Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.
Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.
I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.
I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????
One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.
Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.
I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.
Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.
I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.
I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.
Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.
I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.
I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.
Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.
I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.
Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.
Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will be fine with POC and White SROs working together in schools.
someone stated that the majority of SROs were actually black/bronw people. I don't know if that's true. Does anyone have a break down.
Didn't someone say that the cop who yelled at the black kid was a black male?
Why does it matter racism can come from both black and white people if they are in a position of power.
I feel like parents should be required to take classes on racism before the kids go to school.
Blacks can be racist against blacks? How is that even possible?
OMFG please educate yourself!
You realize this kind of woke lunacy is why Dems lost VA last week, right? Please stop before we lose the white house again.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Once again, answer the question.. why do Principals want SROs? Why did the Blair Principal want the cops there after the incident?
Why do you anti-SROs NEVER answer that question?
Also, why don't you go volunteer in the HSs where there have been some serious incidents and deal with those kids. There are security guards there, but that doesn't seem to be reducing the number of serious incidents. So, why don't you go there and do something about it since you don't want SROs there.
Presumably because they believe the SROs are helpful to them, no? What's your point? Do you support everything principals want, or just this one thing?
My point is that Principals are the ones in the hallways every school day, not you, not Elrich and not the BOE. So, they know what's needed. not you or Elrich. If the Principals say that SROs make the schools overall safer, then I back them up.
Why don't you go volunteer and deal with the 200lb 6' 16 yr old who is causing issues in the classroom.
Sure, but the students are also in the hallways every school day, and the push to remove the SROs came from the students. The students said that the SROs do NOT make the schools overall safer. Do you back them up or not?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
it's not ignored. People acknowledged that there are some cops who are bad, and that those cops should be removed from the schools, but that doesn't mean all SROs are bad and should be removed. I'm sure you would not want a certain group to be painted with a broad brush. Why don't you give the same courtesy to other groups?
And the anti-sro folks have never once answered the question of why Principals want SROs in the school, and whether they would call the cops if someone was trying to hurt their kids.
I will take the word of the people who deal with these kids everyday over the words of someone who sits in an office behind a desk most of the day.
I'd like to see these folks in the schools and actually deal with a belligerent student who is disruptive and possibly threatening others. Please.. show us how it's done.
Actually, they have. Principals don't have the resources to handle things in-house and want to hand off the difficult kids to MCPD. Unfortunately, police routinely hide behind qualified immunity or stand together in that "blue line", with no meaningful consequences for any bad behavior.
Give the principals more MCPS resources, especially more mental health support for the students. They're stretched way too thin.
who has what?
Principals don't have the resources.. yes, that's why they want SROs. School staff are already stretched thin. We shouldn't be asking them to do more. "Give the Principals more resources".. sure, but that isn't happening. We had SROs. Bring them back until MCPS does provide the right kind of resources to the schools.
Well yes of course White people want that, they are not the ones who face the brunt of police harassment.
Activists have fought to get police out of schools because SROs are, on net, bad for students of color. It may be a solution that serves White people well but thankfully our decision makers aren't just taking White people into account.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
it's not ignored. People acknowledged that there are some cops who are bad, and that those cops should be removed from the schools, but that doesn't mean all SROs are bad and should be removed. I'm sure you would not want a certain group to be painted with a broad brush. Why don't you give the same courtesy to other groups?
And the anti-sro folks have never once answered the question of why Principals want SROs in the school, and whether they would call the cops if someone was trying to hurt their kids.
I will take the word of the people who deal with these kids everyday over the words of someone who sits in an office behind a desk most of the day.
I'd like to see these folks in the schools and actually deal with a belligerent student who is disruptive and possibly threatening others. Please.. show us how it's done.
Actually, they have. Principals don't have the resources to handle things in-house and want to hand off the difficult kids to MCPD. Unfortunately, police routinely hide behind qualified immunity or stand together in that "blue line", with no meaningful consequences for any bad behavior.
Give the principals more MCPS resources, especially more mental health support for the students. They're stretched way too thin.
who has what?
Principals don't have the resources.. yes, that's why they want SROs. School staff are already stretched thin. We shouldn't be asking them to do more. "Give the Principals more resources".. sure, but that isn't happening. We had SROs. Bring them back until MCPS does provide the right kind of resources to the schools.
Well yes of course White people want that, they are not the ones who face the brunt of police harassment.
Activists have fought to get police out of schools because SROs are, on net, bad for students of color. It may be a solution that serves White people well but thankfully our decision makers aren't just taking White people into account.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will be fine with POC and White SROs working together in schools.
someone stated that the majority of SROs were actually black/bronw people. I don't know if that's true. Does anyone have a break down.
Didn't someone say that the cop who yelled at the black kid was a black male?
Why does it matter racism can come from both black and white people if they are in a position of power.
I feel like parents should be required to take classes on racism before the kids go to school.
Blacks can be racist against blacks? How is that even possible?
OMFG please educate yourself!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will be fine with POC and White SROs working together in schools.
someone stated that the majority of SROs were actually black/bronw people. I don't know if that's true. Does anyone have a break down.
Didn't someone say that the cop who yelled at the black kid was a black male?
Why does it matter racism can come from both black and white people if they are in a position of power.
I feel like parents should be required to take classes on racism before the kids go to school.
Blacks can be racist against blacks? How is that even possible?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will be fine with POC and White SROs working together in schools.
someone stated that the majority of SROs were actually black/bronw people. I don't know if that's true. Does anyone have a break down.
Didn't someone say that the cop who yelled at the black kid was a black male?
Why does it matter racism can come from both black and white people if they are in a position of power.
I feel like parents should be required to take classes on racism before the kids go to school.
Anonymous wrote:Are they also more likely to commit crimes that lead to these arrests?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Student activism drove much of the anti-SRO movement. Students of color say that they don't feel safe with SROs in the schools.
but maybe other kids feel safer with SROs, and certainly, the Principals wanted to keep the SROs.
It's a movement. People who like them come from a position of privilege, so their feelings of safety don't trump those students of color who are fearful of SROs and more likely that non-POC to be arrested. SROs are police and the argument is that police don't belong in schools.