Anonymous
04/10/2021 20:38
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
For appeal, when it comes to work samples, does the quantity and diversity matter, or should they highlight the child's strength (in my child's case arts, writing)?
Anonymous
04/10/2021 20:12
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
I don’t feel comfortable doing one during covid. It is 2-3 hours in a small room. Also, I feel like the committee won’t care anyway. We did a WISC for older sibling which was awesome and he was still rejected!
My son had a 99th percentile WISC and perfect GBRS. Still rejected. Cause his NNAT was apparently not good enough even though Cogat was good.
This seems really bizarre. Perfect GBRS and good Cogat (assuming in pool) should get you in for second grade
Anonymous
04/10/2021 19:21
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My child is not in AAP
Nnat 127
Dra 24
Gbrs 3CO 1FO
Report card 4s
I haven’t decided to appeal or not.. are you going to appeal ? I am regret to let my child do his work samples by himself. No help from me.
He is an awful writer but really good at math.
He is immature when he was in first grade ( I thought that that’s why his test isn’t good enough)
He is really smart and out of thinker.
His sister got in AAP with nnat 137, cogat 148 , DRA 40, 4CO two years ago.
I don’t think that my daughter is gifted just more mature than her brother , bright and motivated child. But my son, who is not in AAP is different honestly.
I am just disappointed in AAP system.
Why not appeal, nothing to lose. You'll know you tried all you could. AAP is not about giftedness!!!! Most, and I mean 99.9% of the kids in AAP are NOT gifted - that's a totally different ball game. So, in your son's case, I would appeal, why the heck not.
Yes, you should appeal with new work samples. However, I'm unclear why you are disappointed in the AAP system. I don't want to sound harsh but your child didn't get into the pool and didn't receive 4COs, which is kind of a minimum for kids not making the pool. His sister got in two years ago by getting in the pool twice and receiving 4 COs. To me, the system appears to be working as intended. Plenty of kids this year scoring above 132 NNAT with 4 COs but still didn't get in.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 19:00
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
That’s what I thought too. But when you look at the ones who got IN, all had higher NNAT scores. I think they weighed NNAT higher than GBRS because we were all virtual. They probably felt the teacher couldn’t rate properly this year.
This is not true in my DC case who didn't get in. NNAT 137, GBRS= 4 FO from a teacher who only saw him briefly and met him via virtual. The comments were excellent but the ratings only were FO!!! WTF!? If the comments were weak and limited, it'd be one thing but the comments were so specific and raving...but at the end only gave an FO. So, if the committee was looking for high NNAT, that's not it... some other BS subjective crap they are looking for, and I heard it depends WHO in the committee reviews your kids' file...they may get in or not. What a cluster of jokes.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:54
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:My child is not in AAP
Nnat 127
Dra 24
Gbrs 3CO 1FO
Report card 4s
I haven’t decided to appeal or not.. are you going to appeal ? I am regret to let my child do his work samples by himself. No help from me.
He is an awful writer but really good at math.
He is immature when he was in first grade ( I thought that that’s why his test isn’t good enough)
He is really smart and out of thinker.
His sister got in AAP with nnat 137, cogat 148 , DRA 40, 4CO two years ago.
I don’t think that my daughter is gifted just more mature than her brother , bright and motivated child. But my son, who is not in AAP is different honestly.
I am just disappointed in AAP system.
Why not appeal, nothing to lose. You'll know you tried all you could. AAP is not about giftedness!!!! Most, and I mean 99.9% of the kids in AAP are NOT gifted - that's a totally different ball game. So, in your son's case, I would appeal, why the heck not.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:54
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
I don’t feel comfortable doing one during covid. It is 2-3 hours in a small room. Also, I feel like the committee won’t care anyway. We did a WISC for older sibling which was awesome and he was still rejected!
My son had a 99th percentile WISC and perfect GBRS. Still rejected. Cause his NNAT was apparently not good enough even though Cogat was good.
It’s ridiculous how they emphasize the stupid NNAT.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:53
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
That’s what I thought too. But when you look at the ones who got IN, all had higher NNAT scores. I think they weighed NNAT higher than GBRS because we were all virtual. They probably felt the teacher couldn’t rate properly this year.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:53
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
I don’t feel comfortable doing one during covid. It is 2-3 hours in a small room. Also, I feel like the committee won’t care anyway. We did a WISC for older sibling which was awesome and he was still rejected!
My son had a 99th percentile WISC and perfect GBRS. Still rejected. Cause his NNAT was apparently not good enough even though Cogat was good.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:51
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
I don’t feel comfortable doing one during covid. It is 2-3 hours in a small room. Also, I feel like the committee won’t care anyway. We did a WISC for older sibling which was awesome and he was still rejected!
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:49
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
if what you wrote is all true, get a WISC done. I find it hard to believe she didn't get it w/ a raving GBRS. There's more weight on GBRS than NNAT. So, if it's test core an issue, in your opinion, then, have her take the WISC!
Anonymous
04/10/2021 18:46
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
For appeals, would you mention in a letter that an older sibling attends AAP? What should be included in the letter? I am at a loss. My daughter had a perfect GBRS and rave reviews from teacher, max DRA, and checked yes to above grade level for both math and Lang arts on GBRS sheet. Report cards all perfect. She is light years ahead of her peers. Her one downfall was NNAT. Not in pool score. Feeling like we got screwed because she didn’t have the CogAT this year. I am certain she would have done well on CogAT. Any ideas? Thanks.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 17:36
Subject: 2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with that either. Wow...Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think so many smart kids left for private that this is a very easy year to get into level IV.
No, I don't agree with that at all, not my experience this year.
It's a fact that the county lost 9,000 students. Do you think these were low ses kids? Nope. Do you think they are all homeschooled? Nope. The applications for private schools were tripled in some cases. If there are less in the pool competing for AAP, then it will be easier for those in the pool to get in.
They were mostly kindergartners. Sure, some 2nd and 3rd graders may have left for private or homeschool, but not many.
I live in a decent income neighborhood in Vienna (most people making 200k or more) and I don't know a single kid in my children's 2nd or 5th grade classes that left for private. I do know that our next door neighbor did the opposite and switched from private to public despite the fact that the private was in person and public was remote learning. I'm sure some people have switched to private but there's just no way it had a substantial impact on AAP admissions. Wishful thinking from a private school parent, perhaps
No dog in this fight but we are leaving fcps and have not advertised it. Don’t need kids being anxious about it when fall is months away, and don’t want weirdness with neighbors. So I think people are leaving but quietly
Anonymous
04/10/2021 16:24
Subject: Re:2021 AAP Admissions Thread
My child is not in AAP
Nnat 127
Dra 24
Gbrs 3CO 1FO
Report card 4s
I haven’t decided to appeal or not.. are you going to appeal ? I am regret to let my child do his work samples by himself. No help from me.
He is an awful writer but really good at math.
He is immature when he was in first grade ( I thought that that’s why his test isn’t good enough)
He is really smart and out of thinker.
His sister got in AAP with nnat 137, cogat 148 , DRA 40, 4CO two years ago.
I don’t think that my daughter is gifted just more mature than her brother , bright and motivated child. But my son, who is not in AAP is different honestly.
I am just disappointed in AAP system.
Nnat 127
Dra 24
Gbrs 3CO 1FO
Report card 4s
I haven’t decided to appeal or not.. are you going to appeal ? I am regret to let my child do his work samples by himself. No help from me.
He is an awful writer but really good at math.
He is immature when he was in first grade ( I thought that that’s why his test isn’t good enough)
He is really smart and out of thinker.
His sister got in AAP with nnat 137, cogat 148 , DRA 40, 4CO two years ago.
I don’t think that my daughter is gifted just more mature than her brother , bright and motivated child. But my son, who is not in AAP is different honestly.
I am just disappointed in AAP system.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 16:08
Subject: 2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s humorous that you AAP parents keep fighting the fact that the pool of applicants was smaller this year. Cant you just be grateful your kid got in? Why do you need to believe this was a highly competitive year? It wasn’t.
Ok lady! You do not need to tell people how to feel. Competitive year or not is not for you to decide.
Ok, I’ll stop.
Smaller pool (which is debatable) is not the same thing as “the smart kids left,” and I have not seen anyone claim it was a highly competitive year.
Word. Some random lady came in the thread and started trying to convince everyone it was an easy year for AAP. Even though nobody ever said it was hard year, normal year, or really made any comment on it. Then when people started disputing her random claims she decides to reframe it as "all you parents were trying to convince yourselves it was competitive." Uh, no we didn't say anything about that.
Anonymous
04/10/2021 15:54
Subject: 2021 AAP Admissions Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s humorous that you AAP parents keep fighting the fact that the pool of applicants was smaller this year. Cant you just be grateful your kid got in? Why do you need to believe this was a highly competitive year? It wasn’t.
Ok lady! You do not need to tell people how to feel. Competitive year or not is not for you to decide.
Ok, I’ll stop.
Smaller pool (which is debatable) is not the same thing as “the smart kids left,” and I have not seen anyone claim it was a highly competitive year.