Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:56
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
I kind of wonder if he has gone back to look for her to clear his name. It wouldn't be unlike two people with mental health issues if she ran away or he did, and now it doesn't look good.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:54
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Parents obviously helped him get away. They gave him time to be far away (three days) before reporting him gone.
Problem is, parents said nothing to Gabby's parents before her mom finally called their house to inquire about her daughter. They said nothing and did nothing on behalf of Gabby, while they waited for her mother to file a missing person report. They had lawyered up before Gabby's parents realized Houston, where's our daughter.
Why would they do that? They were lawyered up before Gabby's mom contacted them to inquire about her daughter.
Her parents were in the dark about Gabby, while his parents were waiting to hear from her parents, prepared to deal with her parents through their lawyer.
They knew something, and they also knew they needed a lawyer. Something absolutely happened to Gabby.
Problem is, parents said nothing to Gabby's parents before her mom finally called their house to inquire about her daughter. They said nothing and did nothing on behalf of Gabby, while they waited for her mother to file a missing person report. They had lawyered up before Gabby's parents realized Houston, where's our daughter.
Why would they do that? They were lawyered up before Gabby's mom contacted them to inquire about her daughter.
Her parents were in the dark about Gabby, while his parents were waiting to hear from her parents, prepared to deal with her parents through their lawyer.
They knew something, and they also knew they needed a lawyer. Something absolutely happened to Gabby.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:51
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Could the crazy lady talking about Gabby being in a secret mental institution please stop? Thanks.
But so fun. Already thinking of a novel centered on a mental health facility in a way off the beaten path location. All personnel live on site, and there is no TV, internet or cell phone reception, only a single landline phone.
Jesus you’re obtuse. It’s not some magical place with no tv, etc.
No one is saying they don’t know people are looking for her, they’re saying people that know can not legally say anything.
If your adult child checked into a facility and you didn’t know, how would you find out? You can’t. They can’t tell you. You wouldn’t know. You’d think they are "missing" when in fact they are not missing. People there would know where your child was, they just couldn’t legally tell you.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:44
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Could the crazy lady talking about Gabby being in a secret mental institution please stop? Thanks.
But so fun. Already thinking of a novel centered on a mental health facility in a way off the beaten path location. All personnel live on site, and there is no TV, internet or cell phone reception, only a single landline phone.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:42
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now Laundrie is missing(?)
https://news.yahoo.com/tiktoker-claims-she-picked-brian-114944770.html
So, clearly Laundrie's family is neck deep and have helped him flee. He won't talk to the police, they won't talk to the police, and then all of the sudden their lawyer sets up a conversation with the police so they can tell the police that Brian...entered a wildlife reserve and they haven't seen him since Tuesday.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/18/1038543489/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-missing-boyfriend?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR2lgDW4jY2DBLP8pIBn0irS0rk8BykNuJQO6zA-0j_5Su7GdvAEH5zQ8iA
I also want to say that I don't understand statements like this/find them to be unhelpful:
"It is important to note that while Brian is a person of interest in Gabby's disappearance, he is not wanted for a crime," North Port police said in Friday's statement. It added that the investigation is now a "multiple missing person" case."
Do they say this stuff in the hopes of making the obvious suspect think he isn't a suspect? I mean, 2+2 isn't going to equal 5, no matter how you slice it.
And how did they not have surveillance on Brian Laundrie? Or a wiretap order on his and his family's phones? There would certainly seem to be enough here to warrant that.
You can’t get a wiretap with no evidence. Like it or not at the moment there is 0 evidence of a crime
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:38
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Now Laundrie is missing(?)
https://news.yahoo.com/tiktoker-claims-she-picked-brian-114944770.html
So, clearly Laundrie's family is neck deep and have helped him flee. He won't talk to the police, they won't talk to the police, and then all of the sudden their lawyer sets up a conversation with the police so they can tell the police that Brian...entered a wildlife reserve and they haven't seen him since Tuesday.
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/18/1038543489/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-missing-boyfriend?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR2lgDW4jY2DBLP8pIBn0irS0rk8BykNuJQO6zA-0j_5Su7GdvAEH5zQ8iA
I also want to say that I don't understand statements like this/find them to be unhelpful:
"It is important to note that while Brian is a person of interest in Gabby's disappearance, he is not wanted for a crime," North Port police said in Friday's statement. It added that the investigation is now a "multiple missing person" case."
Do they say this stuff in the hopes of making the obvious suspect think he isn't a suspect? I mean, 2+2 isn't going to equal 5, no matter how you slice it.
And how did they not have surveillance on Brian Laundrie? Or a wiretap order on his and his family's phones? There would certainly seem to be enough here to warrant that.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:27
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend is now missing. No one has seen him since Tuesday and police have opened a missing person investigation.
He is HIDING. Not missing.
He probably has completed suicide somewhere...
Or, maybe that serial killer got him too.
If his parents were remotely worried about suicide, they would have reported him missing days ago. They didn’t, which says to me they know he took off to hide somewhere.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:26
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did everyone miss the fact that Gabby worked as a pharmacy technician to save up her share of the money to make this trip? So, she did have a job and in many states that job requires certification. Yes, you only need a high school diploma to get the training, but she wasn't just sitting around not working for years and years, as some posters seem to think she was.
Second, I love how so many posters think the parents could have completely controlled Gabby. "Why did Gabby’s parents allow her to move in with Brian’s family ? Why can’t she stay on her own or with her own family , go to college, start a career path ? Why is she not finding those supports at home ? Something isn’t right there ."
She was in love. She wanted to be with the guy. She was 22. The parents can't force her to move back to New York. I know a lot of parents with daughters several years younger who have tried unsuccessfully to get them away from guys they thought were bad news. And please note that her parents are divorced and her father recently moved to Florida "to be closer to his daughter." So, maybe he did have concerns, but all he could do was move close to her and let her know he and his wife were there for her if things with Brian fell apart. He may also been able to see and talk with her regularly so he could assess how she was coping with her anxiety and OCD. In all honesty, I don't know what more he could have done with a 22 year old daughter.
Pretty sure her dad is an abuser.
How do you come up with these conclusions???
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:26
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:people are arrested in hospitals for seeking medical treatment after being injured in committing a crime every single day. the doctors and nurses will 100% let law enforcement know, especially in a car of a nationwide manhunt. Stop being stupid. There are exceptions to Hippa. It’s not some ironclad agreement if silence.
She has committed no crime. If she committed herself and said tell no one, they can’t.
There’s an exception if law enforcement makes a request, but if they don’t know she’s there, no request.
Again, not saying it’s probable at all, but it can, and does happen.
NOPE, you are WRONG
Show me where they can with no request from law enforcement.
What, you think they haven’t put out an information request to all the local hospitals/mental facilities? It’s one of the first things you do when looking for a missing person.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:24
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous
09/18/2021 14:22
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The boyfriend is now missing. No one has seen him since Tuesday and police have opened a missing person investigation.
He is HIDING. Not missing.
He probably has completed suicide somewhere...
Or, maybe that serial killer got him too.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 13:47
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did everyone miss the fact that Gabby worked as a pharmacy technician to save up her share of the money to make this trip? So, she did have a job and in many states that job requires certification. Yes, you only need a high school diploma to get the training, but she wasn't just sitting around not working for years and years, as some posters seem to think she was.
Second, I love how so many posters think the parents could have completely controlled Gabby. "Why did Gabby’s parents allow her to move in with Brian’s family ? Why can’t she stay on her own or with her own family , go to college, start a career path ? Why is she not finding those supports at home ? Something isn’t right there ."
She was in love. She wanted to be with the guy. She was 22. The parents can't force her to move back to New York. I know a lot of parents with daughters several years younger who have tried unsuccessfully to get them away from guys they thought were bad news. And please note that her parents are divorced and her father recently moved to Florida "to be closer to his daughter." So, maybe he did have concerns, but all he could do was move close to her and let her know he and his wife were there for her if things with Brian fell apart. He may also been able to see and talk with her regularly so he could assess how she was coping with her anxiety and OCD. In all honesty, I don't know what more he could have done with a 22 year old daughter.
Pretty sure her dad is an abuser.
I suspect something is off with the Dad too. I think things blew up between Gabby and Brian again. I think she threatened to kill herself. Such a mess with them both battling mental health issues and not medicating.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 13:35
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Did everyone miss the fact that Gabby worked as a pharmacy technician to save up her share of the money to make this trip? So, she did have a job and in many states that job requires certification. Yes, you only need a high school diploma to get the training, but she wasn't just sitting around not working for years and years, as some posters seem to think she was.
Second, I love how so many posters think the parents could have completely controlled Gabby. "Why did Gabby’s parents allow her to move in with Brian’s family ? Why can’t she stay on her own or with her own family , go to college, start a career path ? Why is she not finding those supports at home ? Something isn’t right there ."
She was in love. She wanted to be with the guy. She was 22. The parents can't force her to move back to New York. I know a lot of parents with daughters several years younger who have tried unsuccessfully to get them away from guys they thought were bad news. And please note that her parents are divorced and her father recently moved to Florida "to be closer to his daughter." So, maybe he did have concerns, but all he could do was move close to her and let her know he and his wife were there for her if things with Brian fell apart. He may also been able to see and talk with her regularly so he could assess how she was coping with her anxiety and OCD. In all honesty, I don't know what more he could have done with a 22 year old daughter.
Pretty sure her dad is an abuser.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 13:32
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Could the crazy lady talking about Gabby being in a secret mental institution please stop? Thanks.
Anonymous
09/18/2021 13:30
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/special/emergency/final_hipaa_guide_law_enforcement.pdf
“A HIPAA covered entity also may disclose PHI to law enforcement without the individual’s signed HIPAA authorization in certain incidents, including:
To respond to a request for PHI for purposes of identifying or locating a suspect, fugitive, material witness or missing person, but the information must be limited to basic demographic and health information about the person.”
Correct, notice where it says "a request". With no request, they just can’t tell someone. If no one knows you’re in there, no request is made. The hospital can not just decide to say something.
So the entire medical staff, non medical staff and volunteers working at this facility don’t watch the tv or listen to radio and have no heard of the nationwide manhunt for Gabby? And if anyone at the hospital knows she is there they will absolutely say something. They would not remain quite regardless if Hippa was involved or not. Just stop. You look ridiculous.
Again, I’m not saying they don’t know, or shouldn’t say anything. They can’t say anything or they can never work in medical again.