Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 23:33     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
+1 If you don't you'll send the message that this can happen again, and again, and again. A month after this happened, the cops were called for a prank played on an elementary school CES kid at PBES. Nothing happened to that principal either.


The cops were called on a child(ren) at PBES in February 2020? Can you share more? I'm a PBES parent and never heard about this. We need to work together to ensure this never happens again to any child at any school.


It was the kid of a parent who filed a complaint. The school was changing student grades without telling anyone / parents. It's a big mess for MCPS, so I doubt you'll hear much about it.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 22:15     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
+1 If you don't you'll send the message that this can happen again, and again, and again. A month after this happened, the cops were called for a prank played on an elementary school CES kid at PBES. Nothing happened to that principal either.


The cops were called on a child(ren) at PBES in February 2020? Can you share more? I'm a PBES parent and never heard about this. We need to work together to ensure this never happens again to any child at any school.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 12:24     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:MCPS has rules about staff chasing kids as well has putting hands on kids. But, what I don't get is they said they cannot put hands on but the child walked into the school with the staff holding her hand so why not ask him to stop, offer her hand and see if he'd go back. MCPS needs to change the policy for very young kids.

I suspect they tried. That's early in the playbook. But a kid in meltdown might not take it.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 11:59     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't see the video, but. . . Thank God the police found the child and he wasn't abducted by a pedofile. And the mother complained to all parties that she "can't beat him?" Sounds like she and her son need therapy, and she should consider a new school where her child can be safe.


You truly need to watch the video before making assumptions. I don't mean that to be snarky. It just can't be understood without watching it.


Agreed. There's a lot going on here, and the school officials absolutely need to be held accountable for their lack of intervention with the cops, but the child was never in danger of being abducted by a pedophile. He had a meltdown so severe that his classmates needed to take cover, and then eloped with a staff member following behind while on the phone with the authorities.

So, the school authorities actually did what they were supposed to do up to a certain point. They had a child with a clear emotional dysregulation issue and were working on an alternative placement, despite the lack of parental cooperation. They called the police when the behavior got to a point that it endangered staff and kids, and then followed procedures by not physically stopping the child from eloping. All of that is in keeping with policy. If you don't want school officials calling the cops in situations like this, you need to change the policy and/or make it easier for a child with that kind of special need to be fast-tracked into an appropriate placement.


MCPS has rules about staff chasing kids as well has putting hands on kids. But, what I don't get is they said they cannot put hands on but the child walked into the school with the staff holding her hand so why not ask him to stop, offer her hand and see if he'd go back. MCPS needs to change the policy for very young kids.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 11:59     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't see the video, but. . . Thank God the police found the child and he wasn't abducted by a pedofile. And the mother complained to all parties that she "can't beat him?" Sounds like she and her son need therapy, and she should consider a new school where her child can be safe.


You truly need to watch the video before making assumptions. I don't mean that to be snarky. It just can't be understood without watching it.


Agreed. There's a lot going on here, and the school officials absolutely need to be held accountable for their lack of intervention with the cops, but the child was never in danger of being abducted by a pedophile. He had a meltdown so severe that his classmates needed to take cover, and then eloped with a staff member following behind while on the phone with the authorities.


Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 10:36     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I didn't see the video, but. . . Thank God the police found the child and he wasn't abducted by a pedofile. And the mother complained to all parties that she "can't beat him?" Sounds like she and her son need therapy, and she should consider a new school where her child can be safe.


You truly need to watch the video before making assumptions. I don't mean that to be snarky. It just can't be understood without watching it.


Agreed. There's a lot going on here, and the school officials absolutely need to be held accountable for their lack of intervention with the cops, but the child was never in danger of being abducted by a pedophile. He had a meltdown so severe that his classmates needed to take cover, and then eloped with a staff member following behind while on the phone with the authorities.

So, the school authorities actually did what they were supposed to do up to a certain point. They had a child with a clear emotional dysregulation issue and were working on an alternative placement, despite the lack of parental cooperation. They called the police when the behavior got to a point that it endangered staff and kids, and then followed procedures by not physically stopping the child from eloping. All of that is in keeping with policy. If you don't want school officials calling the cops in situations like this, you need to change the policy and/or make it easier for a child with that kind of special need to be fast-tracked into an appropriate placement.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 07:16     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:I didn't see the video, but. . . Thank God the police found the child and he wasn't abducted by a pedofile. And the mother complained to all parties that she "can't beat him?" Sounds like she and her son need therapy, and she should consider a new school where her child can be safe.


You truly need to watch the video before making assumptions. I don't mean that to be snarky. It just can't be understood without watching it.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 01:57     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:I didn't see the video, but. . . Thank God the police found the child and he wasn't abducted by a pedofile. And the mother complained to all parties that she "can't beat him?" Sounds like she and her son need therapy, and she should consider a new school where her child can be safe.


The cops were telling her to beat him. They were very inappropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 01:45     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

I didn't see the video, but. . . Thank God the police found the child and he wasn't abducted by a pedofile. And the mother complained to all parties that she "can't beat him?" Sounds like she and her son need therapy, and she should consider a new school where her child can be safe.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 01:11     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:this is dysfunction all around. The mom's excuse is "I want to BEAT him but the schools won't let me" and the cops are yelling at the mom to beat him more.


Right? This kid doesn’t have a hope. Crappy family. Crappy schools. Crappy system. Everyone wants to beat him but can’t. Just incredibly depressing.

Except, albeit slowly, the school was trying to document things to get him a placement.


It shouldn't be ok to video tape kids without parents permission. Who knows how that video will be used or if the phone or where it is stored is hacked. They can document it without shaming the child by holding a phone vs. trying to deescalate the situation. I know we checked the box of do not video record our child and it was done regularly. Teachers would comment (and not bad things but still not ok).

This child is set up to fail in life.


Actually, I thought it's not okay to video tape kids without parent's permission?

Normally Section 10-402 of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article “Interception of communications” makes it a felony with five-year imprisonment / fine? Something like that?



You are misinformed. All patrol officers wear body cameras as the public demanded. Anytime there is an interaction with anyone the camera is activated whether the person is five or 95.


I think they are talking about the video made by the teacher who was showing it to the police officers, not the officer’s body cam. I don’t actually know what the rules are for teachers recording for “educational” purposes.


Correct and the teacher was doing it on her personal phone.

Mom's behavior was appalling as well. She stripped the child of his clothing in front of everyone. She was completely showing off. Not one adult in the room showed any concern for that child, including mom. No one had a safety or behavior conversation.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2021 00:53     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is dysfunction all around. The mom's excuse is "I want to BEAT him but the schools won't let me" and the cops are yelling at the mom to beat him more.


Right? This kid doesn’t have a hope. Crappy family. Crappy schools. Crappy system. Everyone wants to beat him but can’t. Just incredibly depressing.

Except, albeit slowly, the school was trying to document things to get him a placement.


It shouldn't be ok to video tape kids without parents permission. Who knows how that video will be used or if the phone or where it is stored is hacked. They can document it without shaming the child by holding a phone vs. trying to deescalate the situation. I know we checked the box of do not video record our child and it was done regularly. Teachers would comment (and not bad things but still not ok).

This child is set up to fail in life.


Actually, I thought it's not okay to video tape kids without parent's permission?

Normally Section 10-402 of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article “Interception of communications” makes it a felony with five-year imprisonment / fine? Something like that?



You are misinformed. All patrol officers wear body cameras as the public demanded. Anytime there is an interaction with anyone the camera is activated whether the person is five or 95.


I think they are talking about the video made by the teacher who was showing it to the police officers, not the officer’s body cam. I don’t actually know what the rules are for teachers recording for “educational” purposes.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2021 21:13     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is dysfunction all around. The mom's excuse is "I want to BEAT him but the schools won't let me" and the cops are yelling at the mom to beat him more.


Right? This kid doesn’t have a hope. Crappy family. Crappy schools. Crappy system. Everyone wants to beat him but can’t. Just incredibly depressing.

Except, albeit slowly, the school was trying to document things to get him a placement.


It shouldn't be ok to video tape kids without parents permission. Who knows how that video will be used or if the phone or where it is stored is hacked. They can document it without shaming the child by holding a phone vs. trying to deescalate the situation. I know we checked the box of do not video record our child and it was done regularly. Teachers would comment (and not bad things but still not ok).

This child is set up to fail in life.


Teachers and other parents do it all the time and post it. I always check no on the form and email to make it clear and I still find my kid on the websites and from other parents
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2021 21:09     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is dysfunction all around. The mom's excuse is "I want to BEAT him but the schools won't let me" and the cops are yelling at the mom to beat him more.


Right? This kid doesn’t have a hope. Crappy family. Crappy schools. Crappy system. Everyone wants to beat him but can’t. Just incredibly depressing.


This. I truly feel terrible for the kid.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2021 21:06     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is dysfunction all around. The mom's excuse is "I want to BEAT him but the schools won't let me" and the cops are yelling at the mom to beat him more.


Right? This kid doesn’t have a hope. Crappy family. Crappy schools. Crappy system. Everyone wants to beat him but can’t. Just incredibly depressing.

Except, albeit slowly, the school was trying to document things to get him a placement.


It shouldn't be ok to video tape kids without parents permission. Who knows how that video will be used or if the phone or where it is stored is hacked. They can document it without shaming the child by holding a phone vs. trying to deescalate the situation. I know we checked the box of do not video record our child and it was done regularly. Teachers would comment (and not bad things but still not ok).

This child is set up to fail in life.


Actually, I thought it's not okay to video tape kids without parent's permission?

Normally Section 10-402 of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article “Interception of communications” makes it a felony with five-year imprisonment / fine? Something like that?



You are misinformed. All patrol officers wear body cameras as the public demanded. Anytime there is an interaction with anyone the camera is activated whether the person is five or 95.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2021 16:52     Subject: MC police pick up ESS 5 year old; harass & assault him

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:this is dysfunction all around. The mom's excuse is "I want to BEAT him but the schools won't let me" and the cops are yelling at the mom to beat him more.


Right? This kid doesn’t have a hope. Crappy family. Crappy schools. Crappy system. Everyone wants to beat him but can’t. Just incredibly depressing.

Except, albeit slowly, the school was trying to document things to get him a placement.


It shouldn't be ok to video tape kids without parents permission. Who knows how that video will be used or if the phone or where it is stored is hacked. They can document it without shaming the child by holding a phone vs. trying to deescalate the situation. I know we checked the box of do not video record our child and it was done regularly. Teachers would comment (and not bad things but still not ok).

This child is set up to fail in life.


Actually, I thought it's not okay to video tape kids without parent's permission?

Normally Section 10-402 of the Courts and Judicial Proceedings Article “Interception of communications” makes it a felony with five-year imprisonment / fine? Something like that?