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Post 10/24/2020 08:46     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


That is exactly why we cannot open safely.


But why? I know the virus is still here. But we accept that the virus is going to be here for another 18-24 months, and we agree that the status quo is not acceptable for SOME families, then what's to be done?

The numbers are good right now and well within health recommendations to begin re-opening.

If not now, then when?


You realize the issue is that you are acting in a selfish way now putting your needs first so we cannot reopen as your unsafe behavior impacts everyone. You are back to normal and your normal is part of why the virus is spreading. If we could have stayed on lock down and stopped the spread maybe we could have safely gone back.


You say I'm acting selfish, I say I'm doing what's right for my family. For 6 months we put the needs of everyone else first and nobody even have a passing thought to the health or who being of my family or my children. It's been all about them.

Well, after seeing my children spiral into depression, I'm putting them first, not my hypothetical obese asthmatic neighbor.

So yeah, we'll play soccer and baseball and softball and go to the playground.

Because I'm done caring about my neighbors when they don't have the decency to do the same for us


What is going on with your family if spending time together and staying home creates depression? You sound like a nasty person and that’s probably why it’s not working and why we cannot return! You’d be the parent to send your sick kid anywhere for a break.


DP. You think this person sounds nasty? I really think you sound nasty by being so judgmental. You're completely following the playbook that goes, "What's wrong with you? Try being a good parent like me. Why did you have kids in the first place? You just want free childcare." Did I get the whole spiel right?


It's probably one person posting all those messages across threads.


It is the same person. It is a teacher who haunts this threads shredding Parents for wanting their kids to go back to class in schools and receive a real education like the country and the rest of the entire world for God’s sake. This posters writing style is very obvious. A very sick and twisted person with no empathy for families or children who are struggling. A total psycho. Ignore.


I know it would be really convenient for you if only one person disagreed with you, but it's not true. I didn't post this, but agree with it and have made similar posts on other threads.

-- a parent, not a teacher


I'm sure it'd be convenient for you if only one person wanted to persist with DL. But it's certainly not. The bad outcomes, the burnout, the disengagement, and so on are starting to build, and we're not even out of October.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 08:41     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Biden is a “weekend at Bernies” President
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Post 10/24/2020 01:03     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:January 2022 at the earliest


I think we'll go back in the Fall. (someone who likes DL)
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Post 10/24/2020 00:50     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


That is exactly why we cannot open safely.


But why? I know the virus is still here. But we accept that the virus is going to be here for another 18-24 months, and we agree that the status quo is not acceptable for SOME families, then what's to be done?

The numbers are good right now and well within health recommendations to begin re-opening.

If not now, then when?


You realize the issue is that you are acting in a selfish way now putting your needs first so we cannot reopen as your unsafe behavior impacts everyone. You are back to normal and your normal is part of why the virus is spreading. If we could have stayed on lock down and stopped the spread maybe we could have safely gone back.


You say I'm acting selfish, I say I'm doing what's right for my family. For 6 months we put the needs of everyone else first and nobody even have a passing thought to the health or who being of my family or my children. It's been all about them.

Well, after seeing my children spiral into depression, I'm putting them first, not my hypothetical obese asthmatic neighbor.

So yeah, we'll play soccer and baseball and softball and go to the playground.

Because I'm done caring about my neighbors when they don't have the decency to do the same for us


What is going on with your family if spending time together and staying home creates depression? You sound like a nasty person and that’s probably why it’s not working and why we cannot return! You’d be the parent to send your sick kid anywhere for a break.


DP. You think this person sounds nasty? I really think you sound nasty by being so judgmental. You're completely following the playbook that goes, "What's wrong with you? Try being a good parent like me. Why did you have kids in the first place? You just want free childcare." Did I get the whole spiel right?


It's probably one person posting all those messages across threads.


It is the same person. It is a teacher who haunts this threads shredding Parents for wanting their kids to go back to class in schools and receive a real education like the country and the rest of the entire world for God’s sake. This posters writing style is very obvious. A very sick and twisted person with no empathy for families or children who are struggling. A total psycho. Ignore.


I know it would be really convenient for you if only one person disagreed with you, but it's not true. I didn't post this, but agree with it and have made similar posts on other threads.

-- a parent, not a teacher
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 00:47     Subject: Re:We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.


Thats exactly why we need to stay closed. You clearly know how busy places are as you are going and you are part of the problem. Bring your own wipes.

Not one person can suggest a clear plan to safely go back.
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Post 10/24/2020 00:42     Subject: Re:We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Most of the precautions from spring are gone. retail, grocery, etc is back to normal. costco is a madhouse, no wipes for your carts, malls are busy. I see people dining inside restaurants. people out and about. beer farms and wineries have lines to get in, kids doing sports, ...
for many people, it is almost business as usual except wear a mask.
considering all of the above, schools need to open.
Anonymous
Post 10/23/2020 22:46     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

January 2022 at the earliest
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Post 10/23/2020 22:29     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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The point is that the virus doesn't need to vanish in order for schools to open. Because if that is the standard, we won't have school for years. What we need to do is what European countries have done: decide that school (i.e. in person) needs to happen full time and find a way to do it as safely as possible. That's why European kids are in school and are staying in school despite rising cases, because schools have NOT BEEN SHOWN TO DRIVE THE SPREAD. If you actually cared about data, you'd know that. Schools might close if there is a full lockdown, but Europeans will not tolerate a situation where schools are closed and restaurants and gyms are open. You are the one hoping for magic if you think the virus must disappear before schools can ever open again.


People are talking like everyone all over Europe is doing the same thing...

Anyway:

https://twitter.com/HannahFurfaro/status/1319804068932378624

"Breaking: Seattle schools won't return for in-person learning (except a small number of children who receive sped services) until at least late Jan. 2021" with a link to a story in the Seattle Times.
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Post 10/23/2020 20:58     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


Which parts of life have returned to normal?


Ok, normal was a stretch, but almost everything has returned in some capacity.

Work. Restaurants. Entertainment. Sports. Gyms. All back in some capacity.

Except schools. We've permitted ALL of those. And we drag our feet on schools.

Besides, schools, what hasn't returned in some capacity?


The common denominator is that all those other places don't have crazy unions running around shrieking.


No, the common denominator is they are all smaller scales. Schools are 500-3000 kids and a good number of the buildings are not safe and cannot be retrofitted.


Exactly. I don’t know why this is so hard for some people to grasp.
I went to the doctor last week. There were only three other people in the waiting room. When I visited with the doctor, she was wearing an N95 mask, a shield, and gloves. I was wearing a mask. My temperature was taken before I could see the doctor. I had to use hand sanitizer. I was the only person in the room with the doctor. All of this for a 20 minute visit. I felt safe. Will the schools be equipped to keep students and staff safe?


Thank you!

This is true for us as well. Even the staff are socially distancing within in the office. They spread shifts out and now one of the three who handle calls and records works remotely every day. They rotate. On any given day, there’s no more than 7 people in the office at once. 2 staff, 2 doctors, and 3 patients. Schools are planning on 15 students and 1 teacher.


They can plan anything they want but how on earth will they accomplish that? We have 35 kids in our classes.
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Post 10/23/2020 20:53     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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Anonymous wrote:Complain to Trump and his supporters.

Trump President no school period. This will last at least another four years. Trumpers no school, no jobs, no anything is on you.

So no reason for these threads we are not going back with any consistency. Trump is a liar, cheat and his cult followers destroying us. If you haven't figured that out yet you are completely dumb.


If this is your level of analysis with all of the information before you, I don’t think you should be calling anyone “dumb.”


At least he has resigned himself to the fact that Trump will win re-election.


Um

https://www.voanews.com/2020-usa-votes/polls-show-biden-leading-trump-millions-ballots-cast

With 15 days remaining before the U.S. presidential election, Democratic challenger Joe Biden continues to lead in national polling against Republican President Donald Trump and millions of Americans are casting early ballots.

Poll aggregators show Biden, the former vice president and a fixture on the U.S. political scene for nearly a half century, with a 9- or 10-percentage point lead nationally and perhaps half that lead in key battleground states that will determine the outcome.


No president can really fix this except to put us under quarantine. Biden isn't going to do that.


Thank you. I keep saying that but people really don't understand the structure of public health in the US, and the options available.
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Post 10/23/2020 18:13     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


That is exactly why we cannot open safely.


But why? I know the virus is still here. But we accept that the virus is going to be here for another 18-24 months, and we agree that the status quo is not acceptable for SOME families, then what's to be done?

The numbers are good right now and well within health recommendations to begin re-opening.

If not now, then when?


You realize the issue is that you are acting in a selfish way now putting your needs first so we cannot reopen as your unsafe behavior impacts everyone. You are back to normal and your normal is part of why the virus is spreading. If we could have stayed on lock down and stopped the spread maybe we could have safely gone back.


You say I'm acting selfish, I say I'm doing what's right for my family. For 6 months we put the needs of everyone else first and nobody even have a passing thought to the health or who being of my family or my children. It's been all about them.

Well, after seeing my children spiral into depression, I'm putting them first, not my hypothetical obese asthmatic neighbor.

So yeah, we'll play soccer and baseball and softball and go to the playground.

Because I'm done caring about my neighbors when they don't have the decency to do the same for us


What is going on with your family if spending time together and staying home creates depression? You sound like a nasty person and that’s probably why it’s not working and why we cannot return! You’d be the parent to send your sick kid anywhere for a break.


DP. You think this person sounds nasty? I really think you sound nasty by being so judgmental. You're completely following the playbook that goes, "What's wrong with you? Try being a good parent like me. Why did you have kids in the first place? You just want free childcare." Did I get the whole spiel right?


It's probably one person posting all those messages across threads.


It is odd that there are so many posts here stating the same thing over and over but when there have been protests for this only a handful of people showed up. This indicates there's very little real support.


Not one person demanding we can go back safely can suggest a plan to get us back safely.


They just magically think my kids should be in school and like magic the virus just vanishes!


The point is that the virus doesn't need to vanish in order for schools to open. Because if that is the standard, we won't have school for years. What we need to do is what European countries have done: decide that school (i.e. in person) needs to happen full time and find a way to do it as safely as possible. That's why European kids are in school and are staying in school despite rising cases, because schools have NOT BEEN SHOWN TO DRIVE THE SPREAD. If you actually cared about data, you'd know that. Schools might close if there is a full lockdown, but Europeans will not tolerate a situation where schools are closed and restaurants and gyms are open. You are the one hoping for magic if you think the virus must disappear before schools can ever open again.


Require vaccines for school entry. That will make schools safe even if the vaccine isn't 100%
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Post 10/23/2020 06:26     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


That is exactly why we cannot open safely.


But why? I know the virus is still here. But we accept that the virus is going to be here for another 18-24 months, and we agree that the status quo is not acceptable for SOME families, then what's to be done?

The numbers are good right now and well within health recommendations to begin re-opening.

If not now, then when?


You realize the issue is that you are acting in a selfish way now putting your needs first so we cannot reopen as your unsafe behavior impacts everyone. You are back to normal and your normal is part of why the virus is spreading. If we could have stayed on lock down and stopped the spread maybe we could have safely gone back.


You say I'm acting selfish, I say I'm doing what's right for my family. For 6 months we put the needs of everyone else first and nobody even have a passing thought to the health or who being of my family or my children. It's been all about them.

Well, after seeing my children spiral into depression, I'm putting them first, not my hypothetical obese asthmatic neighbor.

So yeah, we'll play soccer and baseball and softball and go to the playground.

Because I'm done caring about my neighbors when they don't have the decency to do the same for us


What is going on with your family if spending time together and staying home creates depression? You sound like a nasty person and that’s probably why it’s not working and why we cannot return! You’d be the parent to send your sick kid anywhere for a break.


DP. You think this person sounds nasty? I really think you sound nasty by being so judgmental. You're completely following the playbook that goes, "What's wrong with you? Try being a good parent like me. Why did you have kids in the first place? You just want free childcare." Did I get the whole spiel right?


It's probably one person posting all those messages across threads.


It is odd that there are so many posts here stating the same thing over and over but when there have been protests for this only a handful of people showed up. This indicates there's very little real support.


Not one person demanding we can go back safely can suggest a plan to get us back safely.


They just magically think my kids should be in school and like magic the virus just vanishes!


The point is that the virus doesn't need to vanish in order for schools to open. Because if that is the standard, we won't have school for years. What we need to do is what European countries have done: decide that school (i.e. in person) needs to happen full time and find a way to do it as safely as possible. That's why European kids are in school and are staying in school despite rising cases, because schools have NOT BEEN SHOWN TO DRIVE THE SPREAD. If you actually cared about data, you'd know that. Schools might close if there is a full lockdown, but Europeans will not tolerate a situation where schools are closed and restaurants and gyms are open. You are the one hoping for magic if you think the virus must disappear before schools can ever open again.
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Post 10/22/2020 18:59     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


That is exactly why we cannot open safely.


But why? I know the virus is still here. But we accept that the virus is going to be here for another 18-24 months, and we agree that the status quo is not acceptable for SOME families, then what's to be done?

The numbers are good right now and well within health recommendations to begin re-opening.

If not now, then when?


You realize the issue is that you are acting in a selfish way now putting your needs first so we cannot reopen as your unsafe behavior impacts everyone. You are back to normal and your normal is part of why the virus is spreading. If we could have stayed on lock down and stopped the spread maybe we could have safely gone back.


You say I'm acting selfish, I say I'm doing what's right for my family. For 6 months we put the needs of everyone else first and nobody even have a passing thought to the health or who being of my family or my children. It's been all about them.

Well, after seeing my children spiral into depression, I'm putting them first, not my hypothetical obese asthmatic neighbor.

So yeah, we'll play soccer and baseball and softball and go to the playground.

Because I'm done caring about my neighbors when they don't have the decency to do the same for us


What is going on with your family if spending time together and staying home creates depression? You sound like a nasty person and that’s probably why it’s not working and why we cannot return! You’d be the parent to send your sick kid anywhere for a break.


DP. You think this person sounds nasty? I really think you sound nasty by being so judgmental. You're completely following the playbook that goes, "What's wrong with you? Try being a good parent like me. Why did you have kids in the first place? You just want free childcare." Did I get the whole spiel right?


It's probably one person posting all those messages across threads.


It is odd that there are so many posts here stating the same thing over and over but when there have been protests for this only a handful of people showed up. This indicates there's very little real support.


Not one person demanding we can go back safely can suggest a plan to get us back safely.


They just magically think my kids should be in school and like magic the virus just vanishes!
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Post 10/22/2020 18:23     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

Anonymous wrote:
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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


Which parts of life have returned to normal?


Ok, normal was a stretch, but almost everything has returned in some capacity.

Work. Restaurants. Entertainment. Sports. Gyms. All back in some capacity.

Except schools. We've permitted ALL of those. And we drag our feet on schools.

Besides, schools, what hasn't returned in some capacity?


The common denominator is that all those other places don't have crazy unions running around shrieking.


No, the common denominator is they are all smaller scales. Schools are 500-3000 kids and a good number of the buildings are not safe and cannot be retrofitted.


Exactly. I don’t know why this is so hard for some people to grasp.
I went to the doctor last week. There were only three other people in the waiting room. When I visited with the doctor, she was wearing an N95 mask, a shield, and gloves. I was wearing a mask. My temperature was taken before I could see the doctor. I had to use hand sanitizer. I was the only person in the room with the doctor. All of this for a 20 minute visit. I felt safe. Will the schools be equipped to keep students and staff safe?


Thank you!

This is true for us as well. Even the staff are socially distancing within in the office. They spread shifts out and now one of the three who handle calls and records works remotely every day. They rotate. On any given day, there’s no more than 7 people in the office at once. 2 staff, 2 doctors, and 3 patients. Schools are planning on 15 students and 1 teacher.
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Post 10/22/2020 12:45     Subject: We are NEVER going back until covid is 100% gone - MCPS has no leadership

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I think it was closer to 10

But with SO much of life returned to normal, its difficult for people to make a protest at 3:00 on a workday. We shouldn't a failed rally to reflect the will of the county


SO much of life returned to normal, huh?

It's always hard to for people to make a protest at 3:00 pm on a workday, which kinda raises the question: what fools would decide that 3:00 pm on a workday was a good time to have a protest?


Well, yeah, so much has. Outside of schools, most everything has returned in some capacity. What else hasn't?


If that's your standard for normal life, I don't know what to say.


You can start by stop being obtuse. I clearly said "returned in some capacity". I didnt say returned to normal life.

So what, outside of schools, has not returned in some capacity?


That is exactly why we cannot open safely.


But why? I know the virus is still here. But we accept that the virus is going to be here for another 18-24 months, and we agree that the status quo is not acceptable for SOME families, then what's to be done?

The numbers are good right now and well within health recommendations to begin re-opening.

If not now, then when?


You realize the issue is that you are acting in a selfish way now putting your needs first so we cannot reopen as your unsafe behavior impacts everyone. You are back to normal and your normal is part of why the virus is spreading. If we could have stayed on lock down and stopped the spread maybe we could have safely gone back.


You say I'm acting selfish, I say I'm doing what's right for my family. For 6 months we put the needs of everyone else first and nobody even have a passing thought to the health or who being of my family or my children. It's been all about them.

Well, after seeing my children spiral into depression, I'm putting them first, not my hypothetical obese asthmatic neighbor.

So yeah, we'll play soccer and baseball and softball and go to the playground.

Because I'm done caring about my neighbors when they don't have the decency to do the same for us


What is going on with your family if spending time together and staying home creates depression? You sound like a nasty person and that’s probably why it’s not working and why we cannot return! You’d be the parent to send your sick kid anywhere for a break.


DP. You think this person sounds nasty? I really think you sound nasty by being so judgmental. You're completely following the playbook that goes, "What's wrong with you? Try being a good parent like me. Why did you have kids in the first place? You just want free childcare." Did I get the whole spiel right?


It's probably one person posting all those messages across threads.


It is odd that there are so many posts here stating the same thing over and over but when there have been protests for this only a handful of people showed up. This indicates there's very little real support.


Not one person demanding we can go back safely can suggest a plan to get us back safely.