Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:22
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.
The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?
Being cis and White doesn't make you a Republican.
Having a roommate who is transitioning doesn't make a lover or a reason to kill.
Having a trans roommate doesn’t mean they were lovers. They could have been friends prior and then Lance decided to transition possibly. It doesn’t mean they were in a relationship.
It has been confirmed by the FBI and the Utah governor. Geez you people are in such denial.
These are not the most reliable sources in these highly partisan times.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:21
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay
How long will the left continue to deny their role here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html
Correct
Leftist and liked D.
Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.
At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.
What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.
It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.
Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.
I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.
EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.
You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.
So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)
Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.
If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).
If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).
I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.
She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…
She doesn’t want the money to stop.
Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.
I’ve read that she’s made like $4M this week.
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Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:21
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay
How long will the left continue to deny their role here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html
Correct
Leftist and liked D.
Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.
At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.
What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.
It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.
Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.
I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.
EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.
You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.
So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)
Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.
If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).
If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).
I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.
She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…
She doesn’t want the money to stop.
Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.
You’re incredibly naive if you think he only pocketed $12m in 10 years. I’d bet his net worth was well north of $50m.
If a far more obscure GOP operative like Nick Ayers is allegedly worth tens of millions, how would Charlie Kirk not be worth far more?
Yeah right. Billions! Does that make people hate him more to pretend he has millions of dollars? Tens of millions? Hundreds of millions?
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:19
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?
Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.
If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.
I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.
The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?
I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.
It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.
Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.
I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.
You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.
Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.
Cox didn't say he was influenced, he said he "was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology."
That's MAGA speak. WTF even is that?! It's not your everyday Dem, which is why it's so disingenuous of Cox because he knows the president of the US said that all Dems are the enemy. None of this details solves anything. It's gasoline on dumpster fire.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:16
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?
Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate
People here are trying to ignore and deflect.
Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.
Hate begets hate.
Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.
The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.
Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.
And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.
Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.
-signed an Independent
I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).
When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?
And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.
That you would post this when your POTUS says more direct threats every single day is telling. You are lost.
In the world where I live, calling someone a fascist is not an invitation to murder, it is a description related to their words and behavior. What kind of sicko are you that you think a certain label means someone should be killed?
You are the dangerous one.
Oh, please. You don't even know me. Quit throwing out insults to anonymous people. In other words, grow up.
And, as for your labeling people with insulting and defamatory labels........
(It is not a coincidence that the killer had "fascist" inscribed on the balistics)
What extremists do — and the modern left has mastered this craft — is dehumanization.
They strip their opponents of humanity, redefine them as monsters, and then killing or silencing them becomes "acceptable." This is not new. It is an ancient technique.
They call us “Naz*s,” “fascists,” “threats to democracy.” They say we want to “disappear” people or “take away rights.” The rhetoric is so grotesque that to a warped mind, or to a young and impressionable mind, we no longer appear as fellow citizens — we become villains to be destroyed.
History is full of examples:
Nazi Germany: Jews were called “rats” and “vermin” in propaganda films and newspapers. Once a people is seen as a disease, extermination feels like “cleansing.”
Rwanda (1994): Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches” by Hutu extremists on the radio. That word helped unleash a genocide that killed 800,000 in 100 days.
Stalin’s USSR: Political dissidents were called “enemies.” Once branded, they could be imprisoned, starved, or shot — and many neighbors even helped.
American slavery and segregation: Slaveholders and later groups like the KKK portrayed black Americans as subhuman. That lie justified both slavery and lynching.
Even militaries do it — soldiers are trained to see the enemy as “targets,” not fathers, mothers, or children. It is how humans overcome the natural revulsion to killing.
And notice: it is always the young they go after. Minds not fully formed. High schools, universities, and pop culture are the battleground. Because if you can plant the seed early, if you can normalize seeing political opponents as monsters, the next step becomes easy.
That is why indoctrination always begins young. The left understands the strategy. We must understand it too.
The MAGA projection just never ends. Wake up, this is YOU guys. The right deploys this strategy, not the left.
Your whole post is describing exactly what the American GOP and their RWNJs do to immigrants, trans and gay people, and POC every day. And now they are doing it to "the left". The POTUS is issuing sweeping generalizations to get all on "the left". Vengeance against people only because they disagree with him. Nancy Mace blamed this killing on Democrats, no qualifier. They are spreading lies and hatred to get idiots like you to turn on your neighbors if they disagree with you.
No Democrats called for his murder. None. Zero. There is no leftist conspiracy just like there was no deep state after Trump. Trump and MAGA support authoritarianism. They deserve the label. It is accurate. And, again, if you think that label to accurately describe their beliefs and behavior is a call for killing, that is YOUR deluded thinking and your PATHOLOGY.
Trump conjures these demons to fool gullible ignorant fools like you and the MAGA faithful and excuse his deplorable calls for violence and retribution against his made up enemies. It's authoritarian. It's wrong.
MAGA and Trump are the danger here. Wake up. (you wont. you're gone.)
Sorry but you're the one that's gone. Are you ever going to recognize the fascism from the radical left?
Please specifically point out the members of the radical left you are referring to and the acts that qualify them as fascists. Otherwise, you are just repeating MAGA propaganda.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:15
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
I don’t know if it matters what he really identified with, politically, sexually or anything else, if Trump announces that he’s a leftist and blames Democrats. That seems to be the game plan here.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:14
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Here is a really interesting take I read in doing some research on the Fuentes movement:
I can already feel how much we're going to be talking about groypers in the coming days so I'll say this:
- they don't map on a right/left spectrum... throw this idea out
- if they did, they would only be considered " on the right" bc groypers are mainly ppl on the far-right for whom Charlie Kirk was not radical enough. if they had become *less radical* they would veer into a more mainstream audience
- Charlie Kirk was absolutely far-right but culturally coded as mainstream for a few reasons..
Charlie Kirk's persona, positioning ("debate me" on campuses), plus the mix and scale of content he produced (enabled by the $$ behind Turning Point) meant that all flavors of his content funneled into different audiences on social, based on what would most strongly anger or appeal to any particular individual. Whatever content of his would produce the strongest emotion for *you personally* is what you would see.
This is why there's such misalignment on Kirk's ideology & what he represented.
So Charlie Kirk coded as mainstream but espoused far-right ideology, but that wasn't enough for Nick Fuentes, who created the groyper movement as a reaction to Turning Point, which he hated for a number of reasons relating to incel culture and Jew-hating conspiracies... all of which goes back to why this group can't be mapped onto a right/left spectrum
Think of it more like a frat with its own language and distinct meanings (like the bullet engravings)
The ideology is not coherent, it's nihilistic, and very much tied into the male loneliness problem or whatever we're calling it... this is a massive danger in a time of imminently bad economic conditions and a system that is only going to make it harder for people under 40 to make a hopeful future for themselves. The groypers are waiting to welcome all the lost boys who already think women and immigrants and DEI are at fault for their circumstances.
I can already feel how much we're going to be talking about groypers in the coming days so I'll say this:
- they don't map on a right/left spectrum... throw this idea out
- if they did, they would only be considered " on the right" bc groypers are mainly ppl on the far-right for whom Charlie Kirk was not radical enough. if they had become *less radical* they would veer into a more mainstream audience
- Charlie Kirk was absolutely far-right but culturally coded as mainstream for a few reasons..
Charlie Kirk's persona, positioning ("debate me" on campuses), plus the mix and scale of content he produced (enabled by the $$ behind Turning Point) meant that all flavors of his content funneled into different audiences on social, based on what would most strongly anger or appeal to any particular individual. Whatever content of his would produce the strongest emotion for *you personally* is what you would see.
This is why there's such misalignment on Kirk's ideology & what he represented.
So Charlie Kirk coded as mainstream but espoused far-right ideology, but that wasn't enough for Nick Fuentes, who created the groyper movement as a reaction to Turning Point, which he hated for a number of reasons relating to incel culture and Jew-hating conspiracies... all of which goes back to why this group can't be mapped onto a right/left spectrum
Think of it more like a frat with its own language and distinct meanings (like the bullet engravings)
The ideology is not coherent, it's nihilistic, and very much tied into the male loneliness problem or whatever we're calling it... this is a massive danger in a time of imminently bad economic conditions and a system that is only going to make it harder for people under 40 to make a hopeful future for themselves. The groypers are waiting to welcome all the lost boys who already think women and immigrants and DEI are at fault for their circumstances.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:13
Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:13
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.
The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?
+1
Publicized by who? He had a trans partner. Does that make him CIS?
He is trans adjacent.
Trans-involved individuals
And who taught Tyler how to shoot, who brought him to shooting ranges as a kid, posted photos of him as a child sitting with bazookas? The trans community?
His conservative parents. The difference is Conservatives say guns are used for hunting, sport, and self defense because that’s what they use them for. Liberals say guns are for killing people because that’s what they use them for……
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:13
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.
The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?
Being cis and White doesn't make you a Republican.
Having a roommate who is transitioning doesn't make a lover or a reason to kill.
Having a trans roommate doesn’t mean they were lovers. They could have been friends prior and then Lance decided to transition possibly. It doesn’t mean they were in a relationship.
It has been confirmed by the FBI and the Utah governor. Geez you people are in such denial.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:13
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?
Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.
If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.
I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.
The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?
I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.
It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.
You are very silly.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:12
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?
Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.
If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.
I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.
The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?
I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.
It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.
Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.
I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.
You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.
Jeff, with all due respect, I am not sure the Governor understands the difference between "leftist ideology" and the likes of Fuentes and Loomer. There are mainstream republicans, like a PP in this thread, who just assumes anyone who is gay or trans are also lefties. And that simply isn't the case. It will really take a search through his internet consumption and posting history to really get at the root of who he is and what made him tick. And frankly, i don't trust anything coming out of the FBI right now.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:12
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay
How long will the left continue to deny their role here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html
Correct
Leftist and liked D.
Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.
At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.
What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.
It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.
Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.
I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.
EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.
You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.
So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)
Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.
If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).
If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).
I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.
She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…
She doesn’t want the money to stop.
Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.
I’ve read that she’s made like $4M this week.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:11
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?
Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.
If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.
I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.
The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?
*possible* not *popular*
I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.
It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.
Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.
I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.
You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.
And it was reported that he offered no proof of his claim whatsoever.
Yes. It's very popular he was just saying what DJT wanted him to as blind obedience to him isn't optional.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 20:11
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?
Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.
If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.
I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.
The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?
I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.
It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.
Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.
I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.
You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.
And it was reported that he offered no proof of his claim whatsoever.
Yes. It's very popular he was just saying what DJT wanted him to as blind obedience to him isn't optional.