Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:11     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


Being cis and White doesn't make you a Republican.


Having a roommate who is transitioning doesn't make a lover or a reason to kill.

Having a trans roommate doesn’t mean they were lovers. They could have been friends prior and then Lance decided to transition possibly. It doesn’t mean they were in a relationship.


Yes, my point exactly.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:10     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html


Correct
Leftist and liked D.


Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.

At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.

What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.

It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.

Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.

I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.

EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.

You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.

So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)

Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.

If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).

If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).

I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.


She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…


She doesn’t want the money to stop.


Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.


You’re incredibly naive if you think he only pocketed $12m in 10 years. I’d bet his net worth was well north of $50m.


She's probably addicted to the power, attention and social affirmation. She's also probably up for being manipulated by DT and the other conservatives who would like to manipulate her tragedy to advance the MAGA agenda.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:09     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.


And it was reported that he offered no proof of his claim whatsoever.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:08     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


Being cis and White doesn't make you a Republican.


Having a roommate who is transitioning doesn't make a lover or a reason to kill.

Having a trans roommate doesn’t mean they were lovers. They could have been friends prior and then Lance decided to transition possibly. It doesn’t mean they were in a relationship.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:08     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Why does it have to be someone’s fault and not just the shooter’s own depravity?
I am a democrat and my boys (20s)are productive members of society. Stop blaming and threatening a political party.This just sadly shows me that I am surrounded by people that do not share my norms or morals. Lynch mob mentality is foreign to me. The only battle cries I hear are the distant drumming of a scary divided nation with the beats getting louder and closer.



+100.
I’m right of center and a fan of Charlie Kirk’s and don’t blame the left or anyone else other than Tyler Robinson himself. There always have and always will be mentally unstable people who commit high profile murders. I don’t understand the need to assign “blame” to any political wing. Even if the left is to “blame” for this, obviously some right wing crazy will do something similar in the future.

Because only one political wing labeled him a Fascist.

Kirk was anti-trans and was very vocal about it. Hate begets hate. I don't believe people should be murdered for their political views, but in this country, where so many have easy access to guns, I would definitely not say anything publicly that could trigger people, pardon the pun.

Also, if Kirk and MAGA are so supportive of free speech, why do they want to dox people for voicing their opinions about Kirk?


Charlie Kirk didn’t believe in trans but he was not mean towards them. He didn’t hate them.

The left started it with cancel culture. You can’t be angry now that it’s turning back onto your side.


He was literally hating on them when he was shot.


He was speaking facts. We have had multiple trans and non-binary mass shooters.


And they amount to .0001% of the total mass shooters, the overwhelmimg majority of whom are white males between the ages of 15 and 25. Why was Kirk so focused on trans people? It's like a fetish with the right.


Unf 2-3 of the 10 is a larger %age than your math.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:07     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


Being cis and White doesn't make you a Republican.


Having a roommate who is transitioning doesn't make a lover or a reason to kill.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:05     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html


Correct
Leftist and liked D.


Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.

At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.

What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.

It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.

Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.

I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.

EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.

You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.

So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)

Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.

If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).

If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).

I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.


She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…


She doesn’t want the money to stop.


Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.


You’re incredibly naive if you think he only pocketed $12m in 10 years. I’d bet his net worth was well north of $50m.


If a far more obscure GOP operative like Nick Ayers is allegedly worth tens of millions, how would Charlie Kirk not be worth far more?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:03     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


+1


Publicized by who? He had a trans partner. Does that make him CIS?


He is trans adjacent.


Trans-involved individuals

And who taught Tyler how to shoot, who brought him to shooting ranges as a kid, posted photos of him as a child sitting with bazookas? The trans community?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 20:01     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html


Correct
Leftist and liked D.


Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.

At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.

What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.

It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.

Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.

I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.

EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.

You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.

So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)

Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.

If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).

If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).

I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.


She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…


She doesn’t want the money to stop.


Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.


You’re incredibly naive if you think he only pocketed $12m in 10 years. I’d bet his net worth was well north of $50m.
jsteele
Post 09/14/2025 20:00     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.


Mixing incorrect information with insults is not going to strengthen your argument. To the contrary, if you must resort to ad hominems, it suggests that you are out of facts.

I agreed that the Governor said that the shooter is influenced by leftist ideology. Anything beyond that is speculation. Anything about his sexual orientation is speculation.

You want me to apologize for being wrong but you refuse to acknowledge, let alone apologize, that you wrongly described the shooter as trans.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 19:59     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


+1


Publicized by who? He had a trans partner. Does that make him CIS?


He is trans adjacent.


Trans-involved individuals
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 19:58     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How long before the shooter is found dead in his cell?


Not long. And the "roommate" will simply fade out of public view and knowledge as well.

I don't trust the story we are being sold - AT ALL.

Agree +1000000
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 19:55     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How many loops will you go through to sidestep that Kirk was killed by a left wing gay dude? Do you plan on keeping up this comical defense when speking with your colleagues? Family?

Do you think you will keep your job. I'm 100% sincere in theese questions. You are just bald face lying at this point.


If you are talking to me, I can assure you that I will keep my job. I have not told one lie. You, on the other hand, claimed that the shooter is a member of the trans community. He is not.

I am not sure that any of us can comment on his sexual orientation. He is romantically involved with someone who apparently identifies as a woman. To my knowledge, there has been no authoritative publicly-released information about his sexual orientation.

The Governor of Utah said that the shooter was influenced by left wing ideology. So, you can hang your hat on the fact that a CIS White male influenced by leftist ideology killed Kirk. Then you can continue your attempts to suppress the speech of folks like me. Does that satisfy you?


I'd continue to discuss this if you weren't so disengenuos, dishonest and defensive. You know the shooter was a gay lefty. I know that. Everyone knows that. You know we all know that.

It's like you're hiding from the truth. We see that. Since you own this joint, I'd like to see you have the integrity to come back and apologize for being wrong when even the left wing media concedes the shooter was a gay left wing freak. It's coming and you know it. Because that's what it was. It's just a matter of a few days.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 19:55     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff will lock this in a second. It's clear now that this was a hit on a cis white R man by the trans left community.


The shooter was not trans. He was a cis White man. These are known facts that have been publicized all day. Is there any reason that you are struggling with them?


+1


Publicized by who? He had a trans partner. Does that make him CIS?


He is trans adjacent.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 19:54     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html


Correct
Leftist and liked D.


Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.

At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.

What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.

It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.

Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.

I don’t condone his murder, but he’s not a martyr. Merely a sad fleeting moment. His wife will try her best, as is evident in her Instagram post, sobbing on his open casket body, kissing his hands while someone records. Views for the masses. Indoctrination ensues.

EK: “They should all know this…if you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea…you have no idea what you have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea.

You have no idea of the fire you have ignited in this wife. The cries of this widow’s echo around the world like a battle cry. The movement my husband built will not die. It won’t. I refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband’s name. I will make sure of it.

So to all of the young people who feel inspired by my husband’s faith and hard work, all of you know what Charlie would want you to do…you know (hushed and smirk)

Go find your Turning Point USA chapter. Join it. Stay involved. He wants you to make a difference. The movement’s not going anywhere. It will only get stronger when you join. Sign up on TPUSA to find your chapter.

If you’re a parent, I highly recommend you come to Americafest in December (bring the kids)😳 I’ll be there. Charlie will be there (in spirit).

If you are not a church member, I highly recommend you join one…a Bible believing church (hushed smirk).

I had to stop note taking for the obvious reasons.


She made clear she will be 100x more dangerous that her late husband…


She doesn’t want the money to stop.


Yeah, how is she supposed to get by on $12 million.