Anonymous
04/16/2020 16:56
Subject: Re:DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
^ 
The rankings only matter when it reflects well on them. Now it doesn’t matter they say because those clubs that have a much better record will not be in the super special league and yet they will be no matter how poorly they finish or how often they get beaten. They are the first to sh@t on other clubs not focused on wins below U12. It just happens that stats weren’t in their favor this time.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure this out. U12 is the age they start to suffer. U12 pre-da is the current red team. The older former DA teams (U14/15/16) have mostly players that did not play for Arlington U9-U12. They were developed elsewhere. It would have played out that they would bring a lot of new players over when the official DA years start, demote current players and you would see team stats start to improve. Juries out if they will still have kids driving out of their way if they don’t advertise play in an exclusionary league when things start up.
The rankings only matter when it reflects well on them. Now it doesn’t matter they say because those clubs that have a much better record will not be in the super special league and yet they will be no matter how poorly they finish or how often they get beaten. They are the first to sh@t on other clubs not focused on wins below U12. It just happens that stats weren’t in their favor this time.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure this out. U12 is the age they start to suffer. U12 pre-da is the current red team. The older former DA teams (U14/15/16) have mostly players that did not play for Arlington U9-U12. They were developed elsewhere. It would have played out that they would bring a lot of new players over when the official DA years start, demote current players and you would see team stats start to improve. Juries out if they will still have kids driving out of their way if they don’t advertise play in an exclusionary league when things start up.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 16:18
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
They certainly got competitive games in EDP, They finished towards the bottom of the division.
Yeah. Boys U12 EDP Fall season results:
U12
Rank Team Score
1 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY BLUE [23] 33.65
2 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY BLUE [44] 33.07
3 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [109] 32.19
4 ST MARYS SOCCER STRIKERS RED [154] 31.83
5 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY WHITE [205] 31.53
6 MSI ACADEMY GREEN [216] 31.51
7 ARUNDEL SA KIN [253] 31.34
8 POTOMAC SA BLUE [289] 31.17
9 COPPERMINE SC PREMIER [308] 31.09
10 TOTAL FC GOLD [450] 30.52
1 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [52] 32.80
2 RICHMOND UNITED BLUE [57] 32.71
3 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNL BLUE [105] 32.23
4 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER VDA EAST NPL [115] 32.17
5 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNLBLUE [156] 31.83
6 HERNDON YS AJAX BLACK [174] 31.69
7 RICHMOND UNITED WHITE [266] 31.28
8 VIENNA YS EAGLES [366] 30.84
9 ARLINGTON SA B DA1 [368] 30.84
10 RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE [372] 30.83
This is pointless. You are either going to be in a MLS academy or you are just playing soccer. The rankings for the boys side are meaningless
I think that all but one or so are year are just playing soccer, even in the MLS academies. Get real. Either you are in Europe or Latin America by 15-16 or you are trying to grab a scholarship. I think older rankings are just going to confirm that a lot of teams are competitive with your DA teams, notwithstanding your gibberish. Keep your head in the sand.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 16:02
Subject: Re:DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If FCV was joining ECNL or some new league, why are parents still reaching out to ECNL clubs, looking for a landing place for their girls?
Because parents don’t yet know what their club is doing?
The parents don't know what they're doing because FCV doesn't know what they're doing.
Some of you believed that the DA was to big to fail? Strike One
Some of you believe that FCV held a special place? Strike Two
Some of you believe that FCV had a plan? Strike Three
Let me shed some light.
You are a paying customer. The Club does not want to lose you. Without customers the Club doesn't exist. There is no social welfare for soccer clubs. They are attempting to manage their customers with the amount of information that is leaked.
Them telling you they didn't know this was going to happen is a sales pitch. They knew it was coming. If not, they were incompetent.
Them telling you they have a plan without announcing it is sales pitch #2. it means they're scrambling to survive.
MLS told USSF for years they were dropping out and forming there own league.
MLS announcing on the same day as the DA announcement was orchestrated and not a reaction to the news.
There is no plans for MLS to run a girls academy. If they did (or do), it wont be for anyone but the oldest age groups.
If FCV was offered an ECNL spot they would have taken it.
I think this hits a lot of true statements pretty well, but some extra emphasis on the last line. If FCV was offered an ECNL spot, they absolutely would have taken it. And if they even took time to "think" about it, they don't know what they're doing.
Devil's advocate here - Since FCV was "removed" from NPL (aka ECNL RL) a few months ago, how could they be accepted into ECNL? I'm really curious since it seems ironic that they chose to leave a pathway to ECNL on the table right before DA imploded...
Is EDP the only other viable option for FCV?
What about MU? What will they do?
My guess is that ECNL Regional and ECNL are completely different. I can't imagine that the big wigs at ECNL are communicating at all with teams like Vienna, CYA, Stafford... I bet ECNL regional teams have their own thing going. And this is just speculation but I'm guessing FCV was kicked out of the regional league because they were not treating it the same way as the other teams. Especially at the younger ages where all the teams have their top team playing FCV would have a team from a younger age group playing. It's kind of a slap in the face to everyone else. They are saying they are so good they play their younger teams against your top team. I bet ECNL Regional said to cut it out and they said we will just go to NCSL because McLean and BRYC are doing it over there!
ECNL would be crazy to not let FCV in. Especially in the 4 older age groups the FCV teams will be competing for the #1 spot every year.
[Narrator] ECNL in fact did NOT let FCV in.
Makes sense about the age groups. I'm curious to see what FCV decides to do and if they will be invited to ECNL after the dust has settled.
FCV is not going to be invited to the ECNL. It does not matter how well there teams would do. The powers that be know that the players who would otherwise play at FCV will now play at Loudoun (and to a lesser extent other ECNL clubs).
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:55
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
As part of the training league-wide, most all the U12 pre-academy teams last Fall played "mixed teams" with kids from team 1 and 2 mixed together to give kids different experiences at different positions and with different teammates. This was usually agreed to between the coaches of the various clubs prior to the matches, though sometimes they would do something different (especially when a club basically only had 'one' team's worth of players). Generally, you see this in results where one week a team wins relatively easily and the next week loses to the 'same' team. There was a lot of shuffling going on. The Spring was when the clubs were going to play with a strong team one and a weaker team two, but that fell apart.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:30
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
They certainly got competitive games in EDP, They finished towards the bottom of the division.
Yeah. Boys U12 EDP Fall season results:
U12
Rank Team Score
1 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY BLUE [23] 33.65
2 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY BLUE [44] 33.07
3 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [109] 32.19
4 ST MARYS SOCCER STRIKERS RED [154] 31.83
5 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY WHITE [205] 31.53
6 MSI ACADEMY GREEN [216] 31.51
7 ARUNDEL SA KIN [253] 31.34
8 POTOMAC SA BLUE [289] 31.17
9 COPPERMINE SC PREMIER [308] 31.09
10 TOTAL FC GOLD [450] 30.52
1 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [52] 32.80
2 RICHMOND UNITED BLUE [57] 32.71
3 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNL BLUE [105] 32.23
4 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER VDA EAST NPL [115] 32.17
5 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNLBLUE [156] 31.83
6 HERNDON YS AJAX BLACK [174] 31.69
7 RICHMOND UNITED WHITE [266] 31.28
8 VIENNA YS EAGLES [366] 30.84
9 ARLINGTON SA B DA1 [368] 30.84
10 RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE [372] 30.83
This is pointless. You are either going to be in a MLS academy or you are just playing soccer. The rankings for the boys side are meaningless
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:29
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
They certainly got competitive games in EDP, They finished towards the bottom of the division.
Yeah. Boys U12 EDP Fall season results:
U12
Rank Team Score
1 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY BLUE [23] 33.65
2 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY BLUE [44] 33.07
3 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [109] 32.19
4 ST MARYS SOCCER STRIKERS RED [154] 31.83
5 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY WHITE [205] 31.53
6 MSI ACADEMY GREEN [216] 31.51
7 ARUNDEL SA KIN [253] 31.34
8 POTOMAC SA BLUE [289] 31.17
9 COPPERMINE SC PREMIER [308] 31.09
10 TOTAL FC GOLD [450] 30.52
1 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [52] 32.80
2 RICHMOND UNITED BLUE [57] 32.71
3 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNL BLUE [105] 32.23
4 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER VDA EAST NPL [115] 32.17
5 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNLBLUE [156] 31.83
6 HERNDON YS AJAX BLACK [174] 31.69
7 RICHMOND UNITED WHITE [266] 31.28
8 VIENNA YS EAGLES [366] 30.84
9 ARLINGTON SA B DA1 [368] 30.84
10 RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE [372] 30.83
I think these are just rankings in MD and VA, not the EDP results. But the general point remains valid.
And I do not necessarily think finishing near the bottom of a great league or not winning constantly at U13 should matter. It can suggest a longer term approach to development. But the rankings give you a sense of a lot of other clubs that are competitive in the area across numerous leagues, which is why having an open league format with promotion and relegation makes a lot of sense.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:26
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
They certainly got competitive games in EDP, They finished towards the bottom of the division.
Yeah. Boys U12 EDP Fall season results:
U12
Rank Team Score
1 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY BLUE [23] 33.65
2 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY BLUE [44] 33.07
3 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [109] 32.19
4 ST MARYS SOCCER STRIKERS RED [154] 31.83
5 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY WHITE [205] 31.53
6 MSI ACADEMY GREEN [216] 31.51
7 ARUNDEL SA KIN [253] 31.34
8 POTOMAC SA BLUE [289] 31.17
9 COPPERMINE SC PREMIER [308] 31.09
10 TOTAL FC GOLD [450] 30.52
1 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [52] 32.80
2 RICHMOND UNITED BLUE [57] 32.71
3 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNL BLUE [105] 32.23
4 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER VDA EAST NPL [115] 32.17
5 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNLBLUE [156] 31.83
6 HERNDON YS AJAX BLACK [174] 31.69
7 RICHMOND UNITED WHITE [266] 31.28
8 VIENNA YS EAGLES [366] 30.84
9 ARLINGTON SA B DA1 [368] 30.84
10 RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE [372] 30.83
I think these are just rankings in MD and VA, not the EDP results. But the general point remains valid.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:19
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
They certainly got competitive games in EDP, They finished towards the bottom of the division.
Yeah. Boys U12 EDP Fall season results:
U12
Rank Team Score
1 SA OF COLUMBIA PRE ACADEMY BLUE [23] 33.65
2 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY BLUE [44] 33.07
3 BALTIMORE UNION SC ELITE [109] 32.19
4 ST MARYS SOCCER STRIKERS RED [154] 31.83
5 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY WHITE [205] 31.53
6 MSI ACADEMY GREEN [216] 31.51
7 ARUNDEL SA KIN [253] 31.34
8 POTOMAC SA BLUE [289] 31.17
9 COPPERMINE SC PREMIER [308] 31.09
10 TOTAL FC GOLD [450] 30.52
1 ALEXANDRIA SA RED [52] 32.80
2 RICHMOND UNITED BLUE [57] 32.71
3 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNL BLUE [105] 32.23
4 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER VDA EAST NPL [115] 32.17
5 LOUDOUN SC SOCCER PRE ECNLBLUE [156] 31.83
6 HERNDON YS AJAX BLACK [174] 31.69
7 RICHMOND UNITED WHITE [266] 31.28
8 VIENNA YS EAGLES [366] 30.84
9 ARLINGTON SA B DA1 [368] 30.84
10 RICHMOND STRIKERS ELITE [372] 30.83
Anonymous
04/16/2020 15:15
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
They certainly got competitive games in EDP, They finished towards the bottom of the division.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:55
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.
FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).
Same here, with concerns about ECNL competition level. EDP seems a better option.
Which is perfectly logical. ECNL gives you more access to a national league, playing in our region, then playoffs against the top teams in other regions with lots of college attention. Girls side already established. Boys side would be pulled up to this quickly and become a top recruiting league (I would think) for semi-pro, pro academies for MLS. EDP is a decent league in an area, but so is CCL, ODSL, etc etc. All local leagues if you don’t want to travel much.
FWIW I think in 2 years boys ECNL will be much better. Good teams are signing up. If you have an older boy EDP might be better for now but if you have a younger one I think ECNL will end up being better. Currently most EDP teams are Maryland and up north and have a different HS season. You probably never considered HS soccer because you have been brainwashed by the DA that it's a waste but I think you will be surprised at how many boys are going to consider doing it now that it is no longer forbidden.
Whatever was said on this Board by Arlington (U12 red-obsessed) haters, we are not with Arlington for the badge but for the quality of coaching and of the competition.
Stop with your patronizing, DA was not an obstacle to HS soccer, with many players doing both, even of the second is crap.
Enjoy your shiny ECNL badge, South Carolina, and your college scholarship.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:43
Subject: Re:DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:What about the letter from US Youth Soccer? Any ideas what it means?
https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/assets/1/20/usys_announcement_041520.pdf?28299
It just shows how totally messed up the system is with so many different organizations vying for the title of 'elite league'.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:05
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
THat worked because they were able to get other boys teams to join - not sure it is true on the girls side. And even so, the boys were still missing some of the better teams in the area, and half of the clubs were simply not that strong. They can improve that model if they work at it. It's the right idea, and now they need to get past the club-based, non-relegation crap that makes ECNL and CCL noncompetitive.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 13:03
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
GIRLS PATH
REC-TRAVEL-ECNL-COLLEGE-YNT-NT
ECNL-PRO-NT
ECNL-YNT-COLLEGE-PRO-NT
ECNL-YNT-NT
BOYS PATH-
REC-TRAVEL/EDP-ECNL- (Follow girls path above with MLS . Academy option added after ECNL.
REC-TRAVEL-ECNL-COLLEGE-YNT-NT
ECNL-PRO-NT
ECNL-YNT-COLLEGE-PRO-NT
ECNL-YNT-NT
BOYS PATH-
REC-TRAVEL/EDP-ECNL- (Follow girls path above with MLS . Academy option added after ECNL.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 12:59
Subject: DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?
Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.
Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.
Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.
Why do they need to both come in? Bethesda's boys are not in. VDA's did not until recently. It's a reflection of both the ECNL's arrogance to demand both and the relative weakness of the boys side. Just more nonsense if true. Who needs that crap.
Boys ECNL is not to the level of the girls. If they can force Arlington to bring their boys that would certainly improve it. In the past they did not have the leverage that they have now. Is it for certain that Bethesda boys are not joining ECNL? Does anyone know what their plans are?
All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.
High school age kids cannot have an aligned season between VA and MD because of High School soccer
Understand this.
That may change. There most likely will not be a fall season for soccer this year. Bet both will play spring high school soccer.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 12:59
Subject: Re:DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If FCV was joining ECNL or some new league, why are parents still reaching out to ECNL clubs, looking for a landing place for their girls?
Because parents don’t yet know what their club is doing?
The parents don't know what they're doing because FCV doesn't know what they're doing.
Some of you believed that the DA was to big to fail? Strike One
Some of you believe that FCV held a special place? Strike Two
Some of you believe that FCV had a plan? Strike Three
Let me shed some light.
You are a paying customer. The Club does not want to lose you. Without customers the Club doesn't exist. There is no social welfare for soccer clubs. They are attempting to manage their customers with the amount of information that is leaked.
Them telling you they didn't know this was going to happen is a sales pitch. They knew it was coming. If not, they were incompetent.
Them telling you they have a plan without announcing it is sales pitch #2. it means they're scrambling to survive.
MLS told USSF for years they were dropping out and forming there own league.
MLS announcing on the same day as the DA announcement was orchestrated and not a reaction to the news.
There is no plans for MLS to run a girls academy. If they did (or do), it wont be for anyone but the oldest age groups.
If FCV was offered an ECNL spot they would have taken it.
I think this hits a lot of true statements pretty well, but some extra emphasis on the last line. If FCV was offered an ECNL spot, they absolutely would have taken it. And if they even took time to "think" about it, they don't know what they're doing.
Devil's advocate here - Since FCV was "removed" from NPL (aka ECNL RL) a few months ago, how could they be accepted into ECNL? I'm really curious since it seems ironic that they chose to leave a pathway to ECNL on the table right before DA imploded...
Is EDP the only other viable option for FCV?
What about MU? What will they do?
My guess is that ECNL Regional and ECNL are completely different. I can't imagine that the big wigs at ECNL are communicating at all with teams like Vienna, CYA, Stafford... I bet ECNL regional teams have their own thing going. And this is just speculation but I'm guessing FCV was kicked out of the regional league because they were not treating it the same way as the other teams. Especially at the younger ages where all the teams have their top team playing FCV would have a team from a younger age group playing. It's kind of a slap in the face to everyone else. They are saying they are so good they play their younger teams against your top team. I bet ECNL Regional said to cut it out and they said we will just go to NCSL because McLean and BRYC are doing it over there!
ECNL would be crazy to not let FCV in. Especially in the 4 older age groups the FCV teams will be competing for the #1 spot every year.
[Narrator] ECNL in fact did NOT let FCV in.
Makes sense about the age groups. I'm curious to see what FCV decides to do and if they will be invited to ECNL after the dust has settled.