Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:44     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:How long before the shooter is found dead in his cell?


Just a few weeks once people are a little distracted. Obviously the cameras will be updating around that time so we won't have any footage.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:43     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are also going to find out shortly how much trans porn MAGA consumes. I just saw some data analytics, but not a postable link yet.

MAGA.
Trans porn.
Religious right.
Pedo.

It’s all coming to a head!


You can keep pretending that the gay shooter with a transitioning boyfriend that assassinated the most influential conservative personality among young people is somehow MAGA, but you look dumber every minute.


Have you heard of Nick Fuentes and Catboykami? If you haven't, maybe you need to better understand the eco-system of media the shooter consumed.


This week the information will come out, and you’ll be disappointed to learn he’s not remotely MAGA. You have about 48 hours to craft a nuttier narrative.


+1
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:42     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate


People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.


Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent


I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.


That you would post this when your POTUS says more direct threats every single day is telling. You are lost.

In the world where I live, calling someone a fascist is not an invitation to murder, it is a description related to their words and behavior. What kind of sicko are you that you think a certain label means someone should be killed?

You are the dangerous one.


Oh, please. You don't even know me. Quit throwing out insults to anonymous people. In other words, grow up.
And, as for your labeling people with insulting and defamatory labels........
(It is not a coincidence that the killer had "fascist" inscribed on the balistics)



What extremists do — and the modern left has mastered this craft — is dehumanization.

They strip their opponents of humanity, redefine them as monsters, and then killing or silencing them becomes "acceptable." This is not new. It is an ancient technique.

They call us “Naz*s,” “fascists,” “threats to democracy.” They say we want to “disappear” people or “take away rights.” The rhetoric is so grotesque that to a warped mind, or to a young and impressionable mind, we no longer appear as fellow citizens — we become villains to be destroyed.

History is full of examples:

Nazi Germany: Jews were called “rats” and “vermin” in propaganda films and newspapers. Once a people is seen as a disease, extermination feels like “cleansing.”

Rwanda (1994): Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches” by Hutu extremists on the radio. That word helped unleash a genocide that killed 800,000 in 100 days.

Stalin’s USSR: Political dissidents were called “enemies.” Once branded, they could be imprisoned, starved, or shot — and many neighbors even helped.

American slavery and segregation: Slaveholders and later groups like the KKK portrayed black Americans as subhuman. That lie justified both slavery and lynching.

Even militaries do it — soldiers are trained to see the enemy as “targets,” not fathers, mothers, or children. It is how humans overcome the natural revulsion to killing.

And notice: it is always the young they go after. Minds not fully formed. High schools, universities, and pop culture are the battleground. Because if you can plant the seed early, if you can normalize seeing political opponents as monsters, the next step becomes easy.

That is why indoctrination always begins young. The left understands the strategy. We must understand it too.


The MAGA projection just never ends. Wake up, this is YOU guys. The right deploys this strategy, not the left.

Your whole post is describing exactly what the American GOP and their RWNJs do to immigrants, trans and gay people, and POC every day. And now they are doing it to "the left". The POTUS is issuing sweeping generalizations to get all on "the left". Vengeance against people only because they disagree with him. Nancy Mace blamed this killing on Democrats, no qualifier. They are spreading lies and hatred to get idiots like you to turn on your neighbors if they disagree with you.

No Democrats called for his murder. None. Zero. There is no leftist conspiracy just like there was no deep state after Trump. Trump and MAGA support authoritarianism. They deserve the label. It is accurate. And, again, if you think that label to accurately describe their beliefs and behavior is a call for killing, that is YOUR deluded thinking and your PATHOLOGY.

Trump conjures these demons to fool gullible ignorant fools like you and the MAGA faithful and excuse his deplorable calls for violence and retribution against his made up enemies. It's authoritarian. It's wrong.

MAGA and Trump are the danger here. Wake up. (you wont. you're gone.)



Sorry but you're the one that's gone. Are you ever going to recognize the fascism from the radical left?


I'm a different poster than the one you're replying to, but I agree with them completely.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:42     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have zero hope or expectation that stricter gun laws will ever happen in this country at this point.

Well, they might, but only when we have a total authoritarian takeover and that would be to protect the authoritarian from the people.


We can’t even get rid of archaic Birthright Citizenship, how would we get rid of Right to Bear Arms?


Birthright citizenship is plain language of the Constitution.
The right to bear arms has been so totally misconstrued and weaponized by the NRA and the right, that even many conservative judges have spoken out about it.


And it’s right there “in plain language of the Constitution.”
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:41     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are also going to find out shortly how much trans porn MAGA consumes. I just saw some data analytics, but not a postable link yet.

MAGA.
Trans porn.
Religious right.
Pedo.

It’s all coming to a head!


You can keep pretending that the gay shooter with a transitioning boyfriend that assassinated the most influential conservative personality among young people is somehow MAGA, but you look dumber every minute.


Have you heard of Nick Fuentes and Catboykami? If you haven't, maybe you need to better understand the eco-system of media the shooter consumed.


This week the information will come out, and you’ll be disappointed to learn he’s not remotely MAGA. You have about 48 hours to craft a nuttier narrative.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:39     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate


People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.


Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent


I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.


That you would post this when your POTUS says more direct threats every single day is telling. You are lost.

In the world where I live, calling someone a fascist is not an invitation to murder, it is a description related to their words and behavior. What kind of sicko are you that you think a certain label means someone should be killed?

You are the dangerous one.


Oh, please. You don't even know me. Quit throwing out insults to anonymous people. In other words, grow up.
And, as for your labeling people with insulting and defamatory labels........
(It is not a coincidence that the killer had "fascist" inscribed on the balistics)



What extremists do — and the modern left has mastered this craft — is dehumanization.

They strip their opponents of humanity, redefine them as monsters, and then killing or silencing them becomes "acceptable." This is not new. It is an ancient technique.

They call us “Naz*s,” “fascists,” “threats to democracy.” They say we want to “disappear” people or “take away rights.” The rhetoric is so grotesque that to a warped mind, or to a young and impressionable mind, we no longer appear as fellow citizens — we become villains to be destroyed.

History is full of examples:

Nazi Germany: Jews were called “rats” and “vermin” in propaganda films and newspapers. Once a people is seen as a disease, extermination feels like “cleansing.”

Rwanda (1994): Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches” by Hutu extremists on the radio. That word helped unleash a genocide that killed 800,000 in 100 days.

Stalin’s USSR: Political dissidents were called “enemies.” Once branded, they could be imprisoned, starved, or shot — and many neighbors even helped.

American slavery and segregation: Slaveholders and later groups like the KKK portrayed black Americans as subhuman. That lie justified both slavery and lynching.

Even militaries do it — soldiers are trained to see the enemy as “targets,” not fathers, mothers, or children. It is how humans overcome the natural revulsion to killing.

And notice: it is always the young they go after. Minds not fully formed. High schools, universities, and pop culture are the battleground. Because if you can plant the seed early, if you can normalize seeing political opponents as monsters, the next step becomes easy.

That is why indoctrination always begins young. The left understands the strategy. We must understand it too.


The MAGA projection just never ends. Wake up, this is YOU guys. The right deploys this strategy, not the left.

Your whole post is describing exactly what the American GOP and their RWNJs do to immigrants, trans and gay people, and POC every day. And now they are doing it to "the left". The POTUS is issuing sweeping generalizations to get all on "the left". Vengeance against people only because they disagree with him. Nancy Mace blamed this killing on Democrats, no qualifier. They are spreading lies and hatred to get idiots like you to turn on your neighbors if they disagree with you.

No Democrats called for his murder. None. Zero. There is no leftist conspiracy just like there was no deep state after Trump. Trump and MAGA support authoritarianism. They deserve the label. It is accurate. And, again, if you think that label to accurately describe their beliefs and behavior is a call for killing, that is YOUR deluded thinking and your PATHOLOGY.

Trump conjures these demons to fool gullible ignorant fools like you and the MAGA faithful and excuse his deplorable calls for violence and retribution against his made up enemies. It's authoritarian. It's wrong.

MAGA and Trump are the danger here. Wake up. (you wont. you're gone.)



Sorry but you're the one that's gone. Are you ever going to recognize the fascism from the radical left?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:37     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

How long before the shooter is found dead in his cell?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:37     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are also going to find out shortly how much trans porn MAGA consumes. I just saw some data analytics, but not a postable link yet.

MAGA.
Trans porn.
Religious right.
Pedo.

It’s all coming to a head!


You can keep pretending that the gay shooter with a transitioning boyfriend that assassinated the most influential conservative personality among young people is somehow MAGA, but you look dumber every minute.


Have you heard of Nick Fuentes and Catboykami? If you haven't, maybe you need to better understand the eco-system of media the shooter consumed.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:36     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are also going to find out shortly how much trans porn MAGA consumes. I just saw some data analytics, but not a postable link yet.

MAGA.
Trans porn.
Religious right.
Pedo.

It’s all coming to a head!


He’s not maga. I’m sorry you are so disappointed


Nope. Mormons in Utah are more like the Mitt Romney type of Republican than MAGA.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:36     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are also going to find out shortly how much trans porn MAGA consumes. I just saw some data analytics, but not a postable link yet.

MAGA.
Trans porn.
Religious right.
Pedo.

It’s all coming to a head!


He’s not maga. I’m sorry you are so disappointed


So you are saying Nick Fuentes isn't MAGA either? Because the shooter and Fuentes are cut from the same cloth.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:35     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oops, sorry accidentally hit send...

I came on here the other day as a Dem to praise Governor Cox for his calls for unity AND I RETRACT THEM.

Governor Cox is no unifier. Sadly his words the other day were empty given his gross press tour this weekend and the gasoline he just poured on the situation.

The WSJ reported that Trump called him immediately after the speech to tell him it was trash. Now, the governor says the shooter was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," with no proof. He said the shooter isn't cooperative, and so he has to "draw conclusions."

It's sad but now my fury at MAGA is back. They're the violent ones and nobody is willing to stand up and tell the truth. Trump came out today and said when someone asked him how he might unify the country, "I don't care to."

As an American I'm disgusted, that no GOP will call out this dangerous rhetoric.


It’s been proven he was a leftists with a trans lover and he hated Charlie Kirk.


Can you point to what evidence proves that? And not just some claim from a Governor who said the shooter "isn't cooperative."


+1

All I have seen is dubious words from people I'm not sure I trust. That's not actual evidence.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:34     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oops, sorry accidentally hit send...

I came on here the other day as a Dem to praise Governor Cox for his calls for unity AND I RETRACT THEM.

Governor Cox is no unifier. Sadly his words the other day were empty given his gross press tour this weekend and the gasoline he just poured on the situation.

The WSJ reported that Trump called him immediately after the speech to tell him it was trash. Now, the governor says the shooter was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," with no proof. He said the shooter isn't cooperative, and so he has to "draw conclusions."

It's sad but now my fury at MAGA is back. They're the violent ones and nobody is willing to stand up and tell the truth. Trump came out today and said when someone asked him how he might unify the country, "I don't care to."

As an American I'm disgusted, that no GOP will call out this dangerous rhetoric.


It’s been proven he was a leftists with a trans lover and he hated Charlie Kirk.


Can you point to what evidence proves that? And not just some claim from a Governor who said the shooter "isn't cooperative."


DP. It has been "reported" with enough details that it appears to be true. Certainly, more true than the reports that he was right of MAGA.

The governor said that more details will be released on Tuesday. I think that is when he is charged or indicted or whatever the correct term is


If the source is Dan Bongino or Kesh paatel, then they are not trustworthy. See the problem with hiring partisans for law enforcement jobs?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:34     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Trump covered up the Epstein files because they didn't make him look good. He paid off Stormy Daniels so she wouldn't make him look bad. And now he's telling Spencer Cox to change his narrative so it matches what Trump wants to hear.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:33     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have zero hope or expectation that stricter gun laws will ever happen in this country at this point.

Well, they might, but only when we have a total authoritarian takeover and that would be to protect the authoritarian from the people.


We can’t even get rid of archaic Birthright Citizenship, how would we get rid of Right to Bear Arms?


Birthright citizenship is plain language of the Constitution.
The right to bear arms has been so totally misconstrued and weaponized by the NRA and the right, that even many conservative judges have spoken out about it.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2025 17:32     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


They took him to the hospital in a private vehicle. They didn’t have medics or an ambulance there. He was taken to Timpanogos Regional Medical Center. Sadly, he was most likely dead at that point. I think he died within a minute or two. I think they brought him, pronounced him deceased, and then got the news he had died.


Who pronounced him dead, what doctor?
What was the time of death?
What was the ultimate cause of death?

These are routine facts that should be known at this point.