on foundational skills provided at other schools.
I do know that, I just wanted to hear the BASIS boosters say it.
Please explain how BASIS elementary will be different from Maury and Ludlow-Taylor's offerings.
Well for starters it will have a MS and HS path that doesn't involve moving or private school tuition!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
You seem not so bright. The point of the second para was that YOUR worldview is that everyone YOU know wants granola ES. The existence of so many filled seats in DC that offer something else tells us there is demand for alternatives to crunchy granola.
Let me repeat: just because YOU don't want it doesn't mean no one else does. Why is that so hard for you?
Right, so, if demand for KIPP means that there is demand for BASIS, why are there so many extra seats at KIPP?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
You seem not so bright. The point of the second para was that YOUR worldview is that everyone YOU know wants granola ES. The existence of so many filled seats in DC that offer something else tells us there is demand for alternatives to crunchy granola.
Let me repeat: just because YOU don't want it doesn't mean no one else does. Why is that so hard for you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
I'm sure you already know the answer... because KIPP and DC Prep opened to give more opportunities to kids in DC who were considered underserved. KIPP DC's mission is to "improve life outcomes" and DC Prep's mission is to "bridge the educational divide." Approximately 70% of KIPP students are at-risk and DC Prep is slightly less than that. The level of at-risk suggests that these schools are likely providing structure, discipline and foundational skills. BASIS has 7% at-risk. A family that wants/needs rigor at BASIS may not appreciate nor need the emphasis on foundational skills provided at other schools.
I do know that, I just wanted to hear the BASIS boosters say it.
Please explain how BASIS elementary will be different from Maury and Ludlow-Taylor's offerings.
Anonymous wrote:Would love to see BASIS be allowed to open w/ the condition that there's no feed to the MS and see how many people actually want BASIS-style education for their K-4th graders. I bet they'd fill, but with a totally different population than their MS.
Saying that people will go to BASIS K for the MS feed does *not* mean there's demand for BASIS K; it means there's demand for BASIS MS. We already have BASIS MS, so the question is why an ES in an area already saturated by serviceable to very good ESes serves DC's interests. The fact that every other BASIS has K-4 does not answer this question at all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.
I'm sure you already know the answer... because KIPP and DC Prep opened to give more opportunities to kids in DC who were considered underserved. KIPP DC's mission is to "improve life outcomes" and DC Prep's mission is to "bridge the educational divide." Approximately 70% of KIPP students are at-risk and DC Prep is slightly less than that. The level of at-risk suggests that these schools are likely providing structure, discipline and foundational skills. BASIS has 7% at-risk. A family that wants/needs rigor at BASIS may not appreciate nor need the emphasis on foundational skills provided at other schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the Basis franchise is highly strategic and is most likely targeting that particular area. Basis likes areas with relatively high-income/education levels where there is a perception that the neighborhood public schools are “bad.” The immediate area in NoMa is high-density residential. It is close to both Capitol Hill and Shaw.
This. The BASIS model depends on having majority high-income kids, because it doesn't perform well enough with low-income kids.
I was thinking this too. They want to populate the ES with Cap Hill kids.
It’s a decent strategy if they don’t want their middle/high school to crash and burn. Unfortunately I’m not sure how many Cap Hill parents are going to opt for a BASIS model. Cap Hill parents tend to want no homework crunchy granola elementary schools and rigorous middle high schools.
Your comment doesn't exist in a vacuum. What you've described is a world where parents can choose Brent for ES and then decamp for BASIS in 5th. The possible expansion eliminates that as a viable choice. That's the point. That's what is driving so many NIMBY folks who think nice things are there for them and them only. The question is what parents will do when the decision matrix requires more rigor in ES to guarantee rigor in MS and HS.
There is also no evidence to support the idea that parents don't want rigor in ES. The existence of KIPP tells us that many parents want discipline and structure. It is no surprise that people on DCUM don't understand that universe.
Please explain, then, why we need BASIS when we already have KIPP and DC Prep in the area.