Here's a 3rd

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/jack-evans-scandal-revives-push-to-ban-outside-jobs-for-dc-council-members/2019/04/02/5b8ed384-5564-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html---

Here's another (DC) -

https://dcist.com/story/19/04/02/after-ethics-scandal-d-c-council-could-nix-lawmakers-second-jobs/

Here you go -
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-03-09-hd-40719-story.html

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Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

You already undermined your argument.

Are you having a conversation with someone imaginary? You claimed that legislators having outside work "is not typical in American civic affairs." I responded, with evidence, that it is not.

Yeah, every article + comment says that works well in small towns. NOT major cities, especially one that ahem aspire to the status and responsibilities of statehood and certainly not where, as you pointed out, you are being properly compensated to focus on civic duties. You are right, THAT is atypical and unappreciated by our Council.

What articles? What comments? Who said anything about small towns? You really are having a conversation with someone imaginary.

Most of America is smaller cities and towns, but big city folk don't realize that.

Still waiting for those articles, comments, and an explanation of your small towns non sequitur. I'd appreciate it if you responded to me, not somebody imaginary.

"I[b] live in a small town where almost all of the council members have full time jobs. There is also the question of whether being on the council would be a conflict of interest because of your employment; your city officials would be the one to let you know if this is an issue."

From Quora.

So maybe DC ("the 51st state LOL") isn't as big and complicated to run as we all thought it was? And maybe there are no conflicts for Councilmembers who serve term after term?

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Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

You already undermined your argument.

Are you having a conversation with someone imaginary? You claimed that legislators having outside work "is not typical in American civic affairs." I responded, with evidence, that it is not.

Yeah, every article + comment says that works well in small towns. NOT major cities, especially one that ahem aspire to the status and responsibilities of statehood and certainly not where, as you pointed out, you are being properly compensated to focus on civic duties. You are right, THAT is atypical and unappreciated by our Council.

What articles? What comments? Who said anything about small towns? You really are having a conversation with someone imaginary.

Most of America is smaller cities and towns, but big city folk don't realize that.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

You already undermined your argument.

Are you having a conversation with someone imaginary? You claimed that legislators having outside work "is not typical in American civic affairs." I responded, with evidence, that it is not.

Yeah, every article + comment says that works well in small towns. NOT major cities, especially one that ahem aspire to the status and responsibilities of statehood and certainly not where, as you pointed out, you are being properly compensated to focus on civic duties. You are right, THAT is atypical and unappreciated by our Council.

What articles? What comments? Who said anything about small towns? You really are having a conversation with someone imaginary.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

You already undermined your argument.

Are you having a conversation with someone imaginary? You claimed that legislators having outside work "is not typical in American civic affairs." I responded, with evidence, that it is not.

Yeah, every article + comment says that works well in small towns. NOT major cities, especially one that ahem aspire to the status and responsibilities of statehood and certainly not where, as you pointed out, you are being properly compensated to focus on civic duties. You are right, THAT is atypical and unappreciated by our Council.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

You already undermined your argument.

Are you having a conversation with someone imaginary? You claimed that legislators having outside work "is not typical in American civic affairs." I responded, with evidence, that it is not.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

You already undermined your argument.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Reread what I wrote. There is nothing remotely unusual about legislators holding outside jobs.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we wanted a pool and are glad NIMBYs didn't totally kill the idea. I am glad Cheh and the city were strong enough to get the project approved and funded. I look forward to being at 37th and Quebec next summer in my pink bikini.

Well, the pool has water in it and will open in two weeks. I hope you weren’t counting on all that time to fit into your bikini.

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Anonymous wrote:How can you not blame her - it was her idea and her failure to supervise her own project

Do... do you think that Councilmembers should also be independent contractors?

Not PP, but I don't think they should be allowed to hold two jobs and draw two salaries, as Cheh and many other DC Council members do. This is not the norm in America. If Cheh had one job, she'd have more time to supervise.

She teaches the same Constitutional Law class that she has taught for 25 years. The syllabus likely hasn't changed in 20 years. And legally, the Council position is part time. So in reality, she isn't doing anything wrong and...yet she still has time to convene meetings on site at Hearst with DGS as she has throughout this process. I know, because I have been to a lot of them. Have you?

You are correct. She isn't doing anything wrong as the Council rules allow this. My understanding is this kind of double dipping is not typical in American civic affairs, and if the Council were not so self serving they would amend it. Any of your further justification is irrelevant. Are you a public servant? Yes? Then serve. Councilmembers draw a healthy salary

I don't know if you're grinding an axe or just profoundly ignorant, but having part-time legislators is pretty common in the United States: https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/full-and-part-time-legislatures.aspx

At least DC pays Councilmembers enough that they don't need to take on outside work to put food on the table (or don't need to be independently wealthy). Try being a legislator in Virginia without an outside job; state senators only make $18,000/year.

Re read what you wrote. They pay Councilmembers enough. get it?

Yes, we wanted a pool and are glad NIMBYs didn't totally kill the idea. I am glad Cheh and the city were strong enough to get the project approved and funded. I look forward to being at 37th and Quebec next summer in my pink bikini.

Gotta love the folks who credit Cheh for pushing the pool through over the objections of opponents but free her of any obligation related to its failures.